GLENN: All right. Now there's a couple of other things that are going on. John Coleman, you know him. He's the guy who started the Weather Channel. He's been on with us several times before. He's great. I love him because, look, he's just a normal guy. He started the Weather Channel. He was just, you know, a teeny weather guy for years and years. He's a climatologist, and he's listening to stuff and he just pops a blood vessel and says, "I can't take it anymore." Well, the good news today is that John Coleman is suing -- John, are you suing Al Gore yourself?
COLEMAN: I'm not launching any lawsuits but I'm asking the question that if Al Gore knows that CO2 forcing, that is, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from our fossil fuels, is not causing global warming, isn't he committing financial fraud when he sells carbon credits to people to offset their use of fossil fuels and putting carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? I've asked the question and believe me, a lot of people were really interested in that question. And I --
GLENN: But Al Gore doesn't ever answer any questions.
COLEMAN: Well, he is going to have to answer this one because I have found that I am not alone and that's the wonderful thing that's going on here in New York is that 500 of us from all over the world who are climate change skeptics are together for a conference for the first time and I'm discovering that there are numerous people in this group who are working on just that concept of getting this carbon credits scam into court. And think what that would mean if Al Gore scientists and our skeptical scientists are to go into a court, their documentations, you know, had to meet the legal requirements, they had to take the witness stand. Now we would really get down to the facts.
GLENN: John, may I --
COLEMAN: That's just great.
GLENN: John, I'm sorry that I missed you yesterday. In fact, Stu and I are going over for part of the conference here in a couple of hours because we're going to take a break before we do the live television show tonight at 7:00 to 9:00 but I'm sorry I missed you. But let me ask you this question. I think a lot of these scientists that I have met at the global warming centers conference if you will, or skeptics, I think a lot of them are living in a fairy, in some sort of fairy village because they actually think that this can be stopped at this point. I really don't think, with Joe -- I mean, with John McCain, with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama all talking about caps in trades, all talking about, you know, making sure that they start paying homage to the UN on global climate control, all of them are talking about extra fines and paying for every bit of CO2. This is a giant income tax scheme or tax scheme. That's all it is. How do you think it's going to be stopped in time, especially after the election with a progressive congress and all three candidates promising they will do it? This will be the first thing on their agenda.
COLEMAN: I understand exactly what you're saying, Glenn, and I have been very reticent to predict that we would have any success prior to this conference, but I see at this conference a real unity and I see the sign of this coming aboard. Now, scientists aboard is one thing. The media aboard is another. And as you know, the vast majority of the media has totally ignored us. You have been one of the wonderful exceptions and there are a few others but for the most part the mainstream media has totally ignored us and our cause, but I think we are beginning, just beginning to penetrate and that's the real key. The politicians are going to follow public opinion, and public opinion is going to be set by the media and we have to crack open the media first.
GLENN: I don't -- I'm telling you, John, I don't think -- I mean, I just think -- here, I heard a prediction from Al Gore. Stu, when was this? About a year ago, where he said 2009 is going to be our year. He knew that it was going -- that we were going to have the progressive congress that we're going to have, he knew, you know, that most likely at the time it was going to be Hillary Clinton who would have been, you know, somebody who put you through. But now we've got people on each side of Hillary Clinton. All of them are going to do the same thing. We're quickly running out of time. And I asked the audience, here we are broadcasting all across America. There is a major global warming conference happening here in New York City, with some of the top scientific minds in the country. And also I'm going to be real honest with you, also a couple of crackpots but I mean, that's the way -- it's a conference. You can come and I mean, I've been to places where you're like, oh, boy. If you've never been to a trade convention, that's what this is. And you're like, oh, boy, avoid this guy like the plague. But some of the greatest scientific minds that are skeptics on global warming are here today. It is a major event. The first of its kind, if I'm not mistaken. And has anybody in the country seen coverage on this on any of the networks besides on my program, in any kind of halfway fair sort of fashion?
COLEMAN: Well, you are exactly right. I've been watching the media here because we came to New York City --
GLENN: Because it's media.
COLEMAN: Because this is where the media, national media headquarters is. And the major networks are just down the street from this hotel. Believe me they haven't walked up the street to see us.
GLENN: One of them is directly across the street.
COLEMAN: It is a huge problem, Glenn, but don't give up. Don't give up.
GLENN: No, I'm not -- look, look. John, I'm not --
COLEMAN: I appreciate everything you're saying, but this week Al Gore had to finally say, had to acknowledge that we just had the coldest year in modern history in the world. For over 12 months the temperature worldwide dropped by an average of 1 degree. Everything it had gained over the last 100 it gave up this year.
GLENN: Okay. Now John --
COLEMAN: And Al Gore had to admit that. We are making progress.
GLENN: I want to ask you this because you are a climatologist or meteorologist?
COLEMAN: I'm a meteorologist.
GLENN: You are a meteorologist. One year does not a trend make but we're now approaching a 10-year cycle where, if I'm not mistaken, the temperature has either stayed the same or gone down. Which is it? Is it gone down, the temperature is starting to fall now?
COLEMAN: There has been no significant increase now in eight years.
GLENN: In eight years? Okay. How many is, how many years has to pass --
COLEMAN: Think about this. If we have runaway global warming as the alarmists have told us, if CO2 has continued to build in the atmosphere through this whole time, we're burning our fossil fuel, CO2 is burning up in the atmosphere. If it were a pollutant, which it is not, if it were the driving force of global warming, which it is not, our temperatures would be climbing and instead they're cooling. We're seeing steadier cooling and their case is falling apart. And we now have almost 500 scientists who have spoken out in the last year calling this global warming a scam. It's coming.
GLENN: You know, I have to tell you, John, I've been so impressed with these guys that I have met because it's not just a science to them. It is not -- I mean, a lot of them are saying the good name of science is --
COLEMAN: Let me tell you the great hurricane forecaster who we always hear forecasting the hurricanes from the University of Colorado made the most marvelous speech at our breakfast this morning. The president of the Czech Republic made an incredibly good speech and totally debunked global warming. These are meaningful important people. How can the media ignore us? How much longer can it ignore us?
GLENN: John Coleman, he is the founder of the Weather Channel and one of the chief guys who just can't take it anymore. God bless you, John. Keep up the fight, my friend.
COLEMAN: I'm madder than hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!