Jonah Goldberg Interview



Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg


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GLENN: Putting the radio back into Radio City, from Midtown Manhattan in Rockefeller Plaza, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. I'm glad you're here. Jonah Goldberg, who has been a frequent guest on the program, especially the last couple of weeks, friend of the program, he's the author of the number one New York Times Best Seller, Liberal Fascism, is on the phone with us. Jonah, I called you when I found out you were number one -- I think it was on Wednesday. You were hard at work. You were out in California -- to congratulate you on being a number one New York Times Best Seller. I couldn't be happier if it were happening to me. You so deserve a number one best seller on this particular book. Congratulations.

GOLDBERG: Glenn, I cannot begin to tell you how happy I am to you and your listeners. I was very happy with where I was on the list. But it was after the yeoman work that you did on your radio show and, of course, on the TV show that catapulted me to number one. So, you know, let me promise right here and now that I'm going to mow your lawn and wash your car for the foreseeable future. I am incredibly indebted to you and eternally grateful.

GLENN: Please, please, please. Jonah, let me ask you this.

GOLDBERG: Yes.

GLENN: Because you debuted at number 3, did you not?

GOLDBERG: I debuted at 10 and then the following week went up to 3 and then ran out of books.

GLENN: These publishers, they honestly do not believe that conservatives can read.

GOLDBERG: No, that's right. They were -- Random House was, in effect, getting out of this business, of conservative book publishing when this book skyrocketed up and I think it's sort of shaking up a lot of the assumptions of the publishing establishment that, you know, conservative books still sell, that people want to read this stuff and that it's not all sort of, you know, it's not all the Charlie Rose that read books.

GLENN: It just, isn't it amazing, Jonah. Do you live in Washington?

GOLDBERG: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Isn't it amazing when you come up to New York and you deal with the New York elite how they just, they just, it's almost like they talk to you as if you're, you know, autistic. You know, it's like, "Okay, Jonah, okay, well, we'll do that, we'll see. Can you make the words a little smaller? Because I don't know if people like you are going to read this. That's an awfully big word."

GOLDBERG: Well, I grew up on the upper west side of Manhattan and we were basically -- the Goldbergs, we were one of the very few politically conservative families around and we were sort of like Christians in ancient Rome. You know, you have to sort of, you hide in Riverside Park and you draw a little C in the dirt to see if the other guy's a conservative, too, and then you meet and try to talk about how you actually like Ronald Reagan.

GLENN: Right, right. Keep it down.

GOLDBERG: I grew up with all of that. I'm very used to it and it's never -- it never ceases to be frustrating.

GLENN: Yeah, and it never ceases to amaze me how -- let me rephrase this. Let me ask you this: I believe that -- I'm beginning to believe that these people in Washington, these Progressives are not this stupid when it comes to the economy. When people are celebrating and saying, oh, my gosh. You know, when Fannie Mae yesterday announces, what was it, a $3.65 billion loss in the fourth quarter alone, then says they have more losses on the way, they've got $700 billion in loans and they say 20% of them are already in default. So you know what's coming. How the liberals and the Progressives in Washington celebrate and say, oh, my gosh, you guys need to take on more debt. Jonah, talk me down from the tree where these guys -- tell me that they're this stupid. Tell me that they're not intentionally trying to take down our economy to be able to implement all of the things that they want to implement and make us into one giant socialist state.

GOLDBERG: Well, you know, I don't think that in their heart of hearts they think that's what they're doing but that doesn't mean that's not what they're doing.

GLENN: So then your case would be that they're that stupid.

GOLDBERG: Yeah, cognitive dissidence. It's not quite Leninist but, you know, Lenin has this phrase, the worse, the better. The worse things got, the more support they would get. And I think that sort of thought runs through a lot of the Democratic party these days, particularly because they want to make this a change election, they know if the economy gets worse, they'll do better and so they see nothing wrong with talking down the economy when a bad economy will hurt the Republicans, not them. And I think we see that in things that, you know, Harry Reid says all the time, we see that in the sort of glee with which the mainstream press is reporting that we're going to go into a recession, you know, which they know becomes in effect a self-fulfilling prophecy.

GLENN: Well, you know what, Jonah, do you watch or listen to my program very often? Because I am leading the charge on I think we are in deep, deep trouble economically.

