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The Last Patriot


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GLENN: One of my good friends is Brad Thor. Brad and I have known each other now I think for a couple of years and I started reading his latest book which isn't even out. Let me just bring him on because I just want to have this conversation with him. You're laughing, man.

THOR: It's good to talk to you, Glenn.

GLENN: You're out of your mind. Brad, is it -- first of all, is it true that there are only three copies of this book in existence now, only three galleys were made, these are uncorrected proofs and I have all three, that me and my staff have the three?

THOR: It's actually, we just made a fourth one because your tour manager Rich thanked me for one last night. I said okay, we would make one more and only one more for him.

GLENN: Okay. There is a reason -- I'm guessing, I mean, there are very few galleys that are made of books in the first place. In case you don't know what a galley is, before a book goes to print, they will make galleys and sometimes it's for reviews and everything else but, you know, a lot of times it's just for everybody to see what it's going to look like in print, et cetera, et cetera. This one, I assume that you are only putting three or now four copies out there is because you know that this is dynamite.

THOR: You know, it's got -- it definitely has that potential. People who I worked with on this book told me, they said, Brad, you're a great thriller writer, we know you do fiction, but they said this stuff is, it's nitroglycerin, it's dynamite, it's so controversial.

GLENN: Brad, I want to ask you a question and I mean this in all seriousness as a friend.

THOR: Sure.

GLENN: Do you remember the last time you were in New York and we were together?

THOR: Yes.

GLENN: Do you remember you -- and I don't want to get into any specifics. Do you remember that you and I, you had some questions for me and I said, let's take a walk.

THOR: I remember the walk and the talk, yes.

GLENN: Okay. Do you remember what I said to you about halfway through when I stopped and looked at you and said, you have to decide what you're willing to die for. Do you remember that?

THOR: Yes, I do.

GLENN: You were asking me questions about how -- you know, what I believe in certain things and what was going on and what my feeling was, et cetera, et cetera on how to deal with things.

THOR: Correct.

GLENN: I just went on a book tour and I will not, nor can I, I'm not allowed to, tell you the precautions that I had to take to go onto a book tour. I tell you, Brad, right now that when I had that talk with you a year ago, I thought I knew I was prepared to die. It wasn't until Christmas about three days before that I really, truly realized that I was prepared to die for what I believe in because of my book tour. There were so many death threats on me at that time and we had to take so many precautions that nobody knows about that I, in that month of December, had to come to grips with the fact that I may die and be shot and gunned down in the streets. It is not a pleasant -- it's easy for me to say a year ago to you, know what you're prepared to die for.

THOR: True.

GLENN: It's another when you are actually in that situation. Brad, I've only read three chapters. Last night I read the first three chapters with my mouth open and thought to myself, my friend Brad may lose his life for a fiction book. Have you and your wife had that talk?

THOR: We have. We have, and I've had the talk with, as you mentioned before I came on, some of my very well connected friends who are in law enforcement, who specialize in security for congress, the President, so on and so forth. Glenn, at the end of the day I think all that's necessary, everything -- we hear this phrase all the time but it's true. All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on just a second. Again I haven't gotten to the end of the book. I haven't even gotten to the meat of what I think is coming but I mean, do you at this point -- because how far away is this book from being published?

THOR: It's called The Last Patriot and it comes out July 1st.

GLENN: Are you willing to discuss changing parts of this? I mean, here's -- I don't even know what you have in here but I don't believe that what the main story spins on -- may I discuss what little I know?

THOR: You can completely discuss what the book's about, that's correct.

GLENN: Okay. It is my impression that from the first page that there has been a discovery that the Qur'an is bogus and Mohammed is bogus, or Mohammed knew that it was bogus from the beginning. Is that the direction you're going?

THOR: In a nutshell the book is that Mohammed had -- the Qur'an is Mohammed's revelations and they are ordered not in chronological order in the Qur'an but -- and this is true. They are ordered from longest to shortest. And the problem with the Qur'an is that we've got peaceful verses throughout but the more violent verses, in particular number 9, the most violent verse in the Qur'an came from very much toward the end of Mohammed's life. It's one of the last kind of commandments to his followers and therefore a lot of the radical Islamists use it to justify violence against non-Muslims. So I said with this -- because Mohammed was assassinated. That's another true fact. I said what if Mohammed had one last revelation and his own companion, people within his closest cadre assassinated him to keep that final revelation quiet. That's the basis of the book: What if this revelation existed and what if it could completely alter the face of Islam if it became brought into the public eye.

