Don Fowler Amused by New Orleans Hurricane
Michael Moore Thanks God for Hurricane Gustav
GLENN: Also, something else that I find absolutely incredible. Can we play the audio, please, of Michael Moore on Keith Olbermann. Here's the dynamic duo.
MOORE: Good evening, Keith, thanks for having me back. I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven. To have it planned at the same time. I
GLENN: Stop. We don't need to hear anymore. Here is Michael Moore laughing about Gustav. I mean, I love the fact that the only time there's proof that there's a God is when he kills a bunch of people, apparently for an election. Can you imagine? I mean, what was it after 9/11 when somebody came out and said who was it that came out and said was it Falwell that came out and said, this is punishment, yet it's a funny joke when they say it. They are, of course, the party of real compassion, but behind the scenes and now apparently in front of the camera, and nobody seems to care, they can say whatever they want. They can joke about people dying as a payback during the election. It's amazing.
Now, the former chair of the DNC, he was the chairperson of the DNC between 1995 and 1997. His name is Donald Fowler. He was on a plane and he was coming back from the convention and this audio is very, very difficult to hear, but we should include this in the newsletter today so you can actually see it, but here is the audio of him on the plane talking about the hurricane.
GLENN: Okay. What he's saying here is, plus I think the hurricane's going to hit, and he starts to laugh New Orleans about the time the Republicans start. The timing, at least as it appears now, it will be there on Monday. That just demonstrates that God is on our side. You want to talk about arrogance, it's not just the arrogance that he would say something like this but he would also say it in a public space on an airplane coming back from the convention. I don't know, but he's probably not the only political person on the plane. Sitting right behind him is Caleb Howe. He's from redstate.com and Caleb is on the phone with us. And Caleb, you are the guy, you were sitting right behind Fowler.
HOWE: I was.
GLENN: How did that did you switch seats? How did that happen?
HOWE: That was just coincidence. I was just sitting in my seat and Congressman Spratt sat directly in front of me and Fowler sat across the aisle in front of me.
GLENN: Okay. And did you have like a little Flip Video or how did you record this?
HOWE: Just a handheld camera, you know, a single shot camera.
GLENN: Okay. So you're and did you position it some place? Where did you position the camera?
HOWE: I just, yeah, I just sat it right on my knee. You know, when they came on the plane, they were clearly holding the audience, speaking very loud. Fowler was the one to whom all they were deferring and they were putting on a show. So I thought, well, this is going to be good. So I pulled out my camera and turned it on.
GLENN: Okay. And how much conversation happened prior to what you captured?
HOWE: Just a few minutes. Mostly trashing Sarah Palin.
GLENN: And what were they saying about Sarah Palin?
HOWE: Congressman Spratt called her just terrible. Fowler said she really had nothing to offer; they picked her just because she was a female, she was he called her Quayle on steroids.
GLENN: All right. So you had that. And then you heard Fowler say what he said.
HOWE: That's right.
GLENN: And what was the describe the scene a little bit.
HOWE: Well, you know, he had people sitting around turned paying attention to him and he was putting on his big show and he started laughing and everybody said along with. And, you know, when he said this is just proof that God is on our side, everybody was nodding in agreement and chuckling to themselves widely and everybody generally seemed to accept the premise.
GLENN: Did you ever introduce yourself?
HOWE: I did not, no. Although Congressman Spratt's wife did notice my Reagan shirt I was wearing at the time and give me a funny look. So...
GLENN: Now, you went right away and you posted this video.
GLENN: And then you were called how long was it before you were called a right wing nut job?
HOWE: A little less than 48 hours. It was about a day and a half.
GLENN: So it took a day and a half for them to come up with something as clever as that.
HOWE: That's right.
GLENN: So all you did, all you did was post the video of them saying, "God is on our side, that's why he's sending a hurricane to New Orleans" and you're the nut job.
HOWE: That's right.
GLENN: Just wanted to make sure I got that right.
HOWE: Yeah, that's exactly how it happened.
GLENN: Caleb, what has has there been any actual reaction from this other than just name calling? Has there been any reaction on either side? What are people saying?
HOWE: Well, I mean, I'm up here in St. Paul and a lot of people have seen the video. Most of the people who I'm with think he was being a real jerk, and the South Carolina GOP chairman made a statement. So, you know, it's got a little bit of splash. But you don't see a lot of outrage, certainly not online. I mean, you go to the left wing websites, they are not on there decrying him the way it would be if it was a reverse situation.
GLENN: Sure. Can you even imagine, imagine.
HOWE: I know, imagine that.
GLENN: Caleb, what do you think of the you know, the blog, the blogosphere is just on fire today and has been all weekend with Sarah Palin.
HOWE: It is, yes.
GLENN: And the pictures of her daughter which came out over the weekend. And I mean, I looked at it. My wife and I, we sat next to each other and we were looking at the Internet and we looked at the pictures and I mean, I think my wife almost broke out in tears. And I did as well as a dad. Then I come to find out that the pictures that they were showing of Sarah Palin's daughter were two years old. So not even possible that she was even pregnant at the time. So her daughter just had a little belly fat there.
HOWE: Right, right, which they were shredding her for online.
GLENN: Absolutely unbelievable. As a blogger, where's the line here, Caleb?
HOWE: Well, you know, I mean, this story originated at Daily Coast and my experience is they really don't have a line if it involves Republicans. I mean, they will cross any line. They will certainly attack a 17 year old if they think it's going to benefit them in even a small way during the election which is you know, which is exactly what they did.
GLENN: Do you believe that there's a line? Is there something that you have come across, let's say on the other sredstate.comide that you've said and don't tell me what it is, but you've said, absolutely not.
HOWE: I've never come across anything like that, but I know there is a line and I think most of the bloggers on our side, certainly at redstate know that there's a line that we wouldn't cross. This is one of those. I mean, we certainly wouldn't be attacking a child and saying, "You know, I don't know, she's pretty fat, she must have been pregnant, I think Sarah Palin's a liar."
HOWE: When they have to know it was a ridiculous story but they posted it anyway.
GLENN: They are not even saying "We think." They're saying "We know."
GLENN: In fact, I just read something from Andrew Sullivan from The Atlantic and he is I mean, he is just he's demanding the medical records for Trig. He is saying, let's have them, let's let us talk to the obstetrician, let's have the medical records. Oh, my gosh, you've got to be kidding me.
HOWE: He's really gone off the edge. You know, he's in the tank for Obama so bad that that's his new religion and I mean, I'm not even surprised with anything Sullivan does anymore.
GLENN: All right. Well, Caleb, just unbelievable video and, of course, that's not going to get any you know, it's not going to get the kind of play that it would be if that video were having the Republicans say something like that.
HOWE: That's right. Of course not.
GLENN: Yeah. All right, Caleb, thanks a lot.
HOWE: Thank you.
GLENN: You bet, bye bye. That's from redstate.com.