Glenn vs. Caller


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A unrelated, yet classic, GOMP of a caller. (GOMP stands for Get Off My Phone)

GLENN: I also want to talk to you a little bit about President Obama and his new Gitmo ruling, which is insane. I mean, he needs a blue ribbon panel now on Gitmo on what are we going to do with the people. Shouldn't you have had that idea done? You've been campaigning on it for two years. Shouldn't you have had that answer so we didn't have to have this period of, "Okay, well, we're going to figure that out in the next twelve months."

The other thing is he stopped torture. Well, what is torture? That's the real question. And he's decided he needs a blue ribbon panel on torture. Well, again shouldn't you have that figured out before you issued the executive order? Apparently not.

Let's go to Mike in Melbourne. Hello, Mike. Mike, go ahead, please.

CALLER: Hey, Glenn. This is Mike. I was just calling. Listen, I believe you on everything and I understand exactly where you're coming from on the federal government as far as they cannot micromanage this economy into shape, they cannot do any -- they're corrupt and they can't do anything better than the private citizen can do. So when you say that you agree with torture or what not and that you --

GLENN: I never said that, but go ahead.

CALLER: Well, that's the impression I got.

GLENN: Sure.

CALLER: I don't believe that they have the responsibility or the knowledge that they for sure have the right person to commit that torture on somebody. Also, the PATRIOT Act is being used against American citizens. The LA Times had an article about a woman on an airplane, had a problem with her child is now being charged with terrorism. So when you give the federal government --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Hold on. I'm look that story up. Stu, look up the story in the LA Times against a woman and her child flying on the airlines. Let's see what that was all about. You are exactly right, that you don't give the government more power than you want them to have. The PATRIOT Act, the PATRIOT Act just by name alone should have been a warning sign. In the PATRIOT Act there are things that we I believe need to allow the federal government to do for a limited time only and in a very limited scope and I was satisfied by the Sunset provision in the PATRIOT Act. However I'm growing more and more leery of that and that's not because of the Obama administration. That is because of my view on the government and how out of control they are in the last couple of years where I don't -- I no longer trust the government. I think there are -- I think there are a lot of good people in government that are in there fighting, but I also believe with an emergency and an awful lot of power, unscrupulous people can use them in unscrupulous ways. With that being said let me ask you, Mike, what is torture? Because when you say, you know, it's unfair for you to say you're for torture. I'm not for torture. I'm not for pulling anybody's fingernails out or anything like that. So let's define torture. What is torture?

CALLER: To me, let's say -- first of all, I'm all behind the military and all that.

GLENN: I understand. You don't have to -- no, no caveats. We're in the trust tree here. We're in the trust tree. You can speak your mind. What is torture?

CALLER: Torture to me can be many things but I mean, it can be held for unlimited amounts of time without representation of any sort. And I understand what you're saying about these military guys, but they should have them in and out. They should charge them with something. Either they should have shot them in the field like you said. I'm a military men. They should have either handled the business in the field when they had them out there or they should have charged them with something and hung them out in a tree, even --

GLENN: So prisoners -- wait a minute.

CALLER: They can't hang onto the guy forever.

GLENN: So a main prisoner of war camp is torture?

CALLER: Oh, it depends. If they are held for an unlimited amount of time without being charged whatsoever with any --

GLENN: You are fighting against the United States. You were caught on the battlefield fighting against the United States.

CALLER: Then you charge them with something and you take a direction with it. That's what I'm saying. I don't think anybody in the world should -- then the other governments could charge our soldiers with the same thing, in Iran they --

GLENN: It's a -- I understand that. I understand that. You're a country -- we are a country -- hang on. Just listen to me, please. We are a country at war with Afghanistan and in Iraq. Do you have the right to have a prisoner of war camp at a time of war as long as it's humane? You caught somebody on the field. They are fighting against you. Do we need to give them the Miranda rights and then charge them and then put them in a prisoner of war camp, do we have to have a trial for those who were caught on the battlefield fighting against us?

