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GRAMMER: Hi, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Very good. I have run into you in the street several times. You are always with your family. I see you on the street all the time.

GRAMMER: Oh, no kidding. Which streets?

GLENN: Which streets? You know, the streets you hang out on. So -- 

GRAMMER: Listen, I've become quite a fan of yours. I think you are doing a hell of a job.

GLENN: Thank you very much.

GRAMMER: Please come up and say hi next time.

GLENN: I will. How are you feeling, first of all.

GRAMMER: I feel great. I had a pretty severe, you know, situation back in May and then I had a little bit of a redo, a do-over in August which ended up putting a pacemaker in me. So that's okay. You know, I mean, it's a little bit of an adjustment but frankly I feel strong and good and I've lost a little weight and I'm not eating salt anymore.

GLENN: Jeez. You know, did you ever think -- when they're starting to tell you about, you know, the food that you can't eat anymore, do you ever think, I don't know.

GRAMMER: You know what, they've really come up with some great, a lot of colorful and rewarding food options. So it's really not horrible.

GLENN: Colorful? What do you mean?

GRAMMER: Colorful and rewarding. Well, you know, I first had -- I had my heart attack on the island of Hawaii. I ended up on Oahu, Queens Medical Center, a really advanced, great facility, especially the intensive care unit. They had prepared their own cookbook because apparently a lot of Hawaiians have heart trouble and I guess it has something to do with their diet and in some cases massive size.

GLENN: You couldn't think of the diet. They are eating fish all the time.

GRAMMER: Yeah, but all that other stuff that goes with it. Until last year it was the Spam-eating capital of the world.



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GLENN: Was it really?

GRAMMER: Yeah, yeah.

GLENN: You live in paradise and you're eating Spam? That kind of stinks.

GRAMMER: You know what, there's just something about it.

GLENN: Kelsey, last night I saw American Carol.

GRAMMER: Oh, you did?

GLENN: You are brilliant in it. I'm trying to remember his name. The lead character, yeah, surprisingly looks so much like his brother but, you know, usually when the brother comes along, you are like, okay, not so good. Really, really good.

GRAMMER: Very funny. Wonderful guy, too. He's got a warmth and a charm and honestly, I mean I really think we've served Michael Malone much better than he would have served us or Michael Moore.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

GRAMMER: You start to really like the guy. Even for standing up for what he believes in, you know?

GLENN: I thought it -- obviously I thought it was a little too fair quite honestly.

GRAMMER: Maybe that's true.

GLENN: Have you seen the finished piece yet?

GRAMMER: I have only seen a rough cut that had a water mark over the top of it. So, you know, it looked like an illegally distributed thing that, you must show this to no one and blah, blah, blah. It looked like crap on my television.

GLENN: I will tell you this, Kelsey. When I watched it last night, I think there are some real "Laugh out loud" parts, but did you ever think as watching it or doing it that there are parts that, that ain't just -- that's just not funny because it's true.

GRAMMER: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, a lot of the stuff, you come back as Patton and, you know, he's sitting there with a rat eating pizza which is just hysterical but, you know, you come back as Patton and the stuff that you guys put in there, it's almost, in some ways I want my kids to watch it because it's true.

GRAMMER: Yeah. If it weren't true, it would be funny. But it is and that's the thing. So there are definitely some moments that impact you. Certainly the moment where George Washington says "Dust" took my breath away when I read it even. It was just, oh, my God. But, of course, I don't know how much time you spent there right after the bombing but when the towers went down, I went a couple of times in that first month and it was as devastating as anything I've ever seen in my life and I don't like people feeling the distance that they feel from it and I don't like the complications that the political climate has sort of, you know, heaped on top of it. It's a pretty simple thing. We were blasted big time and that's not something that goes away and it's not -- there's no way to just have it go away without fighting it.

GLENN: You know, I've said it a million times. I went to the towers right after they came down and it's the only thing -- because they were still -- you know, they were still looking for people and then the smoke was billowing. It's the only thing that I've ever done that in some ways I'm glad I saw it because I'll never, ever forget but it's also the thing that I wish I wouldn't have seen. I'll never get that out of my mind. I can still smell it.

GRAMMER: Yeah, me, too.

GLENN: Do you feel that way?

