GLENN: Well, let me introduce a couple of people. One you know because we've had on the program several times, Marcus Luttrell. Hi, Marcus, how are you?
LUTTRELL: Good, good, how are you?
GLENN: Author of Lone Survivor. And David Bellavia who is also now with us, are you up in Buffalo, David?
BELLAVIA: I'm in Florida actually.
GLENN: I thought you were on your way to Buffalo. I thought you were going home.
BELLAVIA: We got detoured. It turns out the people want more stories of the good news that's happening out here. So I'm in Florida now.
GLENN: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. So you're not in Buffalo. You are a he in Florida.
BELLAVIA: Buffalo's a beautiful, beautiful city, though.
GLENN: Oh, come on.
BELLAVIA: My heart's in Buffalo.
GLENN: Oh, yeah, your heart's in Buffalo. We're going to start dropping out of the sky just giant bundles of food from the UN.
BELLAVIA: Glenn, they love you in Buffalo. They love you in Buffalo.
GLENN: So David, I want to start with you because there's been some controversy and I didn't bring it up on the show last night because honestly I didn't realize how out of control this thing is getting and when I found out what's really happening, it was already too late for the TV show and I said, you know what, I'll put you on radio because this is such an unbelievably horrific thing to do to somebody like you or to do to anybody, but it is the perfect example of what we've been talking about on this program about how people will use anything for power and to get elected. Tell me the story of what happened when you were down in Washington along with the Vets For Freedom and you introduced John McCain.
BELLAVIA: Well, what it was, I was with the organization Vets for Freedom. Recently, about two weeks ago my congressman in the 26th district of New York decided not to run. I threw my name in the race. So I will announce my candidacy for congress. As soon as that happened with my war pedigree, I just, I knew that I was in the target and on the radar. I introduced John McCain at this rally and what I basically said was, was that I was making a comparison of heroes, that all ages and races can look up to, referring to Senator McCain as more -- someone that, you know, should be on a pedestal for my two little boys to look up to, someone like Marcus Luttrell, Michael Mansoor. These are American heroes, compared to professional athletes or entertainers. I looked in the audience. I saw a guy with a Callaway golf hat on and I automatically thought of the most famous golfer who is Tiger Woods and I said, you can have your Tiger Woods as your heroes. We have men like Senator McCain. That's who my boys will look up to.
GLENN: Okay. And what it's been turned into by, what a surprise, the ultra left NBC, what they have turned this into is we have a white guy; you have the black guy. Right?
BELLAVIA: Exactly. And just the fact -- just not going to play that game. The first response was, you know --
GLENN: Are you there? Oh, boy. Belle sorry about that. Are you there?
BELLAVIA: Yeah, the first response --
GLENN: Dick Cheney, if you're on the phone, hang up the phone! Stop listening.
BELLAVIA: I must have set off a keyword. The first response I thought was ridiculous and then it just got more and more absurd with these bloggers getting my personal information out there calling me a bigot. In my world, I have an 8-year-old and a 1-year-old and I'm raising these kids to know that a man who sacrifices. You know, Marcus Luttrell could right now be in a ranch somewhere. He could be in Texas, he could be going to medical school. He chose to serve his country and he sacrificed for his country. So you know what? I want a baseball card on Marcus Luttrell. I want my kids to know what he went through and why he is important and how they should guide their life after him. And I'm sorry, but, you know, Brangelina and Britney Spears are not important. They are not important people and I made the mistake of mentioning African-American to people who are morally and ethically bankrupt and they turned this whole thing around to race.
GLENN: David, have they really, they've actually targeted your children, your family?
BELLAVIA: Yes, sir. They have been not only the e-mails that come pouring in but someone leaked, you know, phone numbers and everything else and locations of where people attend school and how they want to educate my kids and save them from their bigoted father. It's just absolutely ridiculous. But you know what? I can deal with that. I can deal with that. I'm a big boy. I've known what it's like to fight. I can handle that. What annoys me, though, is the fact that I've got to go on a Glenn Beck program and defend. We are fighting as Americans. We're bleeding next to African-Americans. I fought with Muslim Americans, Glenn, in Iraq. This was never about religion or ethnicity. It's about Americans defending our culture and our way of life and I am proud to say that our legacy, we are the greatest humanitarian organizations ever lived in the United States military and we have nothing to apologize for and I'm not going to apologize for saying that Tiger Woods -- I don't think it was the Masters, by the way, but you know what? He's a golfer! He's a golfer! He's a golf ball.
GLENN: We've made this point on the program over and over and over again.
