GLENN: Susan Sarandon says if John McCain gets elected, she's going to move to Italy or Canada. Maybe I'll move up with her. I mean, Susan Sarandon. John McCain's not even good enough for -- who do you think she's for? She can be for Hillary Clinton. She's got to be -- well, she's got to be a conundrum. She's really between a rock and a hard place because she's such a feminist that she's going to have to admit that she's either racist or sexist. Which do you think she picks, Stu? Is she a sexist or a racist?

STU: Oh, gee. I think she's probably going to be a sexist.

GLENN: I think she's going to be a sexist as well.

STU: You know why? Because you can always -- she's part of the sex. So she can say, well, I'm a woman; of course I'm not sexist.

GLENN: Sure, sure.

STU: She wants to get away from the racist part of it.

GLENN: Well, I can see why she wants to move out, especially with John McCain because the world will be a much more dangerous place with John -- oh, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. The one thing I can give John McCain credit for is he seems to have been right on the Iraq war because as soon as we started doing what he said we should be doing, gosh, casualties are down now this month from last year, down 83%? The CIA has come out today -- I love this one. The CIA director has come out and said not only we scored big gains against Al-Qaeda, they're almost out of business. We've almost put them out of business and we have put them out of business in Iraq. They have left Iraq and decided, they've stopped all recruiting in Iraq. It's just not working there. So I can see, the fighting didn't make it safer, it only made the world more dangerous and we're not getting -- and there's this quagmire, too. Quagmire.

STU: The surge won't work.

GLENN: We should pull our troops out right now. Stu the surge has failed.

GLENN: It has failed?

STU: It has failed.

GLENN: I thought it was getting better.

STU: Well, it's failed for them because they wanted it to get worse.

GLENN: You know what, Stu? You know what it really is? It's not that the surge -- the surge may have worked and casualties may be down 83% year to year but you know what? There hasn't really been any political change there, you know? There's not -- you know, they haven't come up with a political solution at all. The government still failed over there.

STU: So that's where we are now? I just want to make sure I know where the line is.

GLENN: That's where we are now. No, the government has. Forget about in 1791, you know, we're still struggling for our Constitution, you know, back in the 1780s -- 1776, great. Then we put the government together and our government fails until 1791. So don't worry about that. Government, once you change them and fundamentally change them from the core, you just turn the key. It's a turnkey operation. A lot like McDonald's. Countries are like franchises. You set them up, put the menu in front of people, you open up the doors and you're done. Maybe they forgot the playland but instead of putting balls in the playland they put like square cubes and that just didn't -- I'm not sure.

STU: It would seem to me that, what, we're 232 years old at this point? And we're not exactly running perfectly, either. We're still having our own political issues here and there.

GLENN: Uh-uh, no. Well, we are. I was going to say we're having those problems, but France is perfect.

STU: Right, obviously France.

GLENN: Well, France was perfect until a conservative took over. Now France is an abomination. You know, as soon as he started building and forcing them to have 80% of their power from nuclear energy, do you remember when he was elected last year and then he built all of those nuclear power plants and immediately went on 80% nuclear energy?

STU: Actually, no, that's been happening there for a long time.

GLENN: What?

STU: Yeah. They've had that way before Sarkozy.

GLENN: Well, it's not France but it's Italy. Italy is perfect. Italy is perfect. You know, the whole -- I mean, they've got healthcare, you know, right now. And, you know, -- sure, they're finally saying that healthcare's not going to work because illegal immigrants are coming in. But they say, hey, illegal immigrants, hey, they can have that healthcare for free, too, because we're not racist and hate mongers like --

STU: No, that's not what's happening.

GLENN: They are taking it away from illegal immigrants?

STU: Yeah, they're not allowed to --

GLENN: Even if they are going to emergency rooms, they can't get healthcare for free?

STU: You are not --

GLENN: Over in enlightened Europe?

STU: -- describing the policy differently. It's totally different.

GLENN: Well, I'm with Susan Sarandon. I think we move to Italy or Canada, if John McCain wins.