Glenn Beck talks with Trace Adkins


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GLENN: We have the one, the only Trace Adkins with us which, Trace, this must be killing you to be listening to Britney Spears.

ADKINS: I'm a big fan, man.

GLENN: Of Britney Spears?

ADKINS: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: I can just see you in your hat listening to...

SENATOR OBAMA: Baby, baby.

GLENN: Hey, let me ask you. Before we -- because I want to talk to you about something else but before we get into that, tell me about what -- did you hear the quote from Barack Obama on the baby?

ADKINS: No, no.

GLENN: You didn't listen? Play the whole clip, will you? This is the speech he gave. I'd just like to get your -- are you willing to go down this road or not?

ADKINS: You just, you drive the car. I ain't going to jump out.

GLENN: All right. Here we go. Listen to this clip and tell me what you think.

SENATOR OBAMA: I've got two daughters, now 9 years old and 6 years old. I'm going to teach them, first of all, about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. Baby, baby.

GLENN: What do you think? Punished with a baby.

ADKINS: Wow. I had not heard that. When did he say that?

GLENN: He said that over the weekend. It just came out.

ADKINS: Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, that's going to stir something up, isn't it?

GLENN: Yeah. Do you think a baby is a punishment?

ADKINS: Well, it's not in my world, but I don't know.

GLENN: Let me ask you this question.

ADKINS: He's going to have to explain that, isn't he?

GLENN: Yeah. I made a -- and I may have been a little too higgledy-piggledy on making this prediction, but I believe that in your world Eliot Spitzer would have been plowed under one of your fields with your tractor.

ADKINS: Well, you know, I know this. The boy's not a Wal-Mart shopper, you know.

GLENN: Yeah.

ADKINS: He's not getting some -- he's not getting good deals, I know that. But you know Eliot Spitzer. You know, I guess you have to live up there to care, you know.

GLENN: No.

ADKINS: I really don't.

GLENN: No, we live here and we don't really care, either.

ADKINS: Okay. Well, I'm glad you're over it, getting past it.

GLENN: That's what we expect. So you were on the Apprentice, and I have to tell you, couldn't be a more disappointing ending. I mean, it was billed as good versus evil and evil won.

ADKINS: Yeah.

GLENN: What's up with that?

ADKINS: Yeah, what's up with that, yeah. You know, that was just -- you know, that was Trump just, you know, --

GLENN: Being Trump?

ADKINS: Trying to be a fight promoter, you know. That dude's not evil. I mean, you know, he's all those adjectives he used to describe himself, you know. Not a pleasant human being, but he's not evil. He's not tough enough to be evil. So --

GLENN: You would plow -- if he was evil --

ADKINS: I've got to be honest with you. I was. I was disappointed. I really was.

GLENN: If he was evil, you would have plowed him underneath your field in your tractor, wouldn't you?

ADKINS: Well, if we hadn't been playing on a show that was, you know, supposedly all for charity. And that's the spirit that I approached the whole thing with, you know. Had it not been that way, I wouldn't have lasted as long as I did on the show and neither would he.

GLENN: I have to tell you I didn't -- I'm sorry, Trace, but I just didn't have time to watch the show. But I have friends who were watching it and they would tell me every week. They would say, oh, my gosh, Trace is amazing. You were just, you were a straight arrow the whole time. And I think what was great, I think it was the episode before the last one maybe when you came in and said, "You should fire me. I mean, I'm the guy who's responsible, you know, you should fire me." And I think Trump was a little shocked by it, by, wait a minute, you are not supposed to say that, you are supposed to be a dirtbag and blame it on somebody else.

ADKINS: Right, yeah.

GLENN: Isn't this the way that business is supposed to work? I mean, in the world the way I think, Trace, the way you and I both see it, isn't that the way business is supposed to be? It's not supposed to be just about the bottom line. You can make a bigger bottom line if you're a decent person. Don't you think?

ADKINS: Yeah. Well, I agree totally, you know. With all due respect to Mr. Trump, you know, I think the decision he made sent the wrong message to young people in America. I mean, you know, I think the message he sent was just make the most money; it doesn't really matter how you go about it or how you conduct yourself or who you stomp on in the process, just as long as you come out on top, you know, as far as your windfall profits, and I just, I still feel that that was the wrong decision.

GLENN: So let's be honest, okay? Probably this will be -- this will take more courage than probably anything you've ever had to answer in an interview. Are you ready?

ADKINS: Yeah.

GLENN: I met Donald Trump before. Yes or no: The first 15 minutes you did everything you could. You were just saying in your own head, "Do not look directly at his hair, don't look at his hair." And every time he would look away, you would look at his hair. Yes or no?

ADKINS: Yeah, I was --

GLENN: Exactly.

ADKINS: I was staring at his hair.

GLENN: Now. The second part --

ADKINS: And then he pulled -- he saw that I was staring at his hair. So he pulled on it to show me that it was real.

