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GLENN: Shawn, are you pro choice?

CALLER: Yes, I am.

GLENN: And you don't think, you don't believe that abortion is murder?

CALLER: I personally do. The reason I'm pro choice

GLENN: What the hell is wrong with this audience? Hang on just a second. I'm going to put you on hold so I'm not saying this to you, Shawn. Hang on just a second.

What the hell is wrong with this audience! It's okay if you don't believe abortion is murder! But if you believe abortion is murder, it's murder! I don't understand how you can make that leap!

I'm sorry. Let me go back to Shawn who I'm not going to argue with. So Shawn, you believe abortion is murder, but you should have the right to do that?

CALLER: I believe, I think we should have the right on the view of the fetus. I believe that there's

GLENN: Answer my question, please. Hang on. Let's not play loopholes here. Answer my question. You believe abortion is murder. Yes or no?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: But you also believe that people should have the right to do what you classify as murder if they choose to?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: If O.J. Simpson said it wasn't murder, would he have the right to do it?

CALLER: I didn't fully if it wasn't murder?

GLENN: No, no, no. No, no. If what you saw him do... allegedly.

CALLER: Allegedly.

GLENN: And you said, allegedly, that's murder, and you saw it as murder but he truly saw cutting someone's head off not as murder, would you give him the right to do it?

CALLER: You are saying that he says it's not murder. I still think that the people that get aborted, that have abortions think it's murder. I think they know what they're doing, just as O.J. Simpson allegedly.

GLENN: I'm not asking about them. I'm asking about you. Would you allow O.J. Simpson, would you say, well, you know what, he can do what he wants. I disagree with it, but he can do what he wants because he doesn't see that as murder.

CALLER: No.

GLENN: What is the difference?

CALLER: The difference is consciousness. Nicole Smith and Goldman, they were alive. They were conscious. They suffered at his hand. The fetus does not suffer during an abortion. I don't believe in late term abortions. I believe that you've got three months to decide. If you find out whether it's a boy or a girl, you no longer have the option. The reason I believe in pro choice is because that fetus will be euthanized without consciousness. I think of little Caylee Anthony. If she was aborted as opposed to murdered, I think it would have been better for her.

GLENN: Okay. So you're saying these are tough decisions that you can't make for everyone, right?

CALLER: That's absolutely true, yes.

GLENN: So is it okay to abort a child as they are doing now in Sweden for sex?

CALLER: No. I think abortion should be allowed but if you find out what the sex is, then you are off the list of allowed to have an abortion because

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Help me out, Shawn.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: Why? Why?

CALLER: Because I think the people that even consider having an abortion have moral problems anyway and if you bring that child to term and they keep that child, they will neglect it, they won't love it. You have children. You know how much love they need. You know they need to be nurtured. If they're not, Glenn, there's worse things than dying. I would rather

GLENN: So hold on just a second. So shouldn't it be that you are for the abortion? Because if they have the sex of the child, it's not the sex that they want, wouldn't it be better to what was it you said? Put them out of their misery or harmlessly or quietly or not letting them suffer, abort them? Wouldn't, to be consistent on your thinking here, shouldn't you be even more for people killing the child because it's not the sex they wanted?

CALLER: No. Because those people, they are going to love that child anyway. The way they think, they're going to that child is going to be in their arms like I've held my children, and you can't not love it.

GLENN: Didn't you just say, didn't you just say that somebody who is wanting that is so morally bankrupt that there are worse things than dying?

CALLER: Yes. But you are not listening to what I'm saying.

GLENN: I'm trying, but you are making my head I may have an aneurysm from trying, but go ahead.

CALLER: Well, I don't want to be the cause of that. I think that

GLENN: I might go out without any kind of suffering.

CALLER: Yeah, but I don't want the cause of it. I do want you, when you go out, to go without suffering.

GLENN: There are worse things than dying. This may be one of them.

Okay. Help me out. As I understand it I want to take a break and then you can come back and explain it, give you a couple of minutes to think.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: As I understand your position, abortion is murder. However, it's up to the individual to decide whether they murder or not. Plus, you're not allowing anyone to murder a fetus I'm using your language murder a fetus if they want to murder it for a sex reason, they wanted a female and instead they are going to have a male, and that's wrong because that child will be born but they'll have the child in their arms and they'll love it anyway. However, somebody who wants to abort a child, they'll abuse that child, neglect that child and there's worse things than dying? You try to think about that one for a second. You try to tie that altogether in one nice package for me that I can understand. Next.