CALLER: See, what I'm saying is if you're in war, just kill them right there. If you're going to --

GLENN: Okay. So it's more humane to kill them than it is to put them in a humane prisoner of war camp?

CALLER: I'm saying if they are fighting you on battlefield, like I said --

GLENN: Kill them, okay.

CALLER: I was a soldier. You go ahead and take them out if they're fighting you.

GLENN: Just want to know, it's more humane, I just -- I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I just wanted to know, it's more humane to kill them than it is to put them in a prisoner of war camp. I just want to make sure I understand that right.

CALLER: When they're in the prison, you either charge them with something or you don't. I mean, make a direction. Just don't hold them in limbo forever.

GLENN: Got it.

CALLER: You know what I mean?

GLENN: Is it torture to have sleep deprivation?

CALLER: That's up to the lawyers. I'm not a lawyer.

GLENN: No, it's not up to the lawyers. Damn it, America, can we stop listening to lawyers and judges and make our damn decisions! Our founding fathers never got together and said, "Well, let's let the lawyers figure that out." They were guided by principles that were enduring. They were guided by God, they were guided by their own gut and their own moral decisions. For the love of Pete, let's not be guided by attorneys. Let's have a conversation and decide ourselves what is right and what is wrong.

Now, is it torture, Mike, to give sleep deprivation, to leave the lights on all night, to play Barry Manilow music 24 hours a day? Is that torture?

CALLER: No.

GLENN: It is not torture?

CALLER: I wouldn't say that's torture, no.

GLENN: Some would disagree with you, sir, and that's why they are having a blue ribbon panel to once again decide what is torture and what is not torture. So now we've got a blue ribbon panel to tell us. Is anyone for the pulling off of fingernails for people that we pull off on the battlefield? I don't think anybody is for that. Now, if you are in a situation where you think a guy has information about a nuke going off in New York City and it's going off in 24 hours and he may be the key to that? You are damn right I pull his fingernails out. Do I do that on the battlefield just to get anybody's information? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But that's my own personal judgment, and I'm sorry if I'm a little too Jack Bauer for you, but if that's what I did, then I would stand by it. If I thought I could get the information about a nuke that was going to go off in the National Mall -- do you know we had a Somali scare? Do you know that? This has -- I don't know if this has even been reported, but there was a scare on the inauguration day that they said that the Somalis had come in, Somalis, the new Taliban, Somalis had come in, infiltrated the country and they were planning a major terrorist attack on the National Mall during inauguration day. Now, thank God we were on top of it. We locked everything down. Our guys were on top of it. If they had information that the Somalis had put a nuclear weapon there on the National Mall and you happened to catch the rebels that you had good information that this guy knew that they had that weapon, he knew where it was, Mike, if it meant that three million people were going to be vaporized on the most important day in America and the president and everybody else was going to be vaporized and you had a Somali, would you pull his fingernails out if you thought you could get the information?

CALLER: Let me say that --

GLENN: No, answer the question.

CALLER: I don't like those black-and-white scenarios.

GLENN: Answer the question. Life is black and white, Mike!

CALLER: When they say should we take over --

GLENN: Hang up the phone. Hang up the phone. Life is black and white. Sometimes you have to make the decision. That's what the President of the United States has to do. Are we talking about the President of the United States? Are we talking about hard decisions or are we talking about movies? Are we talking about -- where in our Constitution does it say, "We, the lawyers, in order to perfect -- create a new nation," we the lawyers?! We the lawyers. Lawyers don't answer the questions. Any company you've ever worked for, any company that you've ever worked for that is run by lawyers, I can guarantee you it was a frickin' nightmare. And unless it's an attorney firm, it's out of business. Business, your family, our country requires leadership, and you go to the attorneys and you say, "I need to do this." "Well, it's not legal." "Well, you find a way for me to do this. It must be done."