BELLAVIA: And by the way, Tiger Woods' father was a hero. Tiger Woods' father was an American hero that I want my kids to look up to. But Tiger Woods, until he puts -- gets a bad haircut and throws a rug sack and starts to shoot bad guys like your in-studio guest there --
GLENN: Notice you're playing yourself down because you've done nothing.
BELLAVIA: Well, no, what I'm getting at is, you know, look the reality of the matter is that we have so many people that have stories. I mean, some of the stories are fantastic but the reality is, Glenn, we've had two female silver star recipients for the first time since World War II. There are people on the left that go, what are women doing in the war. They are taking down bad guys is what they're doing. Why are we debating gays in the military and women in the military when the reality is they want to kill us in an equal opportunity manner. I just don't get it.
GLENN: David, are you really running for congress? You announced that last, what was it, last week, two weeks ago?
BELLAVIA: Yeah, the official announcement's going to come on next week.
GLENN: Have you sincerely thought about that? I mean, how are you going to keep yourself, seriously?
BELLAVIA: I've got to shave every morning. I understand that. You know what it comes down to? It comes down to the Fact that our generation needs to start bringing out these guys that return from the war since World War II. The 1948 generation. We've got to get guys. You know, Marcus and his peers did what they did. Now it's time to move that generation, that we elected them for one reason and then they get to Washington and all of a sudden it's, hey, I want to go to a party on the weekend. I can't really stand behind my principles as a conservative and my whole thing is, look, man, I faced down six guys in a house. That's my -- you can have your Princeton degree. I got my Ph.D. from the university of Fallujah and to me it's like if I'm not going to back down from Islamo terrorism, I'm certainly not going to back down from a special interest group.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, I mean, it would be easier, though, if the special interest groups, you know, had guns. I really think because I think you get into -- I think these good people get into Washington and they will compromise a little bit because then they can help me on this and before you know it, your soul is gone. I mean, it's going to take some people like you and like Marcus and certainly not like me. I mean, I'm an alcoholic. You just, people who just won't lose their soul. That's hard to do.
BELLAVIA: But, you know, guys like you are giving us the compass and telling us the right and left limit and that's what's important. You know, like it or not, when you come up and you're successful, I mean, they're going to come heavy at you.
GLENN: Oh, I know.
BELLAVIA: What I love about this whole thing is obviously we intimidate them. Obviously having that rally in front of the people that we have it with Senator McCain and, by the way, Senator Lieberman was there, Jim Marshall, a Democrat from Georgia was behind us. This is intimidating to them because they don't want to hear from Marcus Luttrell. Marcus Luttrell would put his valor awards on a table and automatically silence everyone on the left that uses their war pedigree as subject matter expertise. So I'm saying, look, man, I'll see your John and raise you Marcus Luttrell. And we win.
GLENN: You know what? Can I tell you something, David? And Marcus, I don't mean to continue to embarrass you here because I know you're a humble guy and if that ever changes, I'm going to send somebody bigger than you to beat the snot out of you. You're a humble guy. So I don't mean to make you more uncomfortable but, you know, I was having a conversation with somebody after you guys visited and there was one guy that came down and said "I've got to meet these guys, just got to meet these guys. I want to watch these guys, I want to meet them," and he's new to the Glenn Beck world and so he had never seen, you know, what happens when there's celebrity on the set or something. Usually nobody comes down, but there's been a couple of times when there's been a celebrity on the set and it was a baseball player, if I'm not mistaken, where everybody just lined up to see him. He said to me afterwards, he said, I have to tell you my heart is broken. And I said, what do you mean? He said, there was nobody, there was nobody that lined up to see these guys. These guys are remarkable. They're heroes and there wasn't anybody that lined up to see them.
But Marcus, you guys have gone out now and you've seen the regular people. Do the regular people, do they know who you guys are? Do they understand? Are you guys starting from scratch and saying, look, guys, stop being brainwashed by the media, here's what's really happening?
LUTTRELL: Both actually. You get out there and sometimes people line up and sometimes they won't. Sometimes people turn their back and walk away. But, you know, so what, I don't get any heartburn over it or anything like that. But -- and it is nice when people come up and actually thank you for what you're doing. And not all -- you know, we don't -- actually it's kind of embarrassing to me, when people come up and shake my hand, thank me for my job.
GLENN: David, you just brought this up a minute ago. You guys aren't doing your job now. What are you doing, Marcus? What does your future hold for you?
LUTTRELL: What am I going to do personally?
GLENN: Yeah, what are you going to do personally.
LUTTRELL: Losing my mind.
GLENN: That was a little awkward, wasn't it, David?
