Glenn: Let's go to Corey in Texas. Hello, Corey.
Caller: Hey. How's it going, Glenn?
Glenn: A good. How are you?
Caller: I finally got through. I've been listening to your show for years.
Glenn: Well, thank you, sir.
Caller: All right. My point. Let me go ahead and get to it. What I was going to say, I'm going to have to go against Stu on this one and say that
Caller: reading is very important. Not a surprise, right? You knew it was coming.
Stu: I don't pretend to be in the majority here.
Glenn: Stu said during the break, why am I all of the sudden the anti reading expert? I said, because there's no one else in the category, Stu.
Caller: Well, my point is was they do have the movies out there of the books, but reading it for yourself for the first time without seeing the movie or anybody else's interpretation allows your imagination to go on its own, take the information that they are giving you and you form your own imagination around the whole story and it makes it that much more exciting to the reader to be able to read those words, case in point, Stephen King, not long ago I read the Dark Towers series, all seven books.
Glenn: No. Stephen King, you cannot name the movie that they have made of Stephen King's that is as good as the book. You cannot make a movie
Stu: It's certainly been the alternate of that, though. Thereof certainly been bad books that have inspired good movies.
Glenn: Yeah, there has been, but what I'm saying is they have to edit it down, they have to, you know
Glenn: to condense it. You look at the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter movies I like, but they're not in depth, they're not as good as the book and I have to tell you, my daughter won't go see the Harry Potter movies because she and I just love it she said my imagination is better than anybody that any movie company can do. I like my imagination and I don't want them to wreck what I have in my head. God bless her.
Stu: But that's the same commentary you've been offering about radio for years and it also works with radio. It works with the spoken word. Many of my like, for example, we've been talking about faith and things of that nature. Most of my, you know, spiritual revelations over the years have come from speakers, people looking at that and describing it in a different way and putting new perspective on things that I've heard 100 times and maybe read 100 times, but they put it in a different way that's hit me harder and all that stuff happens not just necessarily from books but it comes from all different ways. That's my only argument. Books certainly do provide that. They're just not the only thing that provide it and we seem to.
Glenn: I never said that.
Stu: I'm not saying you. I'm saying the encouragement of reading, no one ever says we encourage you to get to the Internet and reading.
Glenn: Because the Internet it rising. Reading it going down.
Stu: But the Internet is providing different things. It's just in a different medium.
Glenn: No, it is not providing the same thing.
Stu: It is.
Glenn: It certainly is not, but that is not why the Internet is rising. It is not rising because we can access the Library of Congress.
Stu: I didn't say that.
Glenn: We can access porn.
Stu: That's out there, too, but it's also in book form. The Penthouse Letters have been around for quite a long time.
Glenn: And they are as big in books as they are on the Internet.
Stu: Right. Because the Internet is as effective of getting things to people. So is television and so is movies. Now, you can say movies and television, you try to do this. We try to do this all the time. That's what our industry is. We try to give things that you can get in other ways and we try to present it in a slightly different way. We try to evolve the medium, but we need to get used to it here. This the bottom line is kids
Glenn: Nobody is saying that we read everything in old English.
Stu: That's not what I'm saying.
Glenn: You're saying evolve the medium.
Stu: I'm saying evolve the medium into if you don't like that, we get two short busts of it, look at the Internet, you can get anything you want. Come up with ways to present it in an interesting fashion in that format, as well. It's not just books. That's all I'm arguing. I'm staying right there, in that corner.
Glenn: But that argument doesn't work because you're missing part of it. You're right, Stu. You should, like our last book, you take information from a lot of different sources and you compile it and you make it interesting and you make it you make it something that a 20 year old can walk into a book store and relate to. Okay?
Stu: Uh huh.
Glenn: That is what we did with "An Inconvenient Book." We tried to evolve the medium and condense a bunch of stuff and make it not academic.
Glenn: We did it. Wonderful. But you know what? There's you're missing the other part of it that it expands I'm not saying your intelligence. It expands the way you think. It expands you know, it's your brain is a muscle. Your creativity is a muscle. You know when I went to see Peter Max, you know who he is, the artist?
Glenn: Peter Max found out that he was painting) he is a contemporary of Andy Warhol, a blah, blah, blah. He listens and he says, Glenn, you've got to come over. Let me just show you how to expand your creativity.
Glenn: . I went over to his I went over to his, you know, his townhouse here where he works, his painting. He has rooms full of puzzles. They're books that he made of just puzzles. They're not for anybody else and what he did is the first page starts with a sketch and then he has to take that sketch and turn it into as many different things as he possibly can without violating the patterns in it. It is he said, Glenn, you really want to expand your mind? Do this for creatively do this for awhile. You'll be able to see an empty canvas and you'll be able to paint anything because your mind will work differently. You'll see a vase in 600 different ways. It was brilliant. The same thing can be said with creativity in speaking, in imagining, in conversation, because you are using your brain in a different way. There's nothing wrong with using your brain the way television does, but I can guarantee you, if we did, you know, what is it, a CAT scan where it lights up those certain parts of your brain, I can guarantee you that the parts of your brain that lights up when you're reading a good novel or a really good book, where you're really in and your imagination is lighting up, I guarantee your brain lights up in a different way than it does on television or movies or the Internet. It is using something different and that is important to use all of it, to expand all of it and exercise it. It is a muscle that has to be exercised and if you don't if you don't have kids that can think out of the box, if you don't have kids that can have imagined different things, well, where do the new ideas come from? You have to be able to imagine different ideas. That's not exclusively a book realm, but we have so little time now, we don't ponder things in the world anymore because there's no time. Everything is a wall of cacophony that is coming your way. You don't Stu's lost interest.
Stu: I have may have tuned out a little bit. My point is, as you said, we have such little time, why are we taking the slowest delivery system?
Glenn: Because sometimes there is nothing when have you ever had an idea in the heat of the moment? All my ideas come from when I have that time, I've been working, working, working really hard trying to solve a problem. 2:00 in the morning or, you know, 8:00 when I have breakfast, I'll drop the fork and I'll go, oh, my gosh, there it is. Pondering, slowing down at times is the most important thing you can do for creativity.