GLENN: Just a real quick update on the fire. You know, I'd like to -- could we play the -- could we play the interview with "What's her name," Claire Shipman from ABC with Schwarzenegger yesterday. This is where -- she's with ABC now? This is where you want to have a movie star being your leader. Listen to this interview yesterday. Do you have it?
SHIPMAN: So you think the comparison to Katrina that everybody's making in the back of their minds these days is a good one? In terms of state and federal? Arnold Schwarzenegger all you have to do is look around here and see how happy people are here. No one is screaming. No one is complaining about anything.
SHIPMAN: Well, you say everybody is working together but you have heard there's been some complaints from officials, for example, in Orange County who said if we only had more resources earlier, more planes, more firefighting resources, we might have been able to head off this fire that's ravaging Orange County right now.
SCHWARZENEGGER: Everybody's complaining about the planes, just wants to complain because that's a bunch of nonsense. The fact is we have all the planes in the world here. We have 90 air crafts here and they can't fly because of the wind situation.
SHIPMAN: At one point he even employed a heavy weight grip to make his case.
SHIPMAN: The point is you have to be ready to fly.
SCHWARZENEGGER: Trust me you are looking for a mistake and you won't find it. As much as you hate it, it's good news, trust me, okay?
GLENN: You know what? I think they do. I think they do because here's where the media -- now, the media has a story, the fires, and they have -- what you have to understand is the ratings. The ratings for these fires have been outrageous on television. If you've been doing live fire stuff, boy, people are just flocking to the television to watch. So it's like heroin. Now the media organizations have their fix and they don't want to go through withdrawals. You are going to start -- now we're going into the finger pointing place. As much as they say, you know, no, we want the good news, no, they don't. No, they don't. They don't want good news. They want to -- and let me ask you this: I think this story will go away if there's no George Bush evil conservative. You know, even around Schwarzenegger. If Arnold Schwarzenegger hasn't done anything -- if this just turns out to be mismanagement, A, arson, and B, mismanagement by the environmental wing and, you know, our forest service and everything else, if it's just that, this story will go away. But if there's any way to trap FEMA, to, you know, trap George Bush, to show how the evil conservatives stopped something through global warming, whatever, the story will go on and on and on and on and on. But just, I mean, it's a human tragedy and I don't know about you, but I look at the news and I see what's going on over in California and I think, here's a state that was prepared, and it's not easy for me to tip my hat to California and say, wow, looks like you had it down. Looks like they're doing a great job, at least in the response. I mean, you know, we could go -- we could go on and on and on about how this could have been prevented. Well, not all of it, but it didn't have to be this bad. It could go on and on about that. You want to save the kangaroo rat. No, I mean, you do. So God forbid you get rid of any of that dry brush because that kangaroo rat, the planet cannot live without.