GRAMMER: Me, too, absolutely. No, it's an indelible mark. We cannot allow people to forget about it. And I guess in some ways, to the people who died there as well as the people that gave their lives in trying to help others and what will be I think an eternal vigil at least by Americans that remember. You know how we have to stay vigilant.

GLENN: Do you -- the opening scene where -- you are not in it yet but where the Al-Qaeda members, they are up on a hill and they say -- 

GRAMMER: This is the virtue of the film. We have kept one of our greatest arrows in our quiver, let us say. Because Hollywood definitely has. Is to go after these people with humor. I mean, I constantly think about, you know, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, like Road to Baghdad, stuff like that.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

GRAMMER: We've forgotten that we can do this. I think the greatest weapon against these guys honestly is to make fun of them, is to ridicule them. And what we discover in the American Carol is that this is a bunch of inept idiots who some are clinging to a really warped ideology and the rest are kind of just being dragged along. I love the guys in it. I mean, I love our terrorists and our jihadists.

GLENN: I love the one that's voting. He is in line, he's a terrorist and he's in line. He's like, what are you doing voting, you are not supposed to do this? And he said, I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. It's just great. Do you think, are you worried at all about backlash in a couple of ways? First of all, the opening scene where it is Mohammed and everybody stands up and they are like, no, no, no, I mean Hussein, and everybody stands up. Are you worried at all about the -- about political correctness?

GRAMMER: No. The great cover of the movie is that it is a Dave and Zucker movie and they have never been politically correct, nor should they be. I mean, this is the style that David and his brother championed of course but now they have split on the basis of politics and it's just David on his own. But no, no, I mean, you know, he has never, he has never pulled his punches in terms of being politically incorrect and I think that's to his credit.

GLENN: Did you see Sarah Palin last night?

GRAMMER: Yes, I did.

GLENN: Do you mind talking about it a little bit when we come back?

GRAMMER: Don't mind at all.

GLENN: Okay, good. Back with Kelsey Grammer in just a minute and your phone calls. The number's 888-727-BECK. And if you missed any of the show today, a lot of really important stuff on the show today. Please go back and grab it online at GlennBeck.com or you can sign up for our free e-mail newsletter.

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GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. Opening this weekend, an American Carol. It's a spoof from Zucker which, the guy, the maker of Airplane and all the rest and it is, they are laugh out loud, mainly when Michael Moore's getting hit in the face by Kelsey Grammer or an have anvil or an oar or et cetera, et cetera better there are laugh out loud parts in this movie. It will make you feel good. It's for conservatives. Boy, it is a vet movie but a lot of parts you are thinking, he I can't, that's exactly how I feel. We're talking to Kelsey Grammer and what did you think of the -- what did you think of the debate last night with Sarah Palin?

GRAMMER: Well, of course, I watched and I am -- you know, I was cautiously optimistic about Sarah Palin and I certainly am blown away by her when she spoke at the convention.

GLENN: She was great.

GRAMMER: I think she could be a formidable politician in the years to come. I think she's got enough time to fully, you know, sort of cocoon herself and emerge as the butterfly that she can be. I am very impressed with her. I thought she held her own against Joe Biden who clearly is, you know, more knowledgeable about a lot of things. But honestly he made a lot of misrepresentations on the partisan scale, so to say.

GLENN: And he may be more knowledgeable but he's wrong on a lot of issues.

GRAMMER: That's what I said. I listened to his diatribe about John McCain's voting record and I said that's not true. There were several that are not true and I hope you guys are doing your job in correcting him. I mean, I know the left has stopped listening to voices like yours and certainly not mine but I think rational Americans do remember. I mean, one of my chief objections to this whole financial crisis thing is that we haven't hung this albatross around the necks of the Democrats. I mean, honestly this is Democrat-inspired policy. There's no question about it. I mean, the Republicans jumped on board and it was certainly popular.

GLENN: Yeah.

GRAMMER: But there were those, especially John McCain, that said, hey, wait a minute, you know, we're in a world of trouble here.

GLENN: Why do you suppose they're not doing that? I mean, they didn't even do it last night. Sarah Palin did not -- she should have said, look, I -- 

GRAMMER: I think John McCain has taken the stance that he's not going to do tit for tat in terms of a political harangue.