GLENN: Now in chapter, is it one or two, the guy who is looking and trying to piece all of this together because these documents had been found, finally piece these things together after they had been kept quiet for so long. He's assassinated but he's assassinated by an organization called FAIR that is an Islamic council here in America that is funded by the Saudi Arabians that is a front organization for terror that has connections into the highest levels of government and network television and everything else and they're involved in assassinating these people. Do I have that right?

THOR: Right, in my book I have a fictitious organization called the foundation on American Islamic relations or their acronym that they're better known by is FAIR, correct. The book is fiction, Glenn.

GLENN: No, I know that. Stu, hang on just a second. Hey, Stu?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: How do we get onto Tradesports and just put odds that Brad Thor is dead by the end of the year.

STU: Oh, man. The odds would be pretty high on that one. Brad, man, we love you. We're very scared for you.

GLENN: Here's the deal. Brad, Brad, again I've only read three chapters. This is going to be a number one best seller.

THOR: From your lips to my ears, Glenn, that's terrific. I want people to learn from this book, too. It's fiction. It's a thriller. It's a great --

GLENN: Did you miss the whole cartoon thing? I'm speaking to you as a friend. Did you miss the whole car -- do you think the guy who's still living in hiding that is trying to sell the cartoon on the auction market right now but nobody will pick up the auction market and he's like, you know what, "I've risked my life for this; I'd like to make some money off of this cartoon," do you think maybe he at any time said, guys, it's a cartoon!

THOR: You know what, Glenn? I think that when people read this book and I think I'm going to have Muslims and non-Muslim readers alike, I think that people are going to find this book fascinating. You know, if there's a radical -- listen. If the enemy we face today is not Islam, it's the Islamists. They are trying to tear this country apart from within. Groups like -- groups like FEAR and other groups. I think it's important that this information get out there and be told to people in a story like mine so they can learn about the threat that this nation faces.

GLENN: Hold on. I'm just checking right now. I'm just, Amazon, is it listed yet? Can I buy a copy on Amazon.com?

THOR: You can preorder it on Amazon.com. The book comes out July 1st.

GLENN: Here's why I'm doing it because I think the first edition of a book where the author was assassinated is going to be worth some money. You laugh. I'm not kidding. Do you remember the talk we had a year ago?

THOR: Glenn, it's been in the back of my mind ever since.

GLENN: Put it to the front of your mind, Brad. Put it to the front of your mind. Let me ask you this. Let me rephrase the question because I told you in that talk there are things that I am willing to say; there are things I am not willing to say. I quoted Immanuel Kant, that there are things that I believe that I shall never say but I shall never say the things I do not believe. Do you remember?

THOR: Yes.

GLENN: Okay. That is a mantra of mine in today's world. You have to decide what you're willing to die for.

Now, what is the principle in this book? And I respect you if you say it's freedom of speech; I have the right, then I respect you but what is it in this book you are willing to die for?

THOR: Listen. I don't want to die for -- I definitely don't want to die for a book but at the end of the day if we keep backing off -- and that's what I said. We are experiencing Sharia inch by inch every time we cower and refuse to publish a book or something like that.

GLENN: I know.

THOR: We extend more ground to the Islamists, not to Islam. I have a lot of Muslim friends. I just got back from Afghanistan, spent my time with some of the most incredible people in the world who happen to be Muslim. The last thing I would want to do is offend them with something I'm doing. I don't think mainstream Muslims are going to find this book offensive.

GLENN: It's not the mainstream Muslims you are talking about.

THOR: It's the nut jobs, the Qur'animals as I like to call them. And you know what, let them be insulted. I do not care. My fellow countrymen need to know about the threat from these people.

GLENN: Okay. Brad, that is totally cool. I just want to say to you as your friend.

THOR: Nice knowing you, thanks, I got the message.

GLENN: No, no, no. No, listen. Again I go back to the conversation. You and I both know we are in the fight for our life. I think the title of the book The Last Patriot is so appropriate. I told you at the time there are people in the media that know, that are unwilling to say anything. I told you as soon as others will say the things that I'm willing to say, I'm done, man. I've done my service. But until that happens, I'm in. So I get it. I understand that you do the things and you take the risks. You take calculated risks and you tell the truth as you believe it but I just wanted to make sure, I wanted to make sure you didn't take this lightly, you hadn't forgotten that you don't take this lightly. I can't tell you, Brad. You don't know until you've lived it. Have you really, truly thought it through.

THOR: We're actually having a security meeting on Friday.

