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GLENN: So Stu, give me the polls that we were just talking about with the Insiders. The poll numbers for how satisfied are you as a Democrat, independent or a Republican with the candidate choices that are out there.
STU: Right. You start with Democrats are 82% satisfied and 18% not satisfied. And this is from about two weeks ago where Obama was clearly the, you know, big frontrunner but hadn't completely locked it up yet.
GLENN: Like to see where that number is today because that includes Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
STU: Yes, although Clinton was, I mean, you know, clearly behind at this point, you know.
GLENN: I understand that. Well, no, how do you mean she was clearly behind?
STU: I mean, she -- you know, it had been called by the media already.
GLENN: Yeah, it had been called by the media, but did you notice that Barack Obama, his polling numbers went down? After that big spike, she started polling better.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: I mean, she was winning all the way -- she was clobbering him it the end.
STU: Yeah, after the media called it, she destroyed him.
GLENN: Destroyed him, destroyed him. But anyway you can understand that. I would like to see that number now that it's going to be Barack Obama because I wonder how many Clinton supporters now say, I can't vote for, I can't, I can't vote for Barack.
STU: Yeah, I think that's a fake -- I think that's a fake group. I don't think they really exist.
GLENN: I think there's maybe, out of the Democratic party I bet you there's 5%.
STU: Yeah, maybe 5%. Maybe 5%. But it's very small. This whole idea that 27% of Clinton supporters are going to vote for John McCain, forget it.
GLENN: You know what, then again, once you start knowing that he is the most liberal guy in the Senate.
STU: With the exception of the Operation Chaos people, what person who's voting for Hillary Clinton is going to be upset at the most liberal senator in the Senate? If you are voting for Hillary Clinton already.
GLENN: No, no, no, I know a lot of Democrats, I know a lot of Democrats in the middle of the country, you know, in blue state territory that are Blue Dog Democrats, that don't -- they don't agree with, you know, pull our troops out now immediately. They're not Nancy Pelosi.
STU: What are they voting for Hillary Clinton for then?
GLENN: They are not Nancy Pelosi people. Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, I think that a lot of people look at Hillary Clinton -- I can't speak for Democrats, but as I read it the people who are the Blue Dog Democrats will say I'll take Bill Clinton's policies. He triangulated, you know? He wasn't George Bush and, you know, he was as far to the left as George Bush really is in many ways, you know, with an exception of the war policies, he did change but that didn't go well. So people who were in that mindset look at Bill Clinton much more as a centrist and so they say Hillary Clinton will be a centrist because she's got Bill with him and they're triangulaters. That's not who Barack Obama is.
STU: I don't know. To me these people have almost identical policies. I mean, their policies are almost identical. This whole idea of going back and forth between them has been stupid the entire time. They believe the same things.
GLENN: Yes, they do but they're not the same people and they're not -- I mean, Hillary Clinton did not say she would raise the capital gains tax out of fairness.
STU: No, but she still said she was going to raise it.
GLENN: But not out of fairness.
STU: I don't know. How many people know that? The bottom line is they're both -- I don't even know if anyone knows that both want to raise the capital gains tax, let alone why they're doing it. But the bottom line is they both want to do it and they both want to raise a lot of other taxes, too. You know, to me if you're -- there's a clear choice on a lot of these issues and I think a lot of Democrats they vote over things like the war and they vote over things like healthcare and there's a huge difference between McCain and those two on those issues. There's not much difference at all between Obama and Clinton. I mean, you're talked about, you know, 1-A and 1-B.
GLENN: I don't think so. I don't think so. You are right in what they say but not necessarily what they do. You are wrong, I think.
STU: I think you're wrong.
GLENN: No, you're wrong.
STU: You're wrong!
GLENN: You're wrong!
STU: Who's going to vote for me?
GLENN: Okay. So the other thing on Barack Obama is completely lost now. I'm sorry, riddled with ADD. It's completely gone.
STU: Well, I apologize for interrupting you.
GLENN: Go ahead. So the next poll number.
STU: The independents are 44% satisfied with the crop of candidates and 55% not satisfied.
GLENN: Total sense to me. Makes total sense.
STU: That doesn't -- I was a little surprised because I thought McCain was -- yeah, he was supposed to be the independent candidate. I don't know that he is.
GLENN: But I think McCain, I just think McCain, because he's up against Barack Obama, he looks like Bob Dole. Remember, I loved Bob Dole. I thought Bob Dole was a good guy. I thought he was a strong conservative. I liked him. I liked him a lot. But next to Bill Clinton he just looked like, you know, grandpa. Ronald Reagan never looked like grandpa. He pulled that off well. Ronald Reagan always pulled that off well, and he wasn't running next to somebody who looks like, you know, he just got off the basketball court and he's 12. You know what I mean?
STU: Yeah, Obama just looks, he's in shape.
GLENN: Yeah, he just looks healthy, he just looks -- I mean, honestly he just looks like a guy who's just like, whew, I just got off the tennis court, man, what, we're doing a debate? What? You know what I mean?
STU: Yeah. It's clearly a huge -- I mean, clearly the Democrats are the only party that have realized we don't just have radio anymore.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: We have television now and apparently there's only one party that recognizes that. But what I find is absolutely amazing is the Republicans, how satisfied are you with you are current candidate. 24% satisfied, 76% not satisfied.
GLENN: You know what this comes from? This is proof positive that we should have runoffs after -- if you don't get -- you should have to get 50%. You should have to get 50%. If you don't get 50%, you've got another one. This is, you know, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani. Because nobody, nobody that I know of was picking John McCain. Now, I know obviously he was picked, but he was picked, I believe, because everybody else was splitting it. You know, there's a bad history of people getting to power with 30% of the vote. Now we've got Republicans with 24% solidarity behind John McCain. 24% say they're happy with John McCain.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: That's because everybody was splitting it earlier. Because we had a whole field of really good candidates and we split it up. The Democrats didn't have what we had. I thought we had some really good choices in there. People were passionate about those choices and it ends up that we're sitting here with the guy everyone is the least passionate about.