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GLENN: I've got an Obama supporter on the phone. His name is Stan. He's from Rochester. Hello, Stan, how are you?
CALLER: It's hard to say, you know --
GLENN: No, no. That's not the question. Let's have a decent conversation with each other, Stan. How are you?
CALLER: I'm fine.
GLENN: Thank you for listening and thank you for holding.
CALLER: Okay. Your screener told me to get right to the point. I'm sorry.
GLENN: You are the one caller who actually has done it. I'm sorry for calling you out on that. Go ahead, Stan.
CALLER: Well, I just want to say the right wing is handing this election to Obama and I'll tell you why I think they are.
GLENN: All right.
CALLER: Is we've all done things in our lives that we're ashamed of, you know.
GLENN: Sure. You've hung out --
CALLER: I'm a recovering alcoholic the same as you.
GLENN: Yes, sir.
CALLER: And I'm sure during the time of our disease, we've done things that we're ashamed of.
GLENN: Yeah.
CALLER: We've had associations that we were ashamed of.
GLENN: Yeah.
CALLER: And the electorate is smart and they have all suffered from, you know, exaggerated stories about ourselves. You know, you take a little fact and then exaggerate it into something that's --
GLENN: Okay. Well, let's go through some of these, Stan, because this is a really good thing. I'm an alcoholic, you are an alcoholic, we can relate to doing things and being with people that, you know, we regret now. William Ayers, bombed the Pentagon, unrepentant bomber. It was printed on September 11th in the New York Times that the only thing he wished he could have done more of is bombing, he is sorry he didn't do more.
CALLER: That's an association that Obama's probably sorry for. You know, the same way we associate it with people during our disease that we would be sorry for.
GLENN: Oh, okay. So okay, we can relate. I'm an alcoholic. I don't have any terrorist friends. Are you an alcoholic? Do you have any terrorist friends?
CALLER: I don't know what my friends have done in the past. Like I said during the time --
GLENN: Hang on just a second. But he does know.
CALLER: Well, he doesn't hang out with them anymore.
GLENN: Oh, okay. But he knew at the time, he just said this last week. First it was he didn't know -- I'm sorry. First it was somebody in the neighborhood, then it was somebody that he just kind of knew and then it was, okay, well, I did announce but it wasn't a party for me. It was from somebody else and then everybody denied that. And he said, okay, that was a party for me but I just, I did know but I just thought he -- you know, I thought he was past that bombing part in his life and he was rehabilitated.
CALLER: Well, sure. I mean, you know, I had friends that I hung out with that were in jail for Mafia activities, you know.
GLENN: But you were -- but that's when you were drunk.
CALLER: Well, yeah. But I mean, now that they get out of jail and they are reformed.
GLENN: Okay, I know.
CALLER: And they don't do anything anymore, that's an association.
GLENN: Absolutely. I'm an alcoholic and I did a lot of things when I was drunk that I regret. You are an alcoholic I think is your point and you've done a lot of things when you were drunk that you regret. He was on a board with William Ayers, the terrorist that he knew but thought was repentant is the latest story. And he says that -- you know, but one of the things he did and doesn't regret it starting the UN school. Do you have a problem with the UN school, starting a school based on the principles of the United Nations and not an American school but the UN school?
CALLER: To be honest with you, Glenn, I'm not familiar with the UN school.
GLENN: Let's just say, let's just say that, you know, do you need any more than, it's a school based on the principles and the ideologies of the United Nations, not the United States.
CALLER: I understand you're going into facts, but my point of the call was to say that those are -- the electorate is looking at past associations. We don't have all the facts. We don't know what's in the man's heart, you know?