GLENN: That's not what I mean. I'm not talking about a security meeting. My wife and I got down on our knees and we prayed for over a week on this and we talked about it. Have you and your wife prayed about it, thought about it. I don't even know if you are a praying person.

THOR: No, we are. We are. We have and we've talked about it and we've thought about it. You know, it might come down to the fact that in this country if it does, I will be very disappointed that we have to go through a radical lifestyle change. I mean, look at Geert Wilders over in the Netherlands. His film hasn't even aired yet and people are burning the Dutch flag, burning the American flag and going nuts.

GLENN: Brad, wait until the film comes out. Do you remember the last filmmaker? He was stabbed in the chest with a list of people that they were going to kill next. And I know you don't cower and I know you have a right and it's a little thing called the freedom of speech. But wait until this guy's film comes out. What is it? In the next 30 days?

THOR: Maybe even shorter than that.

GLENN: When that happens, do you think what's happening in the Sudan right now with the protests yet again on the stupid cartoon are unrelated to that film?

THOR: Oh, they are completely related.

GLENN: They are completely related. They are setting it up again for more riots, more violence in Europe. Just, I just want to make sure that you, as your friend that you and your wife have decided what you're willing to die for.

THOR: We are --

GLENN: I've said that to my family members who are in the Service and have gone overseas and have lined up to join our military. Do you know what you are possibly going to die for? If they say yes, I'm in it, I've thought about it, I am all for ya.

THOR: We are prepared. We've had this discussion extensively.

GLENN: Okay. I recommend that you buy this book online now. Get the first edition. You don't want the second or third edition. You want the first edition. I've only read three chapters of it, Brad. I was up late last night but I had to call you first thing this morning and talk to you about it. God bless you, brother.

THOR: Thank you, Glenn.

GLENN: I can't wait to see how it ends. I mean the book. Thank you very much, Brad. I love you, man.

THOR: You, too. Bye-bye.

Many members of the far-left already are calling for a ‘Night of Rage’ after the Supreme Court’s 6-3 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and the White House has been discussing plans to defy the ruling too. In fact, one idea floated by Biden Administration officials, according to the New York Times, includes providing abortions on military bases. So, will America experience another summer of riots? Are YOUR taxpayer dollars at risk? And what does this mean for deep-blue states? Josh Hammer, legal expert and opinion editor for Newsweek, joins Glenn to discuss what may come next...

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Josh Hammer, he's the opinion editor of Newsweek. He's the host of the Josh Hammer show. He is really quite brilliant. One of the leading minds in the conservative movement, I think. Josh Hammer joins us now.

To tell us, what did you find in this decision?

JOSH: Glenn, great to be back with you, on such a momentous, and really such an emotional day, honestly. So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently. Funny enough, I was in the middle of getting a guest lecture from an organization on the advisory board as to when it drops. So I barely had any time to kind of skim through, let alone guess the concerning dissenting opinions. But it looks like this looks very similar, to the draft opinion that was leaked, by the Politico story, a month and a half ago, in early May. And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft opinion, would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault. Now knows that our prayers were answered, Glenn. That's really my takeaway right now.

This looks a lot like the leaked opinion. Justice Thomas and Justice Kavanaugh have some reconcurring opinions.

But unbelievable. And really just holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second hear. Just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause. And I tweeted this out earlier. We need to just be grateful for our half century of pro-life activist forbearers. You know, this -- Glenn, this issue could have gone away after 1973. That was a long time ago. 1973. I mean, this issue could have just gone away. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activist. Political activist. And, of course, yes. Legal activist. Who fought day in and day out, that makes sure this great injustice stayed front and center of our national, political conscience. And in many days, the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice. But in many ways, it's also a new beginning for the pro-life fight as well, interestingly.

STU: How do you mean a new beginning for the fight? I just it's going to turn, I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it. Is that -- is that what you're meaning by this?

JOSH: Well, look, for a half century now, Roe vs. Wade, and its project any, specifically, the Planned Parenthood versus Casey case of 1992.

They took away from the states obviously. They arrogated authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion.

It happened to be a profoundly immoral view. So these -- the fight now shifts to the states. And the pro-life activists. And all the 50 states. Especially, obviously in red states. Purple states. I mean, admittedly some blue states like New York and California, probably won't be able to touch them there.

But we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state Capitols for every red, purplish, probably even light blue state, to make sure we fight for successful, cogent, and morally consistent pro-life legislation. The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas. Right where you are now, Glenn. They have been leading on this actually. Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law, a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma. A few weeks ago. Maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception. And there are some -- you know, obviously, likable the mother. So forth. But we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now, at the state level. But to your point, I do fear that the blue states will only double down in their radicalism. Unfortunately within that will only lead to an ever greater divide, in our country, that we have today. But obviously, at the end of the day. We're going to save at the end of the day, millions and millions of unborn children. We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel prices.