GLENN: You don't -- I don't want tit for tat but I do want someone to understand. The media is not uncovering this. The media is not doing it. When Charlie Rangel was in the well of the House lecturing on how important this bill is, I'm thinking, Charlie Rangel? You've got to be kidding me.

GRAMMER: You've got to be kidding me. I mean, it seems absolutely unbelievable. I mean, I listened to Barney Frank and I thought, why aren't we just running this guy out of town.

GLENN: This guy, you know the name, Andrew Fastow.

GRAMMER: Yeah.

GLENN: Ken lay?

GRAMMER: Come on, these guys should be going down. Honestly I can't believe, he's one of the biggest recipients from these failed organizations. It's just disingenuous to the extreme and I find it incredible that they stand there and even, you know, just sort of face it out that they're, you know, under scrutiny. But somehow they're ducking that bullet.

GLENN: So let me ask you something because you're an actor. You can act and you can do things and say things that you don't believe and you're like, well, I'm acting, I'm doing a movie, I can sleep at night, right?

GRAMMER: Yeah.

GLENN: How do these people say these things and sleep at night?

GRAMMER: I don't know because honestly, you know, an actor's job is to actually lend a sense of truth to whatever fantasy's been written for him honestly. And actors are terrible liars. I mean, they are really good actors don't know how to lie. They accept, they discover the truth of the character that they are playing, but these guys are charlatans, these guys are hustlers. I find it, it's reprehensible. Honestly the folks from the other side of the aisle, they've got to clean house. They talk about all this integrity and, you know, graft among politicians. They are living, breathing examples of it. It's just been horrifying to me.

GLENN: Where do you think we are as a nation today? If we don't wake up soon, we don't turn our lives around, where do you think we are as nation?

GRAMMER: We're in a crisis of a Civil War basically, just not a shooting one. That's been my feeling for some time now. I was honestly, I said it years ago but I mean, the guy that did anything to really bring us together was Osama Bin Laden and that's a pretty awful situation. And, you know, when people were going down in those planes, and I knew several people on board, they weren't Republicans and Democrats. They were Americans. And I attended several memorials where actually they were used as opportunities to punch George Bush around and I thought, already? This is already happening? I mean, there's a sickness. It's like decay from the inside, and it scares the hell out of me. I mean, otherwise rational, you know, cordial human beings have lost their minds about -- I recently spoke at one of these McCain campaign things and I said simply that in my community it has been impossible since George Bush was elected to have anything but a tortured and dysfunctional conversation. I mean, it's as though we stand in completely different worlds and that does still make me nervous.

GLENN: But we do. You know, to kind of go off on your Civil War thing, I was, two weekends ago I met with a guy who was I believe the first person to say a global terror network. That was his phrase. And he said this is not -- we're treating this like a police action. This is not. This is a global terror network. And I said to him, I asked him, you know, where are we in our history, where do you think we are. And he said, people don't understand. We're in 1860.

GRAMMER: Oh, yeah. There you go.

GLENN: We've got to have a leader that steps to the plate that says united we stand, divided we fall, and can actually unite us.

GRAMMER: Yeah.

GLENN: Do you think there's a chance that Barack Obama can unite us? Do you think that's possible?

GRAMMER: Well, certainly that's been his rhetoric but, you know, his actions are all, at least the policies will just drive wedges between us. I mean, that's the problem. As soon as you start to criminalize success in this country, you are taking a big jump to the kind of country that I don't believe in and that's going to be very hard. That's going to be very hard to, you know, stuff down most of our throats because I'm all for doing my patriotic duty which has been always when I had a good year, the U.S. Government had a better year. I have never paid less than half my salary to the U.S. I think that's patriotic enough in terms of my donation to the wellbeing of the federal government.

GLENN: Yeah. Kelsey, I would say I -- 

GRAMMER: I do not know if he's the guy. I like the way he talks but I just doubt he has the juice to make it happen. Or even the will to really make it happen. I think that under the veneer we see is the gentleman who really does have very little regard for those of us on the right.

GLENN: I will tell you that I think you are doing your patriotic duty with this movie. As I watched -- 

GRAMMER: That's nicely brought back around.