GOLDBERG: No, I think -- I'm not saying that they're wrong necessarily but I don't think you were happy about it.

GLENN: Okay. No, yes, yes, you're right about that. I'm terrified out of my mind about it, yes. Okay. First of all, because I want to talk to you about something entirely different.

GOLDBERG: Sure.

GLENN: Another article you wrote, but I've got to ask you this, or at least maybe congratulate you on this. You are the worst person in the world with Keith Olbermann.

GOLDBERG: Again, yes, I think two more and I'm in eighth.

GLENN: What were the worst person in the world for?

GOLDBERG: It was a clip from your show which they took off context.

GLENN: What a surprise.

GOLDBERG: And Olbermann basically says I called FDR and Obama Hitler. That's not what I said. I mean, you were there. You know we were constantly defining our terms and saying what we were talking about and all of that. And then, you know, Olbermann says, "Goldberg still doesn't understand what fascism is, he still thinks it's like socialism, he doesn't even know that fascists were beating up socialists in the streets in Italy." And, you know, the response to that is, okay well, you know, Stalin beat up and murdered several million socialists. Does that mean he was antisocialist? Does that mean he was a fascist? Hitler killed a bunch of Nazis. Does that mean he's not a Nazi? I mean, it's this no-nothing kind of sheep Sophomoric scoring that you come to expect from someone like Olbermann.

GLENN: It's really disheartening to see that this guy, especially on debate nights, does well in the ratings.

GOLDBERG: Yeah.

GLENN: He is a growing force and, you know, God bless him. I mean, freedom of speech. You have a right to do that. It's disheartening because he is so full of opinion and his -- I mean, a lot of his stuff comes from blogs. It's not even good sources. And then when you see something like that. Even me, man, I'm a rodeo clown. I'd never run with a story like that.

GOLDBERG: Yeah. Beck I'd never run -- you can't take things out of context but this guy's a growing force and truly a propaganda machine.

GOLDBERG: What drives me crazy, I'm a free speech guy. I don't mind having lots of different voices on television, the media.

GLENN: Me, neither.

GOLDBERG: It's great you want to have the O'Reillys, the Hannitys, all of that is great. Opinion is great. I have no problem with it. My problem with Olbermann is that MSNBC cast him as a straight newsman whenever they want to and his fans in the quote/unquote main street press are hailing him as the new Edward R. Murrow.

GLENN: I know.

GOLDBERG: Whatever he is, he is not that. Certainly not what they think he had war R. Murrow was. He's not a straight newsman and he gets to have it both ways and, you know, the conservative talkers, they have to be very up front. You know, they're conservative. They're giving their opinion and it would never occur to, you know, the news networks to run them as anchors as well.

GLENN: There's no way anyone would run me as an anchor. There's no way -- you know what's amazing, there's no way that they would put Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly at Fox over to ask questions during a debate.

GOLDBERG: Yeah, they know there's a difference between Brit Hume and O'Reilly and I think they have no clue that there's a difference between Keith Olbermann and Tom Brokaw.

GLENN: It's a frightening trend. I want to talk to you, this goes to the point of your book, Liberal Fascism. Your point, correct me if I'm wrong, is liberals need to know their history. You need to know where you came from. You need to be able to see that there were real nefarious people involved. Conservatives need to do it as well. You need to look at history to know where you're going.

GOLDBERG: That's right. And, you know, conservatives understand that, you know, they've got skeletons in their closet. Liberals just seem to always think that right now at this very moment, they are the good guys, that they are not responsible or they don't have to worry about the fact that their predecessors also thought they were the good guys and did some really terrible things.

GLENN: Now, you have a new article out, and tell me the connection to Obama, to Weather Underground because it's kind of shifting sand here on the connection. It's not a real strong connection, right?