You don't like black and whites? Well, you know what? We could have very well been in that black and white situation. The only part of that hypothetical situation was a nuclear weapon and catching one of the rebels. We had information that something was going on with people from Somalia, that they were here in the United States, it had something to do with inauguration day, it had something to do with the Mall. Well, just add nuclear weapon and catching one of the guys. Take me there. Do you torture, yes or no? "I don't like black and white." Life, I'm sorry, is not gray. Sometimes when you have to make a decision, it is yes or no, not maybe. "Mr. President, we have captured him, we think he has the information." "Are you sure this guy is involved?" "Yes." "How sure are you that he's involved?" "98%, Mr. President." "Are you sure that he knows where the nuke is?" "98%, Mr. President." "Is there anything that is telling me that you guys don't -- that you have your head up a place where the sun doesn't shine?" "Mr. President, there are four different people standing in this room. None of us have anything to gain on this one. We don't want to tell you this news. We believe this man knows. Now, the inauguration is in four hours. What do you want to do, Mr. President?" "Let me tell you I don't like these black-and-white decisions."

STU: I love these people that call up and say, you know, they criticize the president for the decisions he makes. Well, as a guy who's calling up a crappy talk show, you might have the luxury of a gray area on this. That's not what the president has.

GLENN: No.

Glenn Beck joined Fox News' Tucker Carlson on Thursday night to discuss Visa Inc.'s "horrifying" new plans to flag firearm sales by separately categorizing purchases at gun shops, a move that Glenn aptly described as "the next step in banning guns."

In what's been hailed as a major victory for gun control activists, Visa agreed to adopt the International Organization for Standardization's (ISO) new set of standards by creating a special merchant category code for gun and ammunition sales.

In his appearance on "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Glenn shared a letter written by Robert B. Thomson III, a senior vice president at Visa, showing that the credit card company initially pushed back on the ISO's new rules.

“We believe that asking payment networks to serve as a moral authority by deciding which legal goods can or cannot be purchased sets a dangerous precedent,” Thomson wrote in the letter to pro-gun-control lawmakers, including Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

Just days later, however, Visa had agreed to comply with the ISO's plan to establish a new merchant category code for gun stores. So why did Visa suddenly flip?

As Glenn explained, it all comes down to pressure from America's largest union-owned bank, the Amalgamated Bank, one of the only unionized banks in the United States and a proud proponent of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) investing.

"This is the next step in banning guns," Glenn asserted.

"It's horrifying!" Tucker responded after several seconds of stunned silence.

"I'm so grateful you did the reporting on this," he told Glenn. "I'm not sure why it falls to you since we have a couple of very large daily newspapers in this country you'd think would want to report this, yet none of them did. So, Glenn Beck did."


On a recent episode of "The Glenn Beck Program," Glenn broke down the details of this latest attack on the Second Amendment and revealed how this is a step toward something even worse than federal gun registration. Watch the video clip below for more details. Can't watch? Download the podcast here.


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Glenn Beck: Here's why Stacey Abrams' fetal heartbeat remarks are hilarious but TERRIFYING

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Georgia Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams has a new pro-abortion conspiracy theory: "There is no such thing as a [fetal] heartbeat at six weeks ... it is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have a right to take control of a woman’s body."

On the radio program Thursday, Glenn Beck and producer Stu Burguiere agreed Abrams' latest "misinformation" is not just ridiculous but could be dangerous if people are actually willing to believe her.

"If you want to defend abortion, go ahead and defend it. Defend what you're actually doing. Stop denying what is reality," Stu said. "If this is such a great defensible policy, then just come out and defend it, but they never can ... you notice how they can't go to the actual thing they say is so important. They keep defending these other things that aren't true."

Glenn said the pro-choice movement was successful for a long time because most people want the decision to be up to the woman and her doctor and that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. But when leftists began "celebrating" their abortions or calling for "abortion on demand" at any point in the pregnancy, that's when they start to lose support.

"Because they've celebrated abortion and are losing regular people, you can't put that genie back in the bottle. So, what do they have to do now? They have to take the insane step of discrediting medical machines and technology," Glenn said.