GLENN: No, you are right, we don't know what's in the man's heart, Stan but, see, here's the difference between you and me as an alcoholic and Barack Obama. You and I were drunk when we were doing things like that and we changed our lives. Now, Barack Obama has not had a pivot point. He has not said he extolls the gentleman who was his mentor and role model, a guy who has a 600-page FBI file. He is a Soviet Communist with a capital C. Frank Marshall Davis, that was his mentor growing up. He doesn't say, oh, well, he was a communist and boy, that was really bad. He just says he was a great man and he learned a lot from him. This man has never said, I had a pivot point. I've been hanging out with socialists and Marxists and communists my whole life and that's what he has been.
CALLER: Didn't William Ayers change his life and become a professor?
GLENN: No. Change his life? Read some of his books that he's currently publishing where he says that juveniles should not be punished or held responsible. He still claims this is back in I think 2003 that he is a communist with a small C which I believe means that he just doesn't shoot people if you disagree with him, anymore.
CALLER: Back to my original point of the call. That's what I'm saying about the electorate. The electorate understands that past relationships --
GLENN: Past relationships mean something, Stan, if you don't have a pivot point.
CALLER: Have you extolled all the people in your past that have --
GLENN: What about -- but I have a pivot point, Frank, and so do you -- or Stan, and so do you.
CALLER: What's your pivot point?
GLENN: My pivot point is sitting at the breakfast table with my children lying to them because I blacked out and I couldn't remember the story that I told them the night before. That was the moment that I said, I can't live this way anymore; I've got to change my life. What was Barack Obama's pivot point? Was it with Jeremiah Wright? We know it was, "Uh-oh, now they've got the tapes and the evidence of it and I better say something." That's when he pivoted. But he never denied the theology of that church. Just Reverend Wright. That was his pivot point on Reverend Wright, not the theology. And the theology is Marxism. He hasn't pivoted on William Ayers, on the things that he did, the things that he taught, the things that he talked about. Nobody has asked him about the communist with a small C. All he has said is, "Oh, well, I thought he was a repentant terrorist." Well, he wasn't, and everybody in his life knew he wasn't. And if you read any of his current works, you'd know that.
But let's just not dwell on William Ayers. Let's dwell on Tony Rezco, the time that he knew that it was bad was when he got caught. That was his pivot point on that one. His pivot point always seems to be when he gets caught. It's not a blanket pivot point, Stan, like an alcoholic's. An alcoholic's pivot point comes when you are down on the ground and you realize you have nothing to lose, except your life, and the only way you can turn your life around is if you change fundamentally. He hasn't changed fundamentally.
CALLER: See, what I'm doing here is I'm an Obama supporter and I'm not attacking McCain's character or his relationships in his past and the years he's been in the Senate.
GLENN: Stan, you need to -- you are going to make me drink. Do you understand -- Stan --
CALLER: Don't pick it up.
GLENN: Done listen to me -- don't give me the alcoholic nonsense. Listen to me, Stan. You don't stop judging -- you said it yourself. We don't know what's in the heart of a man, right?
CALLER: I don't, I don't judge a man by one incident in his life.
GLENN: I'm not judging him on one incident in his life, either. I'm judging him on ten, pretty big ones, Stan, ten! Pretty big ones!
CALLER: What has he done? What has he done?
GLENN: Good Lord, what hasn't he done? The latest one is ACORN. He just gave $800,000 to community outreaches to help him, you know, get out the vote, except that's not what he said. He said that it was $800,000 for lighting, stages and sound. When he got caught lying, then he said, "Okay, oh, no, it was for community outreach," and we find out that $86,000 went to ACORN. They are involved now in voter fraud. Good Lord, man, how much more do you need?
CALLER: Didn't McCain make his speech before ACORN? Didn't he praise them? I seen him --
GLENN: That's not the same as giving a speech, Stan. It's not -- I'm going to hang up on you because I'm going to drink. Jack Daniels, deliver a case of alcohol to me! It's not the same -- Stu, help me. Help me.
STU: The only way I can help you is getting you that Jack Daniels which we're now sending for.
GLENN: Please send me, I -- you know what? I used to drink at least a gallon a week. Send me a gallon. Let's start at the top.