GLENN: Yeah. See, when I met him, all I could think of was, don't look directly at his hair, don't let him catch you looking at his hair. So the second part of that question is it's weirder in real life than it is on television, isn't it?

ADKINS: Yeah, it is, it is. I mean, it is a marvel. You just stand there and you look at it and you try to -- you know, you try to see, you know, where it's pinned on or whatever and you just, you can't find it, you know. And I looked.

GLENN: My wife and I, we met him at a party and both of us were thinking the same thing. And we walked away and I said -- as soon as we got away from him, I said, honey, I have no idea. And she said -- and she didn't say anything. That was the first thing I said. I said, "Honey, I have no idea." And she said, "I can't figure it out, either." Neither of us. But we didn't have enough time to really look well. Somebody else was distracting him. We could not figure out how that's constructed up there. Any thoughts? Any theories? You were around him for how many weeks?

ADKINS: Well, yeah. No, I don't have any theories. I'm telling you it's a marvel. It's just, it's amazing. It's one of those mysteries that we'll just never know the truth about it, I'm afraid, you know? And I've looked closely. I couldn't figure it out, either.

GLENN: So now what are you doing?

ADKINS: What am I doing?

GLENN: Yeah. Are you going to go on tour?

ADKINS: Yeah, we're still touring and doing some weekend stuff right now. I'm out in Los Angeles today and going to start doing some movie stuff.

GLENN: What are you doing? You're in Los Angeles?

ADKINS: Yes.

GLENN: That's like matter and antimatter. I mean, the whole universe could collapse on itself. What are you doing in Los Angeles?

ADKINS: You know, I'm doing some movie things, you know.

GLENN: So you are not in Los Angeles. You're with Hollywood people. Get out!

ADKINS: Yeah, but I'm with a pretty good crew of Hollywood people that I don't think get invited to all the parties, either.

GLENN: Of course not. They're hanging out with you.

ADKINS: That could be the reason, but --

GLENN: What is the movie project you're working on?

ADKINS: Well, it's just, it's this thing that they don't want me to really talk too much about right now. It's going to be a very timely political type thing. They are kind of flying under the radar with it right now.

GLENN: Well, not anymore. I mean, not anymore. You are right.

ADKINS: Yeah, everybody knows about it.

GLENN: Just, you know you're on air, right?

ADKINS: Yeah, but you said that it's the third most listened to station. That's not very many people.

GLENN: You're right. You are right. When you're right, you're right, and you're right.

ADKINS: I mean, if it was the second or the first most listened to, I would not even bring this up, but it's third.

GLENN: All right, you jerk.

ADKINS: So we're safe.

GLENN: Trace, it's always good to talk to you, man.

ADKINS: All right, man. Somebody's got to smack you around to keep you in your place every now and then.

GLENN: I know. I appreciate it, Trace. You've been great, man.

ADKINS: Thanks, man.

GLENN: I've lost my ears. Did Trace hang up? Hang on. I've lost --

STU: His headphones are --

GLENN: This is why we're the third most listened to.

STU: Yeah, like as Trace --

ADKINS: This is professional radio right here.

GLENN: For some reason -- Dan, can you check the board? Maybe I'm not getting any feed.

STU: Trace, this is the problem here is that again if we were number one or number two, all of our equipment would work.

ADKINS: Exactly.

GLENN: So now I got it. I got it. How are you doing, Trace?

ADKINS: Maybe when Rush gets through with that board he is using now, you guys can borrow it.

GLENN: We've got a third hand board that we're using. It's all hand-me-down stuff.

ADKINS: He uses it and then the number two uses it and then you get it.

GLENN: Okay, thanks.

ADKINS: Y'all suck.

GLENN: Well, I was going to ask you about your charity that you were playing for but I don't think I'm going to now.

ADKINS: Oh, man, you're mean.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah, that's the way it is.

ADKINS: Yeah. Well, I'm going to tell you you don't have to ask me. It's the Food Allergy Anaphylaxis Network and it's a group of the most loving, caring, giving people that I've ever really been associated with and I'm proud to be, and they are doing a lot of good work and I'm going to continue to work with them and hopefully we'll make some progress and, you know, raise an awareness and combating this problem.

GLENN: I didn't listen to a word you just said. How is that, huh?

ADKINS: It was good, though.

GLENN: I bet it was. All right, Trace, great talking to you, man, we'll talk to you again.

ADKINS: You, too.

Reform Conservatism and Reaganomics: A middle road?

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Senator Marco Rubio broke Republican ranks recently when he criticized the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act by stating that “there's no evidence whatsoever that the money's been massively poured back into the American worker." Rubio is wrong on this point, as millions of workers have received major raises, while the corporate tax cuts have led to a spike in capital expenditure (investment on new projects) of 39 percent. However, the Florida senator is revisiting an idea that was front and center in the conservative movement before Donald Trump rode down an escalator in June of 2015: reform conservatism.

