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GLENN: Shawn, are you pro choice?

CALLER: Yes, I am.

GLENN: And you don't think, you don't believe that abortion is murder?

CALLER: I personally do. The reason I'm pro choice

GLENN: What the hell is wrong with this audience? Hang on just a second. I'm going to put you on hold so I'm not saying this to you, Shawn. Hang on just a second.

What the hell is wrong with this audience! It's okay if you don't believe abortion is murder! But if you believe abortion is murder, it's murder! I don't understand how you can make that leap!

I'm sorry. Let me go back to Shawn who I'm not going to argue with. So Shawn, you believe abortion is murder, but you should have the right to do that?

CALLER: I believe, I think we should have the right on the view of the fetus. I believe that there's

GLENN: Answer my question, please. Hang on. Let's not play loopholes here. Answer my question. You believe abortion is murder. Yes or no?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: But you also believe that people should have the right to do what you classify as murder if they choose to?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: If O.J. Simpson said it wasn't murder, would he have the right to do it?

CALLER: I didn't fully if it wasn't murder?

GLENN: No, no, no. No, no. If what you saw him do... allegedly.

CALLER: Allegedly.

GLENN: And you said, allegedly, that's murder, and you saw it as murder but he truly saw cutting someone's head off not as murder, would you give him the right to do it?

CALLER: You are saying that he says it's not murder. I still think that the people that get aborted, that have abortions think it's murder. I think they know what they're doing, just as O.J. Simpson allegedly.

GLENN: I'm not asking about them. I'm asking about you. Would you allow O.J. Simpson, would you say, well, you know what, he can do what he wants. I disagree with it, but he can do what he wants because he doesn't see that as murder.

CALLER: No.

GLENN: What is the difference?

CALLER: The difference is consciousness. Nicole Smith and Goldman, they were alive. They were conscious. They suffered at his hand. The fetus does not suffer during an abortion. I don't believe in late term abortions. I believe that you've got three months to decide. If you find out whether it's a boy or a girl, you no longer have the option. The reason I believe in pro choice is because that fetus will be euthanized without consciousness. I think of little Caylee Anthony. If she was aborted as opposed to murdered, I think it would have been better for her.

GLENN: Okay. So you're saying these are tough decisions that you can't make for everyone, right?

CALLER: That's absolutely true, yes.

GLENN: So is it okay to abort a child as they are doing now in Sweden for sex?

CALLER: No. I think abortion should be allowed but if you find out what the sex is, then you are off the list of allowed to have an abortion because

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Help me out, Shawn.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: Why? Why?

CALLER: Because I think the people that even consider having an abortion have moral problems anyway and if you bring that child to term and they keep that child, they will neglect it, they won't love it. You have children. You know how much love they need. You know they need to be nurtured. If they're not, Glenn, there's worse things than dying. I would rather

GLENN: So hold on just a second. So shouldn't it be that you are for the abortion? Because if they have the sex of the child, it's not the sex that they want, wouldn't it be better to what was it you said? Put them out of their misery or harmlessly or quietly or not letting them suffer, abort them? Wouldn't, to be consistent on your thinking here, shouldn't you be even more for people killing the child because it's not the sex they wanted?

CALLER: No. Because those people, they are going to love that child anyway. The way they think, they're going to that child is going to be in their arms like I've held my children, and you can't not love it.

GLENN: Didn't you just say, didn't you just say that somebody who is wanting that is so morally bankrupt that there are worse things than dying?

CALLER: Yes. But you are not listening to what I'm saying.

GLENN: I'm trying, but you are making my head I may have an aneurysm from trying, but go ahead.

CALLER: Well, I don't want to be the cause of that. I think that

GLENN: I might go out without any kind of suffering.

CALLER: Yeah, but I don't want the cause of it. I do want you, when you go out, to go without suffering.

GLENN: There are worse things than dying. This may be one of them.

Okay. Help me out. As I understand it I want to take a break and then you can come back and explain it, give you a couple of minutes to think.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: As I understand your position, abortion is murder. However, it's up to the individual to decide whether they murder or not. Plus, you're not allowing anyone to murder a fetus I'm using your language murder a fetus if they want to murder it for a sex reason, they wanted a female and instead they are going to have a male, and that's wrong because that child will be born but they'll have the child in their arms and they'll love it anyway. However, somebody who wants to abort a child, they'll abuse that child, neglect that child and there's worse things than dying? You try to think about that one for a second. You try to tie that altogether in one nice package for me that I can understand. Next.

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GLENN: I am fascinated, fascinated by our audience. I am asking people to just explain, if they're pro choice, just explain, in defense or against their position. In Sweden you can now abort a child based on sex. So in other words, you are pregnant with a girl, you want a boy, you can abort that child. Is that wrong? I'm not asking for anybody who is pro life. I got it, yes, it's wrong. I don't need the explanation of why it's wrong. You are already there: Abortion is wrong. I want pro choice people to tell me if that is right or wrong.

Now, we're on with, is it Shawn, Philadelphia. I've given you a couple of minutes to think and then explain so this all works for everybody's head.