I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species. I don't know how to say it other than that.

GLENN: I will tell you, I saw the stat, that I think it was last year or the year before. 20 percent of all pregnancies ended in abortion. 20 percent.

JOSH: Wow.

GLENN: That is -- that is a shocking number. And we do have our -- our work cut out for us. Because I -- I think that these states are going to double down. But I think, you know -- God doesn't waste anything. You know, there is no waste with God. Even the -- even the worst things that could possibly happen, turn out to be something good. You know what I mean? You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen.

And I think that evil is going to fully come unmasked. I'm telling you, Josh. I don't know how you feel about this. I think this could be the day of America's Kristallnacht. I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today. They're calling for a night of rage around the country. I think evil is going to show itself. And that will scare the American people, hopefully.

JOSH: You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually. Because I've been bracing for a new kind of George Floyd summer of love, happening this summer. Coming to a city or suburb near you. Unfortunately, myself. Look, I live in Florida. I know, Glenn, you live in Texas. It is in moments like this, where I do think that where you live matters. And who your mayor is. Who your governor is, matters.

Because law and order and rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue. It is to a limited extent. June 2020, Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time.

I happen to agree with it. Where he said, quote, unquote, send in the troops. And there is some federal legislation from the reconstruction era that would justify that.

But most kind of quelling and quashing of anarchy does happen. Constitutionally speaking, at the state and local level. So at a moment like this, where I fear that you're probably not wrong. I take some solace. That Governor DeSantis is my governor. I think Texans should take some solace, that they are represented by -- by a Republican governor. The legislature there as well. So I -- I fear that you are right. I pray obviously, that no one -- it's hard.

I fear that it's something -- that something bad is happening. At the end of the day, of course. It does not mean that justices cannot do what they are supposed to do. So thank God they did that.

GLENN: So, Josh, have you looked into what the White House has been saying? The White House yesterday. In fact, do we have a clip of -- of this?

What the White House said yesterday, about the guns. And then they were turned to the -- the Scott us ruling, for Roe vs. Wade. Do we have that, please?

JOSH: Will the president accept this decision, even if he disagrees with it?

VOICE: I think it's going to come from the Supreme Court. So it's a decision we certainly are going to respond to. I'll leave it at that. Just like any other Supreme Court decision. Just like the one they did today on guns.

GLENN: So the White House won't say that they're going to accept it.

Which I don't think they will. They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas, where abortions will be outlawed. And putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions.

I mean, where does this go, when you have a government, that is in defiance of -- of one branch of the government?

JOSH: So there's a lot to unpack here. So we should start from first principles. The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing, to say on a day like today, where such a pro-life victory has happened in Italy. But if we're going to be consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy. The idea that the justices, have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the Constitution for themselves. And no other Constitutional actor, in article one or article two, let alone the state. Has the ability to tentatively interpret it. That is erroneous. In fact, actually it was really Abraham Lincoln actually, who in the Dred Scott case, famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as it pertains to everybody other than Dred Scott himself. I have actually argued, a former legal scholarship, in a law review article actually, that the Laconian view of how each branch of government should interpret the Constitution for itself, is correct.

Having said that. Having said that, there is a thing called prudence. And there is a thing called comedy. And in a moment like today, when it really does look like -- and I agree with you, that we are now bracing for riots through the streets. When the political rhetoric is at DEFCON one. When people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices. I think it would be -- at its bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act. For the Biden administration, to try to undermine this ruling.

Now, what they might do, is they might try to kind of issue some kind of executive orders, or issue some regulations, that might try to kind of undermine it, at the edges here. But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the state. There's not really a whole lot they can do about that. Basically, at this point, throughout the country. Kentucky within West Virginia. Kansas. Whatever. If they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the Biden administration literally do about that? I mean, short of sending in the National Guard, to protect Planned Parenthood, if the state legislature of Kentucky goes ahead and bans it. There's not a whole lot they can do. And it's very difficult to envision a world, in which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to red states, to protect Planned Parenthood, if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it. So for practically speaking. This is a lot of tough talk and rhetoric. Obviously the campaign here in 2022. There's not really a whole lot that practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation.