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The "reformicons," like Rubio, supported moving away from conservative or supply-side orthodoxy and toward policies such as the expansion of the child and earned income tax credits. On the other hand, longstanding conservative economic theory indicates that corporate tax cuts, by lowering disincentives on investment, will lead to long-run economic growth that will end up being much more beneficial to the middle class than tax credits.

But asking people to choose between free market economic orthodoxy and policies guided towards addressing inequality and the concerns of the middle class is a false dichotomy.

Instead of advocating policies that many conservatives might dismiss as redistributionist, reformicons should look at the ways government action hinders economic opportunity and exacerbates income inequality. Changing policies that worsen inequality satisfies limited government conservatives' desire for free markets and reformicons' quest for a more egalitarian America. Furthermore, pushing for market policies that reduce the unequal distribution of wealth would help attract left-leaning people and millennials to small government principles.

Criminal justice reform is an area that reformicons and free marketers should come together around. The drug war has been a disaster, and the burden of this misguided government approach have fallen on impoverished minority communities disproportionately, in the form of mass incarceration and lower social mobility. Not only has the drug war been terrible for these communities, it's proved costly to the taxpayer––well over a trillion dollars has gone into the drug war since its inception, and $80 billion dollars a year goes into mass incarceration.

Prioritizing retraining and rehabilitation instead of overcriminalization would help address inequality, fitting reformicons' goals, and promote a better-trained workforce and lower government spending, appealing to basic conservative preferences.

Government regulations tend to disproportionately hurt small businesses and new or would-be entrepreneurs. In no area is this more egregious than occupational licensing––the practice of requiring a government-issued license to perform a job. The percentage of jobs that require licenses has risen from five percent to 30 percent since 1950. Ostensibly justified by public health concerns, occupational licensing laws have, broadly, been shown to neither promote public health nor improve the quality of service. Instead, they serve to provide a 15 percent wage boost to licensed barbers and florists, while, thanks to the hundreds of hours and expensive fees required to attain the licenses, suppressing low-income entrepreneurship, and costing the economy $200 billion dollars annually.

Those economic losses tend to primarily hurt low-income people who both can't start businesses and have to pay more for essential services. Rolling back occupational licenses will satisfy the business wing's desire for deregulation and a more free market and the reformicons' support for addressing income inequality and increasing opportunity.

The favoritism at play in the complex tax code perpetuates inequality.

Tax expenditures form another opportunity for common ground between the Rubio types and the mainstream. Tax deductions and exclusions, both on the individual and corporate sides of the tax code, remain in place after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Itemized deductions on the individual side disproportionately benefit the wealthy, while corporate tax expenditures help well-connected corporations and sectors, such as the fossil fuel industry.

The favoritism at play in the complex tax code perpetuates inequality. Additionally, a more complicated tax code is less conducive to economic growth than one with lower tax rates and fewer exemptions. Therefore, a simpler tax code with fewer deductions and exclusions would not only create a more level playing field, as the reformicons desire, but also additional economic growth.

A forward-thinking economic program for the Republican Party should marry the best ideas put forward by both supply-siders and reform conservatives. It's possible to take the issues of income inequality and lack of social mobility seriously, while also keeping mainstay conservative economic ideas about the importance of less cumbersome regulations and lower taxes.

Alex Muresianu is a Young Voices Advocate studying economics at Tufts University. He is a contributor for Lone Conservative, and his writing has appeared in Townhall and The Daily Caller. He can be found on Twitter @ahardtospell.

Is this what inclusivity and tolerance look like? Fox News host Tomi Lahren was at a weekend brunch with her mom in Minnesota when other patrons started yelling obscenities and harassing her. After a confrontation, someone threw a drink at her, the moment captured on video for social media.

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On today's show, Pat and Jeffy talked about this uncomfortable moment and why it shows that supposedly “tolerant" liberals have to resort to physical violence in response to ideas they don't like.

President Donald Trump has done a remarkable job of keeping his campaign promises so far. From pulling the US from the Iran Deal and Paris Climate Accord to moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem, the president has followed through on his campaign trail vows.

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“It's quite remarkable. I don't know if anybody remembers, but I was the guy who was saying he's not gonna do any of those things," joked Glenn on “The News and Why it Matters," adding, “He has taken massive steps, massive movement or completed each of those promises … I am blown away."

Watch the video above to hear Glenn Beck, Sara Gonzales, Doc Thompson, Stu Burguiere and Pat Gray discuss the story.

Rapper Kendrick Lamar brings white fan onstage to sing with him, but here’s the catch

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Rapper Kendrick Lamar asked a fan to come onstage and sing with him, only to condemn her when she failed to censor all of the song's frequent mentions of the “n-word" while singing along.

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“I am so sorry," she apologized when Lamar pointed out that she needed to “bleep" that word. “I'm used to singing it like you wrote it." She was booed at by the crowd of people, many screaming “f*** you" after her mistake.

On Tuesday's show, Pat and Jeffy watched the clip and talked about some of the Twitter reactions.

“This is ridiculous," Pat said. “The situation with this word has become so ludicrous."