CALLER: Okay. You ready?

GLENN: Yes.

CALLER: Anybody that just wants an abortion, "I don't want this child, I want an abortion," their heart is ice and that's it. Anybody that says, oh, I want a baby but I want it to be a little boy and if it's a girl, I'll abort it. They have an ember of nurture in them because they want the child. They've just lost their way. They don't know where they're going. As soon as that baby is born and they see it, that ember of nurture will be fanned into an inferno and they can't resist it.

GLENN: Okay. So I just want to make sure. You say if you don't see the fetus as a child, your heart is ice, right?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: But if you see the fetus as a child but you want a certain kind of child, that means that your heart is softer?

CALLER: Correct.

GLENN: Okay. So one is just exterminating because they don't see it as life at all, they don't see it as a child. They are just removing a tumor from them.

CALLER: Correct.

GLENN: And that makes them ice. But somebody who sees that fetus as a child but wants a specific kind of child, so then wants to kill the child that they see as a child, that somehow or another makes them less ice like than the one who views the fetus as a tumor?

CALLER: In my opinion.

GLENN: Shawn?

CALLER: Yes?

GLENN: Do you still want to have when it was parroted back to you, do you want to say, "Okay, that doesn't work?" Because that's cool. Or do you just, do you stand by that?

CALLER: I still stand by that.

GLENN: Okay. All right, Shawn, God bless you. Thank you very much. Wait, wait, hang on just a second. One more question, Shawn. Are you there still?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Are you making laws based on your opinion?

CALLER: Yes, I am. And to be perfectly honest with you, if it were my opinion, I would love to be benevolent dictator and there would be a lot worse consequences for people that have abortions.

GLENN: Okay, all right. Thanks, Shawn, I appreciate it.

For the first time in the history of "The Glenn Beck Program," former President Donald Trump joined Glenn to give his take on America's direction under President Joe Biden compared to his own administration. He explained why Biden's horrific Afghanistan withdrawal was "not even a little bit" like his plan, and why he thinks it was "the most embarrassing event in the history of our country."

Plus, the former president gave his opinion on China's potential takeover of Bagram Air Base, the Pakistani Prime Minister, and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Glenn asked President Trump how similar the Biden administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan was to his administration's plan.

"Not even a little bit," Trump answered. "We had a great plan, but it was a very tenuous plan. It was based on many conditions. For instance, you can't kill American soldiers. ... You have to understand, I did want to get out. But I wanted to get out with dignity, and I wanted to take our equipment out. And I didn't want soldiers killed. ... What [Biden] did was just indefensible. He took the military out first and he left all the people. And then we became beggars to get the people out. I had a plan to get them out very quickly. But first, the Americans would go out."

Trump told Glenn that his plan included maintaining Bagram Air Base and explained why he would not have left "a single nail" behind in Afghanistan for the Taliban to seize.

"We were going to keep Bagram open," he explained. "We were never going to close that because, frankly, Bagram is more about China than it is about Afghanistan. It was practically on the other border of China. And now we've lost that. And you know who is taking it over? China is taking it over. We spend $10 billion to build that base. It's got the longest, most powerful runways in the world. And China has now got its representatives there and it looks like they'll take it over. Glenn, it's not believable what's happened. You know, they have Apache helicopters. These are really expensive weapons, and they have 28 of them. And they're brand-new. The latest model."

Glenn mentioned recent reports that Gen. Milley, America's top military officer, made "secret phone calls" to his counterpart in China while President Trump was in office.

"I learned early on that he was a dope," Trump said of Gen. Milley. "He made a statement to me — and I guarantee that's what happened to Biden — because I said, 'We're getting out of Afghanistan. We have to do it.' And I said, 'I want every nail. I want every screw. I want every bolt. I want every plane. I want every tank. I want it all out, down to the nails, screws, bolts ... I want every single thing. And he said, 'Sir, it's cheaper to leave it than it is to bring it.'

"The airplane might have cost $40 million, $50 million ... millions and millions of dollars. So, you think it's cheaper to leave it than to have 200 pilots fly over and fly all the equipment out? ... I said, you've got to be nuts. I mean, give me a tank of gas and a pilot and I just picked up a $40 million-dollar airplane. It was amazing. So, I learned early that this guy is a dope. But what he did, is he hurt our country ... and he shouldn't have been allowed to do it. And bad things should happen to him."

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In a shocking but underreported conversation ahead of the G7 Speakers' meeting in London last week, Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted that the administration knows China is committing "genocide" against the Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region, but thinks working with the regime on climate change is more important.

On the radio program, an outraged Glenn Beck dissected Pelosi's speech and broke down how — along with the Biden administration's abandonment of Americans in Afghanistan, and the Democrat decision to follow measures of medical "equity" — the far left is revealing how little they really care about human life.

Glenn played a video clip of Pelosi making the following statement:

We've always felt connected to China, but with their military aggression in the South China Sea, with their continuation of genocide with the Uyghurs in Xinjiang province there, with their violation of the cultural, linguistic, religious priority of Tibet, with their suppression of democracy in Hong Kong and other parts of China, as well – they're just getting worse in terms of suppression, and freedom of speech. So, human rights, security, economically [sic].