GOLDBERG: Right. Basically Obama, when he was coming up in Chicago politics, one of the people that you sort of have to go and kiss the ring of is this guy, Bill Ayers, who is a professor at the University of Illinois and sort of a local powerhouse in Progressive politics in Chicago and he's a former member of the Weather Underground. He was a bomb maker for them. He claims responsibility for sending bombs, attacking all sorts of government institutions. The Weather Underground declared war openly on the United States of America, has blood on its hands and Ayers --

GLENN: They called for -- they actually said -- now, was it this guy who said it or just the Weather Underground that said, kill your parents -- what was the quote? I read it in --

GOLDBERG: I don't have it right in front of me but it's kill your parents, kill your family, you know, attack the government, something like that, that's where it's at. And that has been widely attributed to Bill Ayers himself. And when he was asked by the New York Times on total irony on September 11th, 2001 about his work making bombs for the Weather Underground, they asked him if he had any remorse and he said, no, I wish I had done more. And, you know, that was the same day a couple of hours later that the Pentagon actually gets blown up, all these attacks. And, you know, can't be held accountable for the bad timing. But he was unapologetic, as far as I know remains unapologetic and there seems to be no cost for these former radicals to sort of reenter polite liberal society and be treated with respect and deference and, you know, imagine -- I mean, imagine if some guy was even remotely connected to bombing a church during the civil rights, you know, era.

GLENN: But let's just say a bomb maker, a bomb maker.

GOLDBERG: Yeah. For the right there is never any forgiveness, and I'm not saying there should be any forgiveness for a guy who has anything to do with blowing up a church. But my point is that there is this assumption that anyone too far to the right is permanently illegitimate but anyone who's too far to the left, well, you know, they were young, they were passionate, they cared too much and that it's okay to sort of have this segue. And academia and the universities are full of these people, these former radicals, Weather Underground, FDS, Black Panthers, fan of the Black Panthers. And the Black Panthers who Hillary Clinton was a fan of, the liberal elites these days were probably fans of in their youth. They were an openly fascistic terrorist organization, declared terror on the United States in the name of racial superiority, who ambushed cops and shot them in cold blood in the back, who murdered, you know, people willy-nilly, and yet we have Hollywood making pro Black Panther movies, Tom Wolfe writes about the radical sheep of the Black Panthers who go to a cocktail party on the upper west side of Manhattan. I mean, imagine having a cocktail party for Klansmen. I mean, there is an enormous double standard in the culture that the further you move to the left, you may be misguided or wrong but you are never evil, you are never bad and the further you move to the right, the closer you get to pure evil.

GLENN: You know, you were talking about, imagine a cocktail party for Klansmen. I think they are fundraisers for Robert Byrd. I think that's what they're called now. Jonah, congratulations again on the book Liberal Fascism, number one New York Times Best Seller. Nobody deserves it more than you do. No book more importantly deserve it more than that and I encourage anybody who hasn't picked this book up yet to please pick it up. It is number one on the New York Times.

I know you're a conservative. So it's hard for you to read other than "Sam I Am."

GOLDBERG: Well, maybe we'll get some hand puppets and we'll --

GLENN: We'll act it out for them, that's great. Jonah, thank you very much. Congratulations.

GOLDBERG: You're the man.

GLENN: Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism. I have to tell you, the best thing about this audience and thank you so much for being a member of it, is that you are curious, that you are -- you are looking for answers. You are not just looking for the typical answer, that you are engaged on trying to figure things out. You know, I'm so encouraged to hear from listeners from both sides of the aisle that listen to this program and say, "You know what, Glenn, I mean, I used to believe this; I don't think I believe this anymore. I think I'm -- I can't be a Republican. I don't know what conservatives even stand for anymore because they're so tied to the Republican party. I don't know, you know, about liberals, what do they stand for anymore. They've just become Democrats, they're just selling their soul to the devil." Find out the truth. Find out what's really going on. Find out what you really believe in. And I've got to tell you, that is this audience.

William "Bill" Kelly is 95-year-old World War II veteran from Oregon. He lived through the Great Depression.
He served in the South Pacific during World War II. And now he has just fought the coronavirus -- and won.

Bill joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Thursday to share his experience and a hopeful message about why the younger generations can overcome this crisis.

"I want to tell the people, it wasn't pleasant, but on the other hand, you know, if you do what you're supposed to do, and you have some loved ones around you, and do a lot of praying, why, you'll come through okay. We [American's] have been through a lot. We've been through Pearl Harbor. We've been through the Great Depression, and who knows what else. We're tough. We'll get through it. Hang in there," Bill said.

"You know, it's just -- it's in our American blood," he added. "We're that type of people. We take care of each other, and we are not going to break down. We're going to make it through, every time. Every time."

