Conservative Whoopi?

GLENN BECK PROGRAM


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GLENN: All right. Stephen, how are you, sir?

MOORE: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: First of all, let's start with this fact check. By the way, if you don't know who Stephen Moore is, he started Club For Growth. He's now the lead economic editorialist for the Wall Street Journal. Hey, you are reviewing my book, aren't you?

MOORE: I love the book. And by the way, did you see when I was on earlier this week, we caused quite a stir with the liberal bloggers.

GLENN: Oh, I didn't see it. What happened?

MOORE: Oh, they have been saying, you know, that, you know, when we were talking about taxes, raise tax cuts, raising more revenues, it caused a huge stir among all the liberal bloggers saying, lie about the data and --

GLENN: How is that possible? I want to try to be fair here.

MOORE: Yeah.

GLENN: Try to be fair and I know that's very tough for us, Stephen, but try to be fair. How do you make a case it's not true?

MOORE: Well, look. Sometimes when you cut tax rates, you know, you are not going to get as much revenue as you would have gotten but there's no question when George Bush cut the capital gains tax in 2003 and when we cut the income tax rate, I mean, we got a huge throe of revenues. In fact, we had $700 billion in new tax revenues over the last three years. And my other favorite example of this is in the 1980s when we cut the top income tax rate from 70% all the way down to 28%, over that decade -- and you can look this up in President Bill Clinton's own budget documents. The federal revenues doubled. They doubled from $500 billion to $1 trillion. Now, Glenn, that's not a revenue loss.

GLENN: But how do you -- again, how do they make the case? What stat are they trying to quote?

MOORE: Here's what they say. They say if we hadn't cut taxes, we would have had even more revenues. But you can't disprove that. I mean, you can't ever say what might have happened if we hadn't done it. All we could say is every time we cut taxes in the Sixties, in the Eighties and now in the 2000s, every time we have done it, we have gotten more revenues, not less.

GLENN: So what they're trying to do is disprove a fact by using a theory?

MOORE: Exactly.

GLENN: Yeah.



Stephen Moore

MOORE: And it's a problem because in Washington what happens is we have these official scores. The people actually tell us how much a tax cut is going to cost and so any time any conservative says, well, let's cut the estate tax or let's cut the capital gains tax, the scores always say, oh, this is going to cause a huge amount of lost revenue, we can't afford to do it when all they have to do is look at history. Glenn, all they have to do is look at the history books and see what happens every time we do it. We cut the taxes, we get more revenues.

GLENN: Are you amazed, Stephen, at the people? We were just playing a clip from The View. I know you probably spend every day watching The View.

MOORE: Oh, Oprah -- I mean not Oprah. You mean Whoopi? I love this story. It's too good to be true. Remember when I was on your show a few weeks ago when Warren Buffett came to town and said we have to increase the estate tax. The liberal media was all over it saying what a statesman he is for wanting higher estate taxes. Now, Whoopi Goldberg gets it right. She says, look, when I die, I shouldn't have to pay more taxes. I already paid my taxes when I was alive and, boy, have the liberals come down against her.

GLENN: I love these people who are always for bigger government, always for higher taxes but when it actually hits them, they are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that doesn't -- I've already paid my taxes; that doesn't seem fair. I don't think the death tax seems fair to anyone.

MOORE: That was what was so great about -- people should actually read the dialogue because when Whoopi Goldberg said on the show, I don't think anybody should have to pay tax when they die, all the other liberals on that -- I've got to tell you, Glenn, I'm not a regular viewer of that TV show, The View but all the other liberals on the show, they are like hyperventilating when she said she didn't want to have the estate tax.

GLENN: I'm so surprised. Here he is the chief guy for the editorials of the financial section of the Wall Street Journal. You are telling me you don't watch Joy Behar religiously?

MOORE: I don't care too much what Rosie O'Donnell has to say.

GLENN: Stephen, she said -- and I think she's wrong. She said that everybody is saying that the death tax is a double tax and that's not true. She says it is true. I say she's wrong. It's a triple tax.