GLENN: We're running out of time unfortunately. I'd love to talk to you anytime again, but as I was watching it, part of the unfunny part for me was watching me going, where are these movies, where have these movies been. You know, where you love America, where it's okay to say you love America, we're if good guys.

GRAMMER: It's time for that slack a little bit and all of us really have a right to.

GLENN: Kelsey, what a pleasure, sir, and we'll talk again.

GRAMMER: Thanks, Glenn.

GLENN: American Carol opens up this weekend.

Christmas is the gift that keeps on giving for radical leftists. This charade goes on year after year, where decent folks across America try to enjoy and celebrate Christmas, and a few militant progressives disapprove. It's exhausting. We get it, you don't like Christmas. And that's totally fine. But entire communities of people who do like to celebrate Christmas are tired of their celebration being held hostage by an extreme minority—sometimes just one person—getting offended.

This year, a self-described “Unintentional Grinch who stole Christmas" is in the lead to win Scrooge of the Year. The principal at Manchester Elementary in Omaha, Nebraska sent her teachers a memo this week outlining all the Christmas-related items and activities that will not be allowed in their classrooms.

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The banned list includes:

  • Santa
  • Christmas trees
  • Elf on the Shelf
  • Singing Christmas carols
  • Playing Christmas music
  • Making an ornament as a gift
  • Any red and green items
  • Reindeer
  • And, of course, candy canes. Not because the sugar will make the children hyper, but because, as the principal explains, the candy cane is shaped like a “J" for Jesus.

She writes, “the red is for the blood of Christ, and the white is a symbol of his resurrection." In case you try to cheat, different-colored candy canes are not allowed either.

Why is this principal going out of her way to delete any trace of Christmas in her school? She explains:

“I come from a place that Christmas and the like are not allowed in schools…"

Her list, “aligns with my interpretation of our expectations as a public school who seeks to be inclusive and culturally sensitive to all of our students."

What about being culturally sensitive toward students who do celebrate Christmas?

Kids will survive if they're accidentally exposed to a Santa.

The irony here, for this principal and others who hate Christmas and the Christianity that undergirds it, is that Christmas has long existed on two parallel tracks. You've got the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ on one, and you've got the Santa Claus, secular mythology on the other. That means there is more than enough about the Christmas season that has nothing to do with Jesus if that's your thing.

You don't need a totalitarian list of forbidden things to protect the children from a 2,000-year-old holiday. Kids will survive if they're accidentally exposed to a Santa, or a Christmas carol, or—heaven forbid—a manger scene.

Avenatti bails on 2020 presidential run, leaving Biden as 'most qualified' — really?

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Well, that de-escalated quickly. Michael Avenatti, lawyer of Stormy Daniels, announced he will not run for president in 2020 after all. That takes the number of Democrats planning to challenge Trump down to around 724.

In a statement, Avenatti said he would still run, but he decided not to out of respect for his family's “concerns." He didn't list their concerns, but said:

“We will not prevail in 2020 without a fighter. I remain hopeful the party finds one."

Speaking of — if you've been wondering who's the most qualified person in America to be president, wonder no more. It's former vice president Joe Biden.

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How do we know? Because ol' Joe told us so, at a book tour stop in Montana. The 76-year-old says he'll make a decision about a 2020 bid within the next two months, which is campaign-speak for “I'm definitely running, so get out your checkbooks."

Biden admitted:

“I am a gaffe machine, but my God what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can't tell the truth."

Yeah, about that… the first time Biden ran for president, in 1987, he was actually pulling ahead of the Democratic pack until his campaign got snagged on plagiarism. He got caught lifting entire sections of a speech by Neil Kinnock, a British Labor Party candidate who ran for Prime Minister and lost to Margaret Thatcher. It wasn't just the fact that Biden copied exact sections of Kinnock's speech, he also stole biographical facts from Kinnock's life and tried to pass them off as his own — like saying his ancestors were coal miners.

The most qualified person in the country to be president? Maybe in the mind of Joe Biden.

Perhaps in the pre-Internet era, Biden thought he could get away with it. But he didn't. An adviser for Michael Dukakis' campaign saw a tape of Kinnock's speech and put together a side-by-side comparison video of Biden's plagiarizing, then sent the tape to the New York Times. As reporters dug further into the story, they found that Biden had also lifted large portions of speeches by Robert Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey.