"There are people that don't think we are those people anymore. That it was the greatest generation -- your generation -- that did it, but now we're not the same people. Do you agree with that? Glenn asked.

"No," asserted Bill. "And the reason I say that is because I remember when I was a young kid, you know, and people, the older people, said 'all those young kids are soft' ... but when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor -- sneak attack, you know -- it's surprising how those so-called goofy kids turned into mighty fine fighting people. And they're very loyal. I have lots of faith in them ... no, I don't have any problems with this new generation. They'll take care of us. We're Americans."

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Glenn gives the latest coronavirus numbers, updating YOU on everything needed to know as Americans and officials monitor China's new COVID-19 virus:

Daily Stats as of 5:30 AM CT (from John's Hopkins)

  • Total Confirmed Cases Worldwide: 950,638 (up from 872,891 Yesterday)
  • Total Deaths Worldwide: 48,289 (up from 43,271 Yesterday)
  • Total Confirmed Recovered Worldwide: 202,631 (up from 184,588 Yesterday)
  • 5% of Active Cases are considered serious (requiring hospitalization) Steady from 5% Yesterday, but down from 19% high back in February
  • Note that 12% of US Confirmed Cases require Hospitalization, roughly on par with Italy at 12% requiring hospitalization
  • US has 215,344 Confirmed Cases and 5,112 Deaths, up from 188,592 cases and 4,056 deaths yesterday
  • COVID-19 is now the 3rd leading cause of death in the US, behind Heart Disease and Cancer (based on daily fatalities per 1,000 people)
  • The United States of America now leads the world in total confirmed cases, with 115,000 more cases than Italy (although Italy leads the world in Deaths with 13,155 officially dead)
  • US is 25th in Total Confirmed Cases per 1 Million Population, with 651 cases per 1 Million people. Spain has 2,583 Cases per 1 Million people.
  • US is 23rd in Total Confirmed Dead per 1 Million Population, with 15 Dead per 1 Million citizens. Italy has 218 Dead per 1 Million.
  • US has 5,112 Dead vs 8,878 Recovered and 5,075 in Critical Condition
  • The US currently has 201,354 Active Cases of COVID-19, with still less than 1% of the total US population tested.
  • 17% of Americans who have been tested have been diagnosed with COVID-19
COVID-19 Now Killing Victims Who Don't Have COVID-19 https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/coronavirus-nyc-emts-stop-taking-cardiac-arrest-patients-to-hospitals/
  • EMTs in New York have been given a directive not to transport heart-attack victims to hospitals if they cannot be revived at the scene.
  • Prior cardiac arrest victims would have been transported to hospitals for further life-saving procedures, but with hospitals being overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, heart attack victims are solely in the hands of local EMTs. If EMTs cannot restore a pulse at the scene, victims are to be left there to die.
  • "Artificial ventilation and/or compressions must not be delayed," the memo states, adding that chest "compressions must begin as soon as it is determined the patient does not have a pulse."
  • But the guidelines change if the patient cannot be revived before arriving at a hospital.
  • "In the event a resuscitation is terminated, and the body is in public view, the body can be left in the custody of the NYPD."
China Lied, People Died Trending on Social Media https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says
  • US Intelligence Services has concluded what the Internet has known since January: The Chinese Communist Party lied about total infected and total deaths due to Coronavirus.
  • Citing a report provided to the White House last week, officials confirmed that US Intelligence concludes 'gross' underreporting of total cases and total deaths, especially from Hubei Province.
  • Many have speculated that numbers coming out of China, Iran, North Korea, Russia and other totalitarian countries have been dramatically underreported, by as much as a factor of 10 according to official British Intelligence reports.
  • The early misrepresentation of data by the CCP may have lead some Western Politicians and epidemiologists to underestimate the seriousness of COVID-19 and delayed response in Italy, Spain, the UK and the US.
  • Though why anybody would have believed anything the Chinese Communist Party had to say remains an open question...
Italy's Death Toll Far Higher Than Reported https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported/ar-BB122vvc
  • In the town of Coccaglio, an hour's drive east of here, the local nursing home lost over a third of its residents in March. None of the 24 people who died there were tested for the new coronavirus. Nor were the 38 people who died in another nursing home in the nearby town of Lodi.
  • These aren't isolated incidents. Italy's official death toll from the virus stands at 13,155, the most of any country in the world. But that number tells only part of the story because many people who die from the virus don't make it to the hospital and are never tested, therefore they aren't included in official numbers.
  • "They were all sick, they all had flu-like symptoms and difficulty breathing," stated a nurse from one of the nursing homes. "We had no ambulance to get them to Milan."