"This is after two years, by the way, of them claiming the biggest scandal in the world was people suggesting the voting machines were hacked — after they previously said that voting machines were hacked in elections they [Democrats] lost," Stu pointed out.

"Honestly, gang, think this through because this is where life gets very scary. This is where you go to authoritarian rule and you can kill millions of people because you're truly now discrediting things that everyone knows is true," Glenn warned.

"So, if you disagree ... you can say that is an evil magic box that has made up sounds in it to convince people. If they will buy that, you're at the Salem witch trials. 'If she doesn't float, she wasn't a witch.' That's what you're looking at right now — and what's frightening is, [Abrams] can say this with a straight face and no one discredits her," he continued.

"You don't think that they can convince those people that you are a terrorist because of the way you vote? [...] You don't think they can convince half the country that you should be eliminated, liquidated, put into a camp, whatever authoritarians love to do? ... We are headed towards dangerous, dangerous times. We better wake up and stand together because this is frightening — it's hilarious — but because people are taking it seriously, it is terrifying," Glenn added.

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A big question Glenn Beck has always had about “The Amazing Do-Over” is: How do you get the most powerful and wealthy nation that has ever existed to accept, “You will own nothing … and be happy”? A foundational principle of this country from its very inception has been land ownership. We worked hard, were fiscally responsible, and stayed away from high debt, but the progressive era began to erode all of that.

The Clinton Global Initiative recently gathered the ruling class to tell the plebes how to run their finances and called anyone who dared challenge their ideas “climate change deniers.” Glenn argues we are dangerously far down the “Road to Serfdom” and exposes the progressive playbook to keep us in line. It’s a 600-year-old medieval model that’s been the plan all along.

We’re already feeling economic pain, and yet they’re playing “Game of Thrones” with our lives. Turning us into serfs is their ultimate goal. How do they finish the complete restructuring of the American financial system and our way of life?

On Wednesday night's "Glenn TV," Glenn connects it all on the chalkboard and details the solution to fighting back against the ruling elites.

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These days, it seems like everything is about politics, and comedy has been one of the biggest targets. Many comedians are walking on eggshells, but stand-up comedian and "Saturday Night Live" alum Jim Breuer isn't one of them.

Breuer joined Glenn on the latest episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" to talk about why he’d rather be funny than fearful and what inspired his hilarious comedy special, “Somebody Had to Say It," which has garnered almost 1.5 million views as of this writing.

Breuer made it clear that he does not consider himself to be political. "I'm not. I'm 100% not [political]," he told Glenn, before explaining how people started calling him political when he dared to ask questions about a certain shot that we're not allowed to mention, let alone question.

"When did medicine become political?" Breuer asked.

"What kind of price have you paid for being called political?" Glenn asked Breuer.

"To be dead honest with you, once COVID really kicked in, and ... once you realize we're not going to be here, that we're on borrowed time, and I do have God in my life ... you come to terms with reality on a deeper level. And when COVID kicked in, I said, 'You know what? All bets are off.' I already knew I wasn't in control. But now, not only am I not in control from the natural order of life, but now the puppet masters ... are in control," Breuer answered.

"It made me realize I don't have time to worry about what people think of me. I know where I'm at in life. I know where I'm at spiritually. I know where I'm at with my family," he added.

"That's tremendous power," Glenn said. "But it spooks the hell out of people."

"But it shouldn't!" Breuer exclaimed. "I'm excited that other people get this ... but they're stuck. We ain't got time for stuck. To me, this is the time of, 'You gotta rise.' For years and years and years, you allow fear to control your life. Fear of dying. Fear I might get sick ... everything's based out of fear. It's time for the fearless."

Breuer also revealed his secret for dealing with tough times, and he’s seen his share. But he also said he's seen miracles, including the incredible (and hilariously told) story of how he found faith, how God saved his marriage, and why one family friend was convinced his wife belonged to a cult.



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