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GLENN: You're telling me that the country that embraced this really, truly understood drill for more oil in ANWR? No.
STU: This was out as we voted for it and then the stupid President Clinton vetoed it.
GLENN: No, this is -- oh.
STU: Maybe he vetoed it because of this.
GLENN: This is where -- this is where, when we were in our cars and we turned on the radio, we should have known Jesus is coming soon, within -- when did this come out?
DAN: That would be 1996.
STU: I mean, you can't judge -- clearly we were gone by this time.
GLENN: Jesus in 16 years. From right -- that's when it would have been on the radio. Yep, 16-year warning.
STU: She is laughing, Glenn.
GLENN: I can't take it.
STU: You've got to think she's having a good time.
GLENN: Can't take it.
STU: She's having a good time, she's getting into it. Kind of nice.
GLENN: You know this song, was it from the Nineties or the 2000s? What was it? I hate the -- you know back in the old days when our great, great-grandparents were around? They called is the oughts. We don't have that.
STU: That's amazing. We went through the --
GLENN: We're almost through the decade and we don't know how to say it, the 2000s, back in the -- we don't have anything. Our grandparents -- that's another sign. That's another sign. Our grandparents figured it out! In ought one, in ought two. Can you imagine hearing somebody say that? Why? Why is that so bad? It makes sense. Instead we're like in the 2000s. That's 100-year span. That's a 1,000-year span!
STU: Yeah, we definitely failed. We failed as a society and I think Macarena proves that. I'm just saying the point of when we turned over is, I don't think you're right to say it's in the Eighties at all. I think it was long gone before that. I mean, you -- it's -- this is what I want. I want a full and open, honest debate about when the turnover was. I want 17,000 town hall meetings scheduled every 90 minutes until we figure this out because this is important.
GLENN: If I said no, would I be dodging that debate?
STU: Yes, of course you'd be dodging that debate.
GLENN: I'd be dodging that debate. I will give you that it's not Macarena, but I believe the end of all society started with Rapper's Delight.
STU: With Rapper's Delight?
GLENN: Rapper's Delight.
STU: Well, that's the Seventies.
GLENN: I know. That was just a, that was a coming echo. That was like, ooh, trouble.
STU: Is this any deeper than you just don't like rap?
GLENN: Nope, nope.
STU: This is a legitimate viewpoint. I'm just trying to get to the bottom.
GLENN: No, it is legitimate. It's legitimate.
STU: You think rap in particular, dancing rap about dinner at a friend's house is what ended the society?
GLENN: Uh-huh, Rapper's Delight. Play it. Do you have it? Sugar, Sugarhill Gang, Sugar -- stop just a second.
Dan, I have to question. How do you just happen to have that ready so rapidly?
DAN: Well, I don't know this is an issue we need to dive into at this point in time. I think we can just continue with your point and not get sidetracked. We only have a couple of minutes left here in the segment and I think --
STU: It's a very large computer system.
DAN: Thank you, Stu.
GLENN: Go ahead. See, right here. Driving in our car, we should have said, this is trouble, this is going to lead to nowhere good.
STU: If you've got a guy who --
GLENN: I liked this at the time.
STU: It's like 30 minutes long, too.
GLENN: No, I know. I liked this at the time.
STU: This is the short version, trust me. It's not 5:01.
GLENN: I liked this song when it came out, but we should have known better. We should have said this is not going to end well. This is like when it's funny, when you're watching your kids and they're running, you know, they're running with the croquet ball.
STU: The croquet ball? What kind of reference is that?
GLENN: Well, I just, it's a very painful reference because it was very funny when Raphe was holding the croquet ball and he was trying to use it as a baseball and I said, no, son, it's not a base -- and then he hit me in the head with it. What I'm saying is, we should have known then it's not going to end well.
STU: I disagree. When you can sing a song about not liking a meal at a friend's house, that is --
GLENN: Is that really what this song is about?
STU: Well, it gets there. He goes to his friend's house and the food is not good and he doesn't -- he wants to be nice because it's his buddy but he has to -- at the end it's too disgusting.
GLENN: I'm just saying that I believe this may -- I'm going to drop this marker in the water that this may have been the turning point.
STU: I want to fold debate, particularly lists.
GLENN: Bring it on.
GLENN: No, now see Stu says that this is a sign of the end times.
STU: A little bit. It's hard to deny.
GLENN: I mean, who doesn't like MMMBop.
STU: You'd be surprised at the amount of people who would raise their hand.
GLENN: Yeah, but a lot of people in their college years, guys, had MMMBop posters on their wall.
STU: No one had that -- you don't have an example of someone who --
GLENN: Oh, yeah. Dan Andros.
STU: Dan Andros?
GLENN: The producer of the program here.
STU: How old are you?
DAN: Look, it worked at the time and I stand by it.
STU: It worked at the time what, to lure teenage boys?
GLENN: He was a very big fan of Hanson and now he's met Chris Hansen, the older brother.