Those revelations led Biden to admit he got an “F" for a course in law school after he plagiarized five pages for a term paper. Biden was caught in more lies about his academic credentials and enough embarrassments mounted that he finally withdrew from the race.

The most qualified person in the country to be president? Maybe in the mind of Joe Biden.

Saturday Night Live writer Nimesh Patel, an Emmy-nominated comedian, is the latest victim in campus culture's wacky game. Patel is the first Indian-American writer for SNL, so by the usual standards of identity politics, he should be safe. Not the case. All of the rules went out the window when he was performing a stand-up comedy set for an event called "cultureSHOCK: Reclaim" at Columbia University hosted by the Asian American Alliance.

He joked that being gay cannot be a choice because “no one looks in the mirror and thinks, 'this black thing is too easy, let me just add another thing to it.'"

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For one, that's less of a joke and more of a statement. It's exactly the kind of safe, pro-LGBT statement that you would think campus feminists and trans activists would squeal with glee to hear.

According to Columbia's school paper, student organizers, offended by Patel's joke, rushed the stage 30 minutes into the set and told Patel that he needed to finish his set and say a few closing remarks.

Patel argued that his jokes were not offensive, and that they were actually much-needed insights into the real world. He also made it clear that he stands in solidarity with the Asian American Alliance.

They still cut his microphone off and booted him off stage.

Patel hasn't commented on the uproar, but here are a few comments from people who were in the audience:

The Columbia Spectator quoted three students who were in the audience. One of them said:

“The message they were trying to send with the event was opposite to the jokes he was making, and using people's ethnicity as the crux of his jokes could be funny but still offensive... He definitely wasn't the most crass comedian I've ever heard but for the event it was inappropriate."

Another student said:

“I really dislike when people who are older say that our generation needs to be exposed to the real world. Obviously the world is not a safe space but just accepting that it's not and continuing to perpetuate the un-safeness of it… is saying that it can't be changed," said Jao. “When older generations say you need to stop being so sensitive, it's like undermining what our generation is trying to do in accepting others and making it safer."

The radical version of leftism that has overtaken college campuses... will eat their own without thinking twice.

The third student wasn't bothered by the jokes:

“While what some of the things that he said might have been a bit provoking to some of the audience, as someone who watches comedy a lot, none of them were jokes that I hadn't heard before and none of them were jokes that elicited such a response in my experience."

The third student is a little ray of hope in all of this, but I'm afraid that people like her are increasingly outnumbered and unwilling to speak up.

The jokes were clearly not racist or homophobic. If anything, they seem to have been designed to pander to overly sensitive campus activists who all too often cry “racist" and “homophobic" and all their other insults.

It just goes to show that the left, particularly the radical version of leftism that has overtaken college campuses, will stop at nothing to push its postmodern narrative. They'll spare nobody. And they will eat their own without thinking twice.

Forbes recently described student loan debt as the $1.5 trillion crisis, adding that "Student loan debt is now the second highest consumer debt category - behind only mortgage debt - and higher than both credit cards and auto loans," which is affecting 44 million borrowers in the U.S.

There's also the cultural effect that college is having, the indoctrination that young people are being subjected to. More and more powerful people are recognizing that college as an institution is a problem.

Last Friday, Peter Thiel gave a keynote speech at the Intercollegiate Studies Institute's Collegiate Network editors' conference. He told a roomful of 100 students:

Universities today are as corrupt as the Catholic Church of 500 years ago. At some point, if it's 100 to zero, you start to suspect you're in North Korea. Does the unanimity mean you've gotten to the truth, or does it mean you're in a totalitarian state. We have this illusion that all sorts of important decisions have been decided.

He added:

We are not on the losing side of history. The other side is on the losing side. The reformation is going to happen, and it won't come from within, but from the outside.

Thiel has worked actively to bring about the change that he's talking about here. The lawsuit he led against Gawker helped topple their empire of filth and lowest-level journalism. He has also created The Thiel Fellowship, which "gives $100,000 to young people who want to build new things instead of sitting in a classroom. The idea that we are on the losing side is a form of psychological warfare."

We're not on the losing side. Not in the slightest.

And he's right. We're not on the losing side. Not in the slightest. We're on the up-and-up. Things are only going to get better from here.