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GLENN: Yes, from Texas. Go ahead, Sabra.
CALLER: Yes, I was wanting to tell you, Glenn, thanks for being middle class today, for mentioning the word and being middle class.
GLENN: Okay. Gee, that's an odd way to phrase that. I talk about America and not just the middle class all the time, Sabra.
CALLER: I know.
GLENN: Why would you mention it that way?
CALLER: Well, I just not to offend. I was just wanting to tell you I appreciate it and that I was I don't really know what is what makes middle class and I was wanting to ask you a few questions.
GLENN: Sure. This doesn't sound like a setup at all, Sabra. Just you know what, let's stop playing the games. Just say what you want to say, Sabra. It's okay to have an opinion. You don't have to trap anybody. You don't have to be cute. Just say what you mean and mean what you say.
CALLER: Well, no, I was just wondering
GLENN: Yeah, stop with your wondering. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
CALLER: All right.
GLENN: Make your point.
CALLER: All right. My I was wondering
GLENN: Yes.
CALLER: Do you ride a train to work?
GLENN: Do I ride a train to work?
CALLER: Uh huh.
GLENN: Sabra, say what you mean and mean what you say. Are you trying to insinuate that I'm not middle class because I never claimed to be middle class.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
GLENN: I'm sorry my gosh, the fake surprise coming from you. Sabra, have a conversation as a human being. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
CALLER: All right. Well, I didn't mean to offend at all.
GLENN: You are not offending. You're wasting time. This is what politicians do. Stop being a robot. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
CALLER: Okay. I was feeling middle class myself and you were
GLENN: What does it what do you mean you were feeling middle class?
CALLER: Well, I believe I'm middle class as well and so and I was
GLENN: As well as who?
CALLER: Of you.
GLENN: I'm not middle class. I grew up lower middle class. I have been middle class my whole life. I'm now successful and make a good living. So I wouldn't put myself in the middle class category. You'd have to go to somebody like Joe Biden to find real middle class.
CALLER: Because he rides the train.
GLENN: That's his claim, yes.
CALLER: Okay. And has he lived in the Midwest, do you think he's lived in the Midwest where the
GLENN: What is the point, Sabra?
CALLER: Well, I was just wondering middle class, since Mr. Biden is middle class, I'm just confused what middle class means.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, I think everybody is confused what middle class means. I think everybody is confused with what middle class means and everybody's trying to everybody's trying to put everybody into a middle class box. Everybody's trying to be that middle class person. Here's my definition of middle class, somebody who busts their ass every single day to put food on their table, somebody who is just struggling every single day to make it through the day to be able to get your kids down into bed and safe, somebody who's fighting for their family every single day of their life. I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with income. I think it has everything to do with a mindset. Somebody who is trying just to live the American dream. Does the American dream stop at a certain income level? Does it start at a certain income level? Stop with the categories! Stop telling me about the middle class! The middle class is shrinking. There it is. "See, I told you! The middle class is shrinking!" Yeah. I'm pulling this off the top of my head but I believe it's 11%, it might be 13%. It shrunk by 11%. Fortunately for that class the upper class grew by 11%. The idea is we should be encouraging people to get out of the lower class into the middle class and the middle class into the upper class. The idea is to fatten the upper class. The middle class is shrinking. Now, why are we setting up a system where we are trapping the lower class? How are we trapping them? We're trapping them by telling them, "You'll never make it. You'll never make it. You've got to have me to do it." That is a ruling class! And it is strange that it's always the politician upper class that's doing it. It's always people like Michael Moore or Barbra Streisand that somehow or another have you seen the nose on that woman? somehow or another one of the ugliest movie stars out there since Lon Cheney in makeup, made it! How? How did she make it? How is she hosting this $28,500 a plate dinner tonight? Because she worked hard. She took her God given talents and she never said she never said never. She just did it. But once she did it, then she started telling everybody, you can't do it. You can't do it. You know one of the most amazing stories I've read in a long time, do you know about Helen Keller? Everybody learns that Helen Keller was this great woman, "Oh, she did it herself." First of all, she wasn't the first woman to do it. I mean, I can't believe I'm taking down Helen Keller today, but the woman was a communist. By the time she was 25, full fledged communist, supporting Lenin and everything else he was doing. And she was then preaching, "You can't do it." Helen Keller was saying you can't do it, you can't make it? Why is it that all of a sudden the people who have come from the bottom make it and then all of a sudden try to tell everybody else that they can make it? I don't understand. Oh, maybe I do. It's about power.
Let me go to Bill. Hello, Bill, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
CALLER: Hi, Glenn. I'm just wondering... when you say... Joe Biden... and you say middle class, I just... I'm just sitting here wondering... in the middle, in the central... let's say 0.5
GLENN: All right, thank you very much for your phone call.
(Break)
GLENN: Yes?
CALLER: Hi. Glenn?
GLENN: Yes.
CALLER: This Glenn Beck?
GLENN: Yes, it is.
CALLER: I was just listening to your show and you said something about Joe Biden being middle class (laughing)?
GLENN: Yes, caller, get to your point.
CALLER: So you're saying Joe Biden, middle
GLENN: No, Joe Biden said he was middle class.
CALLER: (Laughing). Okay, you're saying
GLENN: No.
CALLER: I'm just wondering
GLENN: No, no, Joe Biden said that he was
CALLER: I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering, okay? You're saying middle like 50%, you're saying it?
GLENN: No, I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it.
CALLER: You are talking about the middle class, right?
GLENN: Joe Biden. You are talking about the middle class.
STU: (Laughing).
GLENN: I mean, this woman I mean, please, please don't play the political games, please. I'm a professional at this. You're not. This is like you know, this is like somebody coming up, you know, the guy working the jackhammer going, "Hey, I bet I can work that." No, really this is what I do for a living. I do this for a living. I'm going to be able to spot this a million miles away. Really. So let's just cut to the chase. Can't we just talk as human beings? Can't we? Just don't play the games.
Hang on.
STU: (Laughing). You're talked about medium class, aren't you? Like the same amount of people on one side of the class is the same amount as the other? You are saying that? I just want to make sure I understand. Wait, hold on. Classes? What classes did you ever take? (Laughing).
GLENN: (Laughing). Oh, golly.