  • In the areas worst hit by the pandemic, Italy is undercounting thousands of deaths caused by the virus, a Wall Street Journal analysis shows, indicating that the pandemic's human toll may end up being much greater, and infections far more widespread, than official data indicate.
  • As stretched and sometimes overwhelmed hospitals fight to save their patients, many other people die unseen and uncounted, including elderly people in out-of-the-way locations.
  • In addition, the health-care crisis can lead to a surge of deaths from other causes that would normally be treatable.
  • "There are many more dead from the virus than are officially declared... People died and they were never tested because time and resources are limited," Eugenio Fossati, deputy mayor of Coccaglio, says of deaths caused by the virus.
More Numbers Hard to Trust as Bodies Left On The Streets in Ecuador https://www.scmp.com/news/world/americas/article/3078077/coronavirus-bodies-are-being-left-streets-ecuador
  • Coronavirus: bodies are being left on the streets in Ecuador.
  • 'They fall in front of hospitals or in back street alleys, or in small villages…no one wants to recover them,' says the mayor of Ecuador's largest city.
  • The army is placing unclaimed bodies in refrigerated cargo containers at the port while authorities pursue plans for a new cemetery.
  • The corpses have been overwhelming Guayaquil, a port city of 2.8 million at the epicenter of the coronavirus crisis in Ecuador.
  • Over the last few days, several were wrapped in plastic and left on the streets. Others have lain unclaimed in hospitals and clinics that have been overwhelmed by infections. The city morgue is full.
  • The majority of the dead are believed to be victims of the virus, but nobody can say for sure how many. There has been little testing.
  • The country has confirmed 2,700 infections and 93 deaths - 60 of them in Guayaquil and its immediate surroundings. But municipal officials there said they have recovered at least 400 bodies in the last 3 days.
  • Mayor Cynthia Viteri, who announced that she has also tested positive for the virus, said the national government should be responsible for collecting the corpses.
  • "They're leaving them in the villages, they are stacked in front of hospitals," she said in a Twitter video message to residents late last week.
  • Many local villages in Ecuador are simply burying the dead in unmarked graves, which will make official counting of COVID-19 victims impossible in the weeks ahead.
50% of Viral Spread Comes from People With No Symptoms https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/health/us-coronavirus-updates-wednesday/index.html
  • Researchers in Iceland have confirmed earlier reports from Hong Kong that a significant amount of viral spread is caused by carriers who have no symptoms.
  • In the US, Doctors at the CDC have confirmed asymptomatic spread, but estimate a number of about 25%.
  • If true, then the case for all persons to wear masks, even those who don't have symptoms, becomes much stronger.
  • To prevent further spread, the top infectious disease expert in the US says health officials are reconsidering guidance on face masks.
  • Dr. Anthony Fauci said he would "lean towards" recommending that the general public wear face masks "if we do not have the problem of taking away masks from the health care workers who need them. The public can stay home to avoid infection, but health care workers cannot," he said.
  • "We're not there yet, but I think we're close to coming to some determination," Fauci said.
Ship vs Train... Ship Wins https://abc7.com/usns-mercy-coronavirus-train-crash-derailment/6069395/
  • A Locomotive Engineer in Los Angeles has been charged with 1 Count of "Train Wrecking", a Class A Felony under Federal Law, after purposely derailing his freight train while attempting to sink the US Hospital ship Mercy.
  • Eduardo Moreno, 44, intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"
  • Moreno admitted to crashing the train intentionally but said he did not plan it out in advance. It is believed that he acted alone.
  • He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."
  • Officials say video from inside the train's cab shows Moreno holding a lighted flare during the incident.
Biggest Issue With COVID-19 in Malaysia: Nagging Wives https://www.npr.org/2020/04/01/825051317/dont-nag-your-husband-during-lock-down-malaysias-government-advises-women
  • Malaysia has the largest number of COVID-19 cases in Southeast Asia with more than 2,900 and counting.
  • This week, Malaysia's government also had a serious public relations issue after an ill-conceived plan went online.
  • Malaysia's Ministry for Women, Family and Community Development issued a series of online posters on Facebook and Instagram with the hashtag #WomenPreventCOVID19. It advised the nation's women to help with the country's partial lockdown by not nagging their husbands.
  • The ministry also advised women to refrain from being "sarcastic" if they asked for help with household chores.
  • Additionally, the Ministry urged women working from home to dress up and wear makeup.
  • After some negative response on social media, the public service messages have been removed from the Ministry's Facebook page.

