Mark Steyn Single
(It's A Marshmellow World.)
Glenn: All right. I just want to play this because this is a new song from Mark Steyn who is the -- I mean, you're listening to this and you're, like, didn't they just deem him some sort of a hatemonger up in Canada and try to pull his books back from telling the truth about what he saw about Islamic extremism and now he's singing It's A Marshmallow World. Mark Steyn, welcome to the program.
Steyn: Good to be with you. I believe I am the only hatemonger with a holiday single.
Glenn: What are you -- I love it, by the way, but what were you thinking?
Steyn: Well, oddly enough, once I had had that trial in Vancouver, which was back in the summer, and I flew out of Vancouver, my world was ready to explode with all of these hate crimes and I was having a drink with Jessica Martin, who is also singing on that record, over in London and we were talking about what would sort of cheer me up and the idea of actually doing a Christmas single and getting all of this out of my head was kind of a therapy for me after the hate crimes business.
Glenn: How did that work out for you, by the way?
Steyn: Well, we -- we were actually -- they acquitted us in Vancouver, wholly and properly, by the way, because it's the human right not to be offended. That's what Canada that has. They have this thing if you publish something and somebody takes offense, as these Islamist guys did, then essentially you're guilty, but they decided to acquit us on political grounds. So, we're now suing the queen to actually get this stupid law ruled unconstitutional and overthrown.
Glenn: All right. Let's switch gears here for a second. Apparently Dick Cheney, in a closed door Senate GOP lunch on Wednesday, warned the GOP, quote, that it will be Herbert Hoover time in aid to the industry was rejected for the bailout of the big three. This is exactly the same kind of stuff that they were saying about the bank bailout, but now they're saying it about GM. What do you think about what's going on right now, Mark?
Steyn: Well, I think there's no end to this bailout. It's bailout without end. We need to find a way to bailout from the bailout and actually, with respect to Dick Cheney, I think he's got it actually wrong here. You know, it's very interesting to me, speaking as a foreigner, but the Americans always talk about the great depression. In other countries, they talk about it as a depression. It started in 1929, the worth was over in three or four years. What prolonged it in the United States was both Herbert Hoover and FDR over in overinterfering in the economy to impede recovery. That's why it's a great depression in the United States and it's just a depression everywhere else.
Glenn: So, how do we get this message out, Mark, because we are -- I mean, you have -- you came over here. You love this country.
Glenn: You came over here because you saw what was happening over in Europe and in England and you're like, Okay. Well, I've got to get over here. I speak to so many people who have come from Cuba or Russia or Poland or France, anywhere, and they come over here and they say, what are you guys doing? We've seen this movie before. This doesn't end well.
Steyn: No. And this is the last stop for most of us. This is as far as we can go. If you can't escape to America, there's nowhere else and as you say, we've all seen this movie before and in the 1960's, the British government attempted to prop up the British auto industry. They were big names, Triumph.
Glenn: Say "Jaguar." Say "Jaguar."
Steyn: Lovely stuff. And what happened was by the 1970's, if you wanted a new model car, you would put your name down on a list and you waited six months and they got back to you. It was the Soviet Union. The fact is you can't bail out three companies who are making cars at a price nobody will pay for them. GM and Ford and Chrysler cannot make an automobile at a price that any customer is prepared to pay for it. So, if you simply throw billions of dollars at the failed model, you've got more of the failed model.
Glenn: Mark, how concerned are you from -- you know, we started talking last year and, you know, we've talked about Islamic extremism and everything else and, you know, I've been talking about this perfect storm that's headed our way and I just -- I don't see how much more pressure can be put on this table before somebody comes and kicks one of the legs out. How concerned are you about a clicking -- a ticking clock here that is just starting to tick faster and faster and faster?
Steyn: I think that's the real issue. It's the connection between the domestic stuff and the overseas stuff is you get the sense right now that America on November the 4th consciously chose to turn its back on some of these unpleasant issues out there. I notice, if you believe what you read in the Israeli papers, that Obama has essentially hold the Israeli government he accepts the reality and the inevitability of an Iranian nuclear bottom. Mere not talking about them going numerous to you. We're talking about how to live with it. Nothing good is going to come up that and in a sense I think there is a moral issue at the heart of all this, Glenn, that when you look at the -- what happened to the big three auto bailout, they got greedy, they got comfortable, they set themselves up with pension plans and health plans that weren't sustainable. The same with the mortgage bailout. People got mortgages that were unreal. These things are very serious because they strike at the heart of the soundness of capitalism, just at a time when capitalism and free markets are one of the greatest things we've got going for us and he, up against a battle with forces who want to industry capitalism. Why we want to erode it from within is beyond me.
Glenn: Mark Steyn from Steynonline.com. We'll talk to you again, my friend. Thank you.
Steyn: Always a pleasure, Glenn.
Glenn: All right. Bye-bye.