LUTTRELL: No one's ever asked me that before.
BELLAVIA: I think he's going to start a wrestling career.
GLENN: Wait, wait, wait. Answer that question. Go ahead. What are you going to do?
LUTTRELL: I want to be a doctor. I want to go to medical school. That was my dream for a long time. I want to go and serve my country and I wanted to go to medical school. So that's what I'm going to do.
GLENN: Do you find that -- I guess on the surface almost diametrically opposed but then, David, your words come to mind that the military is the biggest charitable organization ever on the Earth. We're not killing people just to kill people. We're killing them, you know, for a reason because they're trying to kill us. It's strangely your first part of your career has been --
LUTTRELL: To kill people?
GLENN: Yeah, to kill people.
LUTTRELL: Going from that to being a doctor?
GLENN: Have you ever thought of that?
LUTTRELL: It crossed my mind a couple of times but, you know, I was good at what I did then and now I want to be good at this. You can only do that for so long, I guess, before it catches up with you and I just, I couldn't do it anymore. If I could go back and be a frogman again and keep doing the job and be over with my brothers right now, I would. I'd do it in a heartbeat, I swear to God. I think about it every day. It was the most funny ever had in my whole life and being around those guys and being a part of the team. But I had to do it. I couldn't do it anymore. So I had to move on and now it's time for me to (inaudible).
GLENN: Let me ask you a question because I saw this story, I think it was in the New York Times and I have never, ever seen it before, ever where the interview was done with a bunch of military people over in Iraq and they asked them, who are you supporting for President. You guys aren't supposed to answer that, are you?
LUTTRELL: I don't think so.
BELLAVIA: No, that's definitely in uniform against the rules.
GLENN: Yeah. But they asked these serving over in Iraq, who are you voting for, and they were quoted in the paper as saying, all of them, every single one said Barack Obama and, you know, I asked my nephew who is in special forces and just -- anyway, he spent a lot of time over there. And when I said, you know, what do you think of, you know, your mother. I said, you know your mother is going to vote for Barack Obama. And he said, oh, "I have to talk to her." Is there a movement? According to this article, it was almost like there was a movement towards Barack Obama and antiwar and everything else. I know you guys can't speak for the military, but did you sense that?
LUTTRELL: I know with my group of guys, we don't really, I don't think they are concentrating too much on that. I think they are concentrating on the mission at hand and worrying about what we're doing over there.
GLENN: Right. But is there an antiwar sentiment with the military?
LUTTRELL: I don't think so, not on my end, not that I'm aware of.
GLENN: Because these guys were saying things like, I just want this to be over, I just want to go home.
BELLAVIA: But Glenn, all those polls, I remember I was actually in the country when they asked me and it was part of a ABC News poll and they asked our soldiers, myself, I was in the group, do you want to go home at the end of the year.
BELLAVIA: Of course I said I want to go home at the end of the week.
BELLAVIA: And then they strapped on that information to be, these troops want to go home now. They don't want to see the mission completed, this he want to throw away their fallen brothers', you know, memories and say, hey, look, cut it as a loss and let's repeat the shame that was brought upon the Vietnam generation unnecessarily. I don't think that anyone that says who they're looking for -- I didn't have time to even know when election day was in 2004, let alone vote. I mean, ask -- you know, we're not exactly talking about the price of oil per barrel when we're getting rockets shot over our head, you know?
GLENN: Yeah. By the way, I just want to point out to the listener, this is the way I think professional soldiers answer the question. Did you notice neither of them have said who they were for or what their politics are or anything else. Neither one of them have said that. That is the way. That is the exact opposite of what the left has been saying about Vets For Freedom: Oh, they're so political, they're so blah, blah, blah. I just asked them and neither one of them would say it. And it wasn't, I don't think it was intentional on either one. You guys just don't get into that. Good for you. Good for you.
BELLAVIA: Well, thanks. You know, I don't --
GLENN: Well, David, I'm not talking to you. You're clearly a racist.
BELLAVIA: Oh, my goodness gracious. Glenn Beck is piling on. You see that? I knew. You are a cut-and-runner.
GLENN: Hang on just a second. David, I want to talk to you guys both a little bit more here. I want to talk about Lone Survivor being a movie. The other part, the other thing I want to talk about is I met Jesse Ventura the other day and this guy made blood shoot out of my eyes. So I just want to talk to you because he talked down to me like, "You're not a SEAL, you've never blown anything up." You guys have. So let me ask you some questions. We'll do that in just a second.
(Bonus audio: The insider audio for this transcript contains the remainder of the interview)