Having said all of that ... we have to work together on climate. Climate is an overriding issue and China is the leading emitter in the world, the U.S. too and developed world too, but we must work together.

"We have Nancy Pelosi admitting the United States of America knows that they're not only committing [genocide], they're continuing to commit it. Which means, we've known for a while," Glenn noted. "And what does she say? She goes on to say, yes, they're committing genocide against the Uyghurs, but having said that, I'm quoting, 'the overriding issue,' is working together on climate change.

"Would we have worked with Hitler on climate change? Would we have worked with Hitler on developing the bomb? Would we have worked with Hitler on developing the Autobahn? Would we have worked with Hitler on his socialized medicine? Would we have worked with Hitler on any of his national, socialist ideas?" he asked.

"The answer is no. No. When you're committing genocide, no! She said 'we have to work together on climate,' because climate is the 'overriding issue.' The overriding issue? There is no way to describe this mindset. That, yes, they are killing an entire group of people because of their ethnicity or religion. They are systematically rounding them up, using them for slave labor, and killing them, using their organs and selling them on the open market. They are nothing more than cattle. For us to recognize it and do nothing about it is bad enough. But to say, 'we recognize it, but we have bigger things to talk to them about,' is a horror show."

Glenn went on to urge Americans to "stand up together in love, peace, and harmony," or risk watching our nation become the worst plague on human life yet.

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The fall of Lehman Brothers in 2008 marked the largest bankruptcy filing in U.S. history and economic collapse was felt throughout the world. But now China's own version of Lehman Brothers, Evergrande, is teetering closer and closer to that edge, too. On the radio program Thursday, Glenn Beck gave the latest update and predicted how it will affect Asian markets and what it could mean for America's economy.

Glenn explained why he believes a major collapse that is happening now in China will have a cascading effect into a "controlled collapse," a managed decline that will dramatically change America's economy and the way we all live.

"You will not recognize your lifestyle. Hear me," Glenn warned. "And that's not a right-left thing. That's a right-wrong thing. We're on the wrong track. I'm telling you now, there's new information and you are not going to recognize the American lifestyle. ... It could happen tomorrow. It could happen in five years from now, but it will happen. We are headed for a very different country. One where you don't have the rights that you have. And you certainly don't have the economic privileges that Americans are used to."

"The same thing that happened in 2008 is now happening in China," Glenn continued. "This time, it's going to take everything down. When it collapses, it will take everything down."

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Justin Haskins, editorial director of the Heartland Institute, joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to expose a shocking conversation between two Great Reset proponents — Klaus Schwab, chairman of the World Economic Forum, and Christine Lagarde, president of the European Central Bank (Europe's equivalent to the Fed).

The way Schwab and Lagarde discuss the role central banks should play in establishing societal norms, determining your way of life, and defending against potential crisis is proof that the Great Reset is upon us, Justin explained. And the scariest part is that they're not even trying to hide it. The entire, unbelievable conversation has been published on the WEF website, which you can read here.

Glenn read an excerpt from the conversation:

Christine Lagarde: At the ECB, we have now wrapped up and concluded our strategy review, which was the first one in 17 years. And I was blessed to have an entire Governing Council unanimously agree that the fight against climate change should be one of the considerations that we take when we determine monetary policy. So at least the European Central Bank is of the view that climate change is an important component in order to decide on monetary policy. ...

Can we arrive at that trade-off between fighting climate change, preserving biodiversity and yet securing enough growth to respond to legitimate demands of the population? And my first answer, Klaus, to be firm, is that to have a way of life, we need life. And in the medium term, we do have major threats on the horizon that could cause the death of hundreds of thousands of people. So we have to think life, first. We have to think way of life, second. ...

So we have to think life, first. We have to think way of life, second. How can we come together to make sure that we secure the first priority, which is life, and also protect the way of life that people have? And make sure that the cost of it is not so high for some people, that they just cannot tolerate it. I think that the trade-off that we reach will probably require some redistribution, because it is clear that the most exposed people, the less privileged people are those that are going to need some help.

"Do you understand, America, what that means?" Glenn exclaimed. "You have elites, that you never elected, that are having these meetings ... deciding what is a legitimate need for you. And telling you that your needs are going to go away in your lifetime. You may not see a time where you get wants again. Just your needs are going to be addressed. Am I reading this wrong?"

"This is absolutely what is being said here," Justin agreed. "She's very clear that we need to make sure that way of life is second to life. We have to save all these people, hundreds of thousands of people are going to die from this supposedly existential threat of climate change. And their wants, and their desires, and their quality of living, all of that has to come second."

"This is a central bank saying this. This is not an elected official, who is accountable directly to the people. This is a central bank saying, we're going to print money. We're going to use monetary policy, to impose these ideas, to rework society in order to accomplish our goals," Justin added, addressing Lagarde's call for "some redistribution."

Will Great Reset elites — not elected by the U.S. — soon be dictating to the rest of the world? Watch the video clip below to hear Glenn and Justin break it down:

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