MOORE: Good point. Yeah, because you pay your taxes when you earn it. Then you have to pay a capital gains or a dividend tax if anything comes in to you. And then if you do the right thing and you save up your money so you can leave a little bit of your business and your assets to your kids, which is really what the American dream is all about, the Government comes in with a -- right now it's a 45% estate tax. And don't forget, Glenn. I mean, this is something important for your listeners. In 2010 the estate tax goes down to zero but in 2011 it goes all the way back up to 55%.

GLENN: Okay, hang on just a second. I missed one because it's not triple. It's quadruple tax.

MOORE: Which one did we miss?

GLENN: Didn't we miss if you give it to your children, don't they have to pay tax on it as well?

MOORE: Well, there's not an inheritance tax. In other words, what happens is the money is taxed out of the estate. So if your parents or grandparents leave, you know, a --

GLENN: I don't have to pay any kind of capital gains, nothing? That's free and clear for the recipient?

MOORE: Exactly. And so you basically get the assets after the estate tax is paid. But don't forget, Glenn, in a lot of cases that's over half of the -- the Government, the IRS gets more than half of your estate.

GLENN: And I love the fact that last time we were on, Stephen, you know, you told a story that, of course, Warren Buffett is for this. This is the way he cannibalizes family businesses. He goes in and he buys, like, Dairy Queen because they couldn't afford the estate tax. Stephen, we'll look for your articles in The Wall Street Journal. God bless you. We'll talk to you again soon.

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As the Senate prepares for former President Trump's second impeachment trial, many are asking whether it's constitutional to try a president after leaving office. Alan Dershowitz, lawyer and host of the of "The Dershow," joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to talk about the legal battles Trump still faces.

Dershowitz said he believes the Senate doesn't have the authority to convict Trump, now that he's a private citizen again, and thus can't use impeachment to bar him from running for office again.

"The Constitution says the purpose of impeachment is to remove somebody. He [Trump] is out of office. There's nothing left to do.
It doesn't say you can impeach him to disqualify him for the future. It says, if you remove him you can then add disqualification, but you can't just impeach somebody to disqualify them," Dershowitz said.

"The Senate can't try ordinary citizens. So once you're an ordinary citizen, you get tried only in the courts, not in the Senate. So it's clearly unconstitutional," he added.

Dershowitz, who served on Trump's legal team during the first impeachment trial, also discussed whether he thinks Trump is legally (or even just ethically) responsible for the Capitol riot earlier this month, and whether those engaging in violence could be considered "domestic terrorists."

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A new, shocking CBS News poll shows that the majority of Americans believe they're facing a new enemy: other Americans.

More than two-thirds of poll respondents said they believe democracy in the U.S. is "threatened," and 54% said "other people in America" are the "biggest threat to the American way of life," rather than economic factors, viruses, natural disasters, or foreign actors.

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Countless leaders on the left are now arguing that removing President Donald Trump from office won't be enough — they're now calling for the president's "cult-like" supporters to be "deprogrammed." And it's not just fringe politicians.

During an appearance on "Real Time with Bill Maher" last week, former NBC anchor Katie Couric said, "The question is, how are we going to really almost deprogram these people who have signed up for the cult of Trump."

Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and Democratic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi questioned whether the nation needs "a 9/11-type commission" to determine whether President Trump was colluding with Russian President Vladimir Putin "the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol." Clinton also made sure to include her favorite "deplorables" in her unsubstantiated conspiracy theory:

"But we now know that not just [Trump] but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members, have the same disregard for democracy," Clinton said to Pelosi.

Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson and New York Times Magazine's Nikole Hannah-Jones agreed that there is a need for "millions of Americans, almost all white, almost all Republicans" to be deprogrammed and punished, during an MSNBC interview last week.

Now, a story from the Washington Post is also preaching that narrative and even added that we need more restrictions for conservatives on social media and in the broadcast industry.

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"It's an awesome responsibility, and one that I am not worthy of," Glenn said. "I want to say ... what He wants me to say. And I have to listen very carefully, because I feel the same way you do. But that will get us nowhere."

Glenn said it's time for Americans who are awake — not woke — to come together, no matter which side of the political aisle you're on, and stand with the truth.

"We are the Alamo, we will stand. But we desperately, desperately need you," Glenn said. "We need the people who are awake — not woke — awake. You may disagree with us. We are your allies, not your enemies. And if you will not stand with us in our hour of need, there will be no one left to stand with you in your hour of need. We must all come together, anyone who is awake."

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