MyPillow inventor and CEO Mike Lindell was lambasted by the left and mainstream media after he announced at a White House press briefing on Monday that his company will start making tens of thousands of masks to fight against the spread of coronavirus. Lindell also thanked God for President Donald Trump and encouraged Americans to turn back to God in this time of crisis.

Read the details here.

Whether it was his support for President Trump or strong religious beliefs, no one has lit up the media quite like Mike Lindell. He joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Monday to talk about the president, the 'horrible, crazy media' and how he's not afraid to keep speaking out about his faith.

"I think people are going to quit being brainwashed by this horrible, crazy media -- they know who they are -- and the public is going to see the amazing job that our president is doing," Lindell said. "I've done interview after interview today. I'm taking all the bad ones on -- I think I'm going on 'The View' tomorrow I love it. I want to go right into the hurricane. Finally, I get to speak out for Jesus like I want to."

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News broke that German Finance Minister Thomas Schaefer reportedly committed suicide on Saturday due to the stress from the economic climate during the coronavirus crisis. Unfortunately, this headline may become more common place. Concerns are far beyond those of just hand washing, finding toilet paper and the latest White House briefings. There may be a secondary crisis growing — mental health and suicide.

Messages fill my inbox daily from parents worried about their teens showing signs of risk of suicidal ideation. Spouses concerned about the toil recent layoffs will have on their partners. Elderly family members are also vulnerable.

Last week, news a father of three dying by suicide made me want to scream to the world – "LISTEN!" We are losing too many of our human family. And I am afraid with COVID-19 on the scene, we are going to lose more than ever.

During the past six years — following the suicide of my 40-year-old sister — my mission has been to bring awareness and help prevent suicide. Everyone is exposed to suicide. You either struggle with depression/anxiety, you love someone that struggles, or like me, you have already lost someone to suicide. That is literally everyone on the planet. Bigger numbers than even the virus.

Little known fact. Springtime is a peak season for suicides. Even compared to the holidays.

Little known fact. Springtime is a peak season for suicides. Even compared to the holidays.

So, pile on the constant stream of news, stats about COVID-19 deaths and a lock down on social distancing, even the most emotionally skilled individual may be drowning in vulnerability and at risk.

What can be done?

Social distancing, not isolation

Even though we are standing 6ft apart in the grocery stores, and no longer going to church together, humans need connection to survive.

Free communication apps like Marco Polo are a great way to not hide behind a text. Whether it is on video chat or old fashion letter writing, making connection a priority is crucial for our survival.

Emotional check-in

The new normal seems to be changing by the hour. It is hard to keep up, recalibrating with all the change. Just like the importance of taking temperature to check for virus symptoms, we need to monitor our emotional temp. Try the one word check-in, at dinner time, simply by asking, "How am I feeling today?" It can be a great barometer.

Naming our feelings keep them tamed.

It's Ok to not be Ok

It is crucial to our survival to frame this crisis with a mental health back drop. Suicide, depression and anxiety concerns should be at the top of the STAY HOME and STAY SAFE list. If you find yourself feeling helpless or having thoughts of self-harm, please reach out for additional support. Therapists are using online formats to serve their clients. Call your doctor or one of the many 1-800 numbers.

No one is an extra, disposable member of our human family.

If you are reading this and struggling. Please remember, we will never be better without you. No one is an extra, disposable member of our human family. We will make it thru this COVID-19 crisis stronger and closer than before. No longer will we take hugging our neighbor for granted.

And maybe, just maybe we will someday find the vaccine that stops suicide virus from spreading.

Ganel-Lyn is a public speaker, media personality & author