GLENN: I'm glad to -- I'm glad to hear that. I know that they have been working on things. I mean, he has said, you know, there's executive orders, that I can employ. There are things that I can do. He's talked about a national public health emergency. Which I think is just -- is crazy. But I would hope, that the president would come out and say, we strongly disagree with this. And you're right. The court is not the end all. But the court did not end abortion. It just said, the people should decide. I think that's the best kind of court ruling, on any of it. The people should decide what this is. And send it back to the states. Josh, I thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Was there -- there was another ruling, that came out today. Was it important?

JOSH: Oh, no. In comparison to this. A total nothing burger. A 5-4 decision on Medicare reimbursement related. So nothing, honestly.

GLENN: Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Josh. Josh Hammer, opinion editor for Newsweek. And the host of the Josh Hammer show.

GLENN: There are two things trending on twitter right now.

Number one is praise God.

Number two trend is Night of Rage.

Good verses evil.

Build up or tear down.

'Lord, we are SORRY it has taken us this long': BlazeTV hosts react to historic Roe v. Wade decision

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The Supreme Court of the United States officially overturned Roe V. Wade, and the debate over abortion rights has been given back to the states. On this historic day, BlazeTV hosts celebrate the Supreme Court's incredible decision and take a look at some of the insane reactions as the left comes completely undone.

Jason Whitlock: Today will forever stand as a pivotal moment in our nation’s history

The Supreme Court of the United States overturned Roe v. Wade. The decision and the reaction to it have already revealed a lot about our people and politics. Pro-life groups celebrate, pro-choice groups call for “a night of rage,” and Nancy Pelosi just seems completely confused by the United States Constitution.

Glenn Beck reacts LIVE to Roe v. Wade ruling: 'Lord, we are SORRY it has taken us this long'

I never thought that in my lifetime, I would see Roe v. Wade be overturned. But today, that day has come. The Supreme Court has voted 6 to 3 to return decisions about abortion to the states. But this fight isn't over. We are about to see good versus evil side by side. Many states will stand with the unborn. But others will become abortion mills. It's your turn to choose now, America!

Allie Beth Stuckey: 'Praise God, Roe v. Wade is overturned!'

I don't know about you, but I just had the most euphoric feelings. It almost seems too good to be true. I didn't think there was any way that this would actually happen, especially with all the backlash, intimidation, and violence toward the Supreme Court justices. And yet, here we are. Roe v. Wade has been overturned. This is an amazing day!

Dave Rubin: Big disagreement on what happens next now that Roe v. Wade is overturned

Dave Rubin, Libby Emmons, Jeffrey A. Tucker, and David Reaboi debate what will happen in the wake of the Supreme Court’s breaking decision on Roe v. Wade. Now that abortion rights have been pushed back to the states, will there be a summer of massive riots or not? Will the Roe v. Wade ruling make America’s political polarization significantly worse?

Stu Burguiere: Here are the reasons SCOTUS overturned Roe v. Wade

I never thought this would happen. I never thought I would see this day. I just never ever ever ever never ever believed that Roe v. Wade would actually be overturned. I really didn't. But let's take a look at the reasons this day has finally come ...

The Rick & Bubba Show: 'This is history! Unfortunately we're 60 million lives too late'

We were live on the air when news broke of the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States overturned its controversial 1973 Roe v. Wadeopinion, concluding that there is no constitutional right to an abortion.

"The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives," the syllabus of the decision reads.

As expected, the leftist outrage erupted instantaneously, fueled largely by the misinformed idea that overturning Roe v. Wade means abortion will be banned nationwide. But, as stated in the above-mentioned Supreme Court syllabus, the authority has actually been returned to individual states and their duly elected lawmakers.

One such misinformed leftist, Parkland shooting survivor Cameron Kasky, was infuriated that those awful Supreme Court justices "just voted to kill women." So he took to Twitter to urge people to go to the homes of said Supreme Court justices to "let them know how you feel."

"Go to the home of every Supreme Court justice who just voted to kill women. Let them know how you feel," Kasky tweeted.

The backlash was immediate:

Kasky decided to delete his original tweet because he is apparently "sick of republicans talking to [him]." But, unfortunately for Kasky, the internet is indeed forever:

Speaking from the White House, President Joe Biden dutifully helped spread the misinformation about the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and took the opportunity to prompt voters to elect more Democrats in November so that Congress can write abortion protections into law. Did the president just let slip the real reason Congress hasn't made any effort to start writing such laws in the nearly two months since Justice Samuel Alito's draft opinion was "leaked" in early May?

Watch Glenn Beck and producer Stu Burguere discuss how Biden's speech reveals that Democrats are absolutely terrified of the upcoming midterm elections. Can't watch? Download the podcast here.

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