GLENN: And later on today's program I'm going to run down the violence on the border. It is absolutely staggering on what is happening on the border. 6,000 people have been killed on our border and yet this doesn't seem to resonate with anybody. It doesn't seem to be on any news channels, anything.
So how do you get the message out? Now, I was having a debate with Joe last night about these photos and this is the same debate that we've had on CNN. CNN says you cannot show these photos and the reason why, they say it's just too gruesome. It's too violent. I think that's what you need to see. I think you should -- I think you should be allowed to see these things. Because of that, nobody has any idea of what's going on on the border. I have photos of things that have happened within a few miles of the U.S. border and I don't mean like a big fence. I mean you can just walk across the border. So I've given up on showing on TV, but I sent them to Chris Brady last night. Stu, I'm going to forward them to you. I sent them to Chris Brady last night and I said, just have them ready. I might, I might put them on the website today but I don't think I want them even on the website because I want you to have to click through a couple of things to get it. You know what I mean?
GLENN: Oh, boy.
STU: Yeah. I don't think I want to see them, but should I see these before you --
GLENN: That's what I'm asking you to. I want you to look at them but only if you -- you know, I was thinking about it this morning because I was going to post them and then I said to Chris last night, hang on, just a second, let me think about this because Joe's voice was in my head. And I got up this morning and I was thinking about it and I thought, you know, I saw these photos, oh, what was it, eight months ago when they were originally given to me and I remember them exactly the way I saw them again yesterday when I asked for them. Once you see them, you can't unsee them. And I don't think that you've ever seen anything like it before. I never have. But I know you do a lot of research and everything else on the Internet. I don't know what kind of weird sites you go to, but I'm sure you can see things like this but I never have.
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STU: Is this something that I need to see? I know it's not something I want to see.
GLENN: That is -- I guess that is the question. That's the question. Do you need to see them. That was Joe's question. Do I need to. That's CNN's, do you need to. I think you don't because you get the border. I think anybody who says, oh, well, what could be happening on the border, you should see them.
GLENN: You've never seen anything like it, never seen anything like it. Do you want to see them? Should we post them?
STU: I mean, I think the point is valid to put a, sort of a -- I mean --
GLENN: See, I'm uncomfortable on even with a disclaimer putting them on the Internet, putting the -- you know what I mean? Putting it -- leaving it on the website. I don't think I should leave it on the website. I was thinking this morning that maybe we just put it in the free e-mail newsletter with, like, a disclaimer and if you click on it, then there's another disclaimer that says, are you sure. Because I don't want it something -- I just don't think it should be sitting on the Internet.
GLENN: Do you want to see it?
STU: I don't know.
GLENN: I just sent it to you. Dan, do you have it?
DAN: Yes. I looked. Ugghh.
GLENN: You just clicked on it?
DAN: I clicked on it. Well, I just clicked on it. Sort of a mistake, but --
GLENN: You'll never unsee that, will you?
DAN: No, no, not going to --
STU: Can I look at it now that you've seen it?
GLENN: So Dan, now that you've seen it, this is the story of -- this is -- you want to talk about care tactics, this is what people are doing. This is what happened on the dance -- that is a dance floor, on a nightclub dance floor where it was crowded on a Friday night and those heads were rolled in onto the dance floor.
DAN: I think you should see it personally because to me the issues, it's easy to get around these issues or to kind of push them aside when you don't really know the full extent of what's going on. And when you -- you know, when you don't look at this kind of stuff, you can kind of --
GLENN: Did you see the barrels in the other pictures? Did you look in the other pictures?
DAN: I only saw a couple. There was a couple on there.
GLENN: The two barrels?
DAN: Yeah, yeah.
GLENN: The barrels are where they're just dumping bodies. There are also barrels of acid where they just take people and just dump them into acid. And then there's the other, the least gruesome is the body that is wrapped up like a mummy with a warning on it and just dumped on the side of the street. 6,000 people have been killed on our border, 6,000 people. That is double the amount of American soldiers that have been lost in the last five years. More than double. How many have been lost?
STU: You might be thinking of a shorter time period because this is, what, 4,000, 4100 now overall.
GLENN: Is it really?
STU: Yeah. But, you know, that stat might just be based on the last few years. But still, I mean, that's more than that. We've certainly had plenty of debate about that. It doesn't seem like anyone wants you to know about the violence that goes on on the border.
GLENN: 6,000, how is this not a big deal?
STU: I can't --
GLENN: So do you want to look at it or not?
STU: No, I don't want to. But, you know, if it's something that you legitimately think that should be -- that should be cleared, I mean, like is it something that, like, you really don't know whether it should be up there? Is it that bad?
GLENN: Oh, Dan, have you ever seen anything like that?
DAN: No. No, can't say that I have.
GLENN: Yeah, I don't know. I am -- seriously, Stu, I wanted to put -- I've been fighting for these pictures to be put on CNN for how long? You know. And you've never seen them and I haven't shown them really to anybody and I've been fighting to put them on because in the border special I wanted to be able to show you, and they won't do it. And when Joe, who has been doing a lot of different things, I guess I can announce it today, I have been given the opportunity -- we have been working on this since January. I have been given the opportunity to go meet with Compean and Ramos in their prison. I can't take -- they won't let me take a television camera in. They are again afraid of pictures. They won't let me take a television camera in. I can't take a recording device in. I can take a pencil and a paper and that's it. So I'm going, I don't know when, in the next hopefully 30 days I'm going to meet with them and I'm going to do an interview with them and then I'm going to record my thoughts. As soon as I walk out, we're going to do a TV special on it and then we're going to do a TV special on the border. And I wanted to include these. I think they're important to see.
STU: I don't like looking at things like this. I know this is probably -- we'll see. Because I certainly will watch horror movies that will show the whole thing.
GLENN: Oh, no, this is --
STU: When it's real, it is something that you don't want to.
GLENN: You know, Dan, as I saw it again last night, I thought to myself -- because this morning there are things in the picture now that I can't get out of my head and I thought to myself just this morning, I don't than think I've seen that -- I've seen that in a horror movie but I've never seen -- I've never -- it's never been obviously that real. I've never seen the things that I saw there. Do you understand what I'm saying?
DAN: I'm trying to think of specifically what part you could be referring to.
GLENN: I'm just -- I mean, we know their heads. The inside of the neck.
DAN: That's the one thing.
GLENN: I just, I've never seen anything like it.
DAN: That's the one thing that, yeah, I'm right there with you.
GLENN: It is -- and there's a warning. Is it in blood, Dan, the warning that's written on the dance floor? They bowled these heads in and left a warning: Don't mess with us. Now we've got three sheriffs over on that side of the border that are asking, please, please, political asylum. And you're introducing high food prices, high gas prices, rate of inflation. We're introducing things that are just going to be a powder keg. And then high taxes here in America. How are you going to be able to contain all of this stuff without some sort of a fence, without somebody -- without somebody really getting serious. So we'll give you that. I guess, Stu, you just make a decision.
STU: Right now I'm just blowing you off.
GLENN: I know, but sometime during the program make a decision. Here's what I want to know. Should they be put on the Internet. I don't want to put them on the Internet.