by Steven Milloy
GLENN: I hate fluorescent light bulbs, hate them with everything in me. Hate them, hate them, hate them. My kids, I'm not burying food. You know, Bill O'Reilly was like, oh, he's storing up food and burying food in the backyard. Nope, you know what I have buried in the backyard? Incandescent light bulbs. George W. Bush as a Christmas present to you and me, he banned incandescent light bulbs, 2012, 2013 you are not going to have the incandescent light bulb anymore. And I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart. I hate that ugly sterile light. They suck all the happiness and joy out of your life and also they're a pain in the ass to get rid of. If you break one, we showed this on TV the other day. If you break one, I mean, it is a 12‑step process to get rid of it. You just don't sweep it up because it has Mercury. Now, I've hated it because it's a pain in the neck, it doesn't solve global warming, they are ugly. You name it, they are being forced on us. I don't want them. But I had no idea that they were actually killing people. Did you know that? Green Hell today, our Inconvenient Book comes out, is it today in paperback? And there's a new chapter and it's a very good chapter. Kind of an update on everything. This was a best seller for I don't even know, 25 weeks or something like that on the New York Times best seller list and it's a great book, and it's out in paperback. But anyway, we wanted to do an inconvenient update for you on green energy and light bulbs. Who knew that they were actually killing people? Steve Milloy is with us. He's the author of Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Take Control of Your Life and What You Can Do Stop Them. Hello, Steve.
MILLOY: Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me.
GLENN: I had no idea that they were killing people. How are they killing people?
MILLOY: Well, apparently all these bulbs were made in China. We used to make the incandescents in Kentucky but can't co‑that anymore. So we make these compact fluorescents in China where there are basically no occupational standards, safety standards and it turns out that more than 90%, more than 90% of the Chinese workers making these bulbs have been poisoned with Mercury because you can't make these bulbs without Mercury.
GLENN: How do you mean ‑‑ 90% of the workers in China been poisoned with Mercury?
MILLOY: Right. 90% of the workers have been poisoned so badly that they have to be hospitalized.
GLENN: How are they being poisoned?
MILLOY: Well, they just work, you know, they work with Mercury. Mercury is a, you know, a toxic substance in high enough doses and these guys are, you know, putting the Mercury in the bulbs and apparently, you know, they don't do it in a very safe way. They must almost I guess handle the Mercury with their hands, I guess, and ‑‑
GLENN: Do you think it's possible that maybe they are waiting for us to sign the Kyoto treaty before they start handling Mercury properly?
MILLOY: I don't know. You know, China's got a long way to go in terms of environmental protection and occupational safety laws and, you know, right now we're saving the planet but killing the Chinese
GLENN: We're not saving the planet. I'd actually consider ‑‑ I wouldn't do it but I'd consider it. I mean, I can't take it. You know, I was in the Bush White House in the oval office and I think I may have been the only person that's ever done about, but he turned around for a second and, you know, you just don't want to say, so George, what's in the lamp? What kind of lights do you have? So as he turned around, I looked into the shade and it was one of those stupid curly light bulbs. I swear to you if the secret service weren't there, I would have taken a lamp, I would have! Thrown it at the fireplace, Mr. President. But the secret service was there. So I backed off.
GLENN: Yeah, but they're Chinese. Al Gore doesn't care about the Chinese. They don't count. They have more. We'll make more Chinese.
MILLOY: Yeah. I guess, you know, that's ‑‑ with the DDT ban, you know, we killed all the poor Africans, no one cares about them, they can't see them.
GLENN: Yeah. Okay, so I'm interested because you say, and what you can do to stop them, that's in the title of the book, and what you can do to stop them. All right, go ahead.
MILLOY: Well, I think that people first need to educate themselves. This is not about the environment. This is about the left social and political agenda. You need to grab your politicians, local, state, federal by the lapel, shake them until they understand it and people need to get active. While we come home at the end of the day, spend time with our families, have dinner, the greens are out there at those city council meetings, county council meetings, planning commission meetings announcing their agenda and the politicians only see them. You know, we start to make a change with the tea parties, you know, we talked about this before. We need to have green tea parties where people, you know, protest that, you know, the cap and tax that's coming down the road, you know, President Obama wants to put smart meters on our house to ration electricity to us, you know, in the hottest day of the year when you set your thermostat at 72, you know, President Obama through your local utilities is going to reset it to 82. Now, if you want that kind of stuff to happen, you know, don't ‑‑ keep doing what you're doing, but I think that ‑‑
GLENN: People say that that's ‑‑ people say all the time, Steve, that that is ridiculous, that that's never going to happen. I mean, what is it going to take besides it actually happening for people to understand this is what they're going to do? They are going to regulate the temperature in your house for the common good.
MILLOY: Glenn, I have wasted the last 13 years trying to educate people on the science behind the green movement. They haven't taken to that. So now I'm going, well, this is what they're going to do to your lifestyle and they're going to tell you where to live, how many children you can have, where you can work, what kind of car you can drive, how much energy you can use, what kind of food you can eat, how much water you can have, what kind of toilet paper you can use, I mean, they are regulating light bulbs in your house. If people don't understand, then I guess they are going to have to experience it.
GLENN: So Steve, I'm doing a piece tonight on GE and actually ACORN as well and I'm trying to track down all the more than of ACORN and I'm finding all these front organizations, and it's stunning the corruption that is going on and no one is looking for it, nobody wants to find it, nobody wants to see it because everybody is in on making money. When it comes to the green movement, tonight I'm also doing a segment that we started just producing this morning. I saw some of the pieces of it this morning that, you know, you have Jeffrey Immelt coming out and saying about healthcare and green that he's so excited because the future is all about a Fusion of industry and business with the government.
GLENN: And it's going to be great.
MILLOY: Right now ‑‑ well see, you know, and the thing is Jeffrey Immelt, he wants government laws to make people buy his windmills. He wants government laws that, you know, get healthcare off his back because he doesn't want to pay for healthcare for his workers. He would rather have the government do or the taxpayer.
GLENN: But also GE health ‑‑ I mean, GE is going to get so unbelievably wealthy from the federal dollars being spent on GE products.
MILLOY: It's the corpocracy. And this is another thing that people ‑‑ you know, I used to be against antitrust. I think that, you know, we need more antitrust now. We need to split up these big companies because they're cozying up with the government. It's terrible.
GLENN: Objection, Steve, thank you very much. I'll talk to you again. He's the author of Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Ruin Your Life and What You Can Do to Stop Them.