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GLENN: I am fascinated, fascinated by our audience. I am asking people to just explain, if they're pro choice, just explain, in defense or against their position. In Sweden you can now abort a child based on sex. So in other words, you are pregnant with a girl, you want a boy, you can abort that child. Is that wrong? I'm not asking for anybody who is pro life. I got it, yes, it's wrong. I don't need the explanation of why it's wrong. You are already there: Abortion is wrong. I want pro choice people to tell me if that is right or wrong.

Now, we're on with, is it Shawn, Philadelphia. I've given you a couple of minutes to think and then explain so this all works for everybody's head.

CALLER: Okay. You ready?

GLENN: Yes.

CALLER: Anybody that just wants an abortion, "I don't want this child, I want an abortion," their heart is ice and that's it. Anybody that says, oh, I want a baby but I want it to be a little boy and if it's a girl, I'll abort it. They have an ember of nurture in them because they want the child. They've just lost their way. They don't know where they're going. As soon as that baby is born and they see it, that ember of nurture will be fanned into an inferno and they can't resist it.

GLENN: Okay. So I just want to make sure. You say if you don't see the fetus as a child, your heart is ice, right?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: But if you see the fetus as a child but you want a certain kind of child, that means that your heart is softer?

CALLER: Correct.

GLENN: Okay. So one is just exterminating because they don't see it as life at all, they don't see it as a child. They are just removing a tumor from them.

CALLER: Correct.

GLENN: And that makes them ice. But somebody who sees that fetus as a child but wants a specific kind of child, so then wants to kill the child that they see as a child, that somehow or another makes them less ice like than the one who views the fetus as a tumor?

CALLER: In my opinion.

GLENN: Shawn?

CALLER: Yes?

GLENN: Do you still want to have when it was parroted back to you, do you want to say, "Okay, that doesn't work?" Because that's cool. Or do you just, do you stand by that?

CALLER: I still stand by that.

GLENN: Okay. All right, Shawn, God bless you. Thank you very much. Wait, wait, hang on just a second. One more question, Shawn. Are you there still?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Are you making laws based on your opinion?

CALLER: Yes, I am. And to be perfectly honest with you, if it were my opinion, I would love to be benevolent dictator and there would be a lot worse consequences for people that have abortions.

GLENN: Okay, all right. Thanks, Shawn, I appreciate it.

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The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.

The Hong Kong protesters flocking to the streets in opposition to the Chinese government have a new symbol to display their defiance: the Stars and Stripes. Upset over the looming threat to their freedom, the American flag symbolizes everything they cherish and are fighting to preserve.

But it seems our president isn't returning the love.

Trump recently doubled down on the United States' indifference to the conflict, after initially commenting that whatever happens is between Hong Kong and China alone. But he's wrong — what happens is crucial in spreading the liberal values that America wants to accompany us on the world stage. After all, "America First" doesn't mean merely focusing on our own domestic problems. It means supporting liberal democracy everywhere.

The protests have been raging on the streets since April, when the government of Hong Kong proposed an extradition bill that would have allowed them to send accused criminals to be tried in mainland China. Of course, when dealing with a communist regime, that's a terrifying prospect — and one that threatens the judicial independence of the city. Thankfully, the protesters succeeded in getting Hong Kong's leaders to suspend the bill from consideration. But everyone knew that the bill was a blatant attempt by the Chinese government to encroach on Hong Kong's autonomy. And now Hong Kong's people are demanding full-on democratic reforms to halt any similar moves in the future.

After a generation under the "one country, two systems" policy, the people of Hong Kong are accustomed to much greater political and economic freedom relative to the rest of China. For the protesters, it's about more than a single bill. Resisting Xi Jinping and the Communist Party means the survival of a liberal democracy within distance of China's totalitarian grasp — a goal that should be shared by the United States. Instead, President Trump has retreated to his administration's flawed "America First" mindset.

This is an ideal opportunity for the United States to assert our strength by supporting democratic values abroad. In his inaugural address, Trump said he wanted "friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world" while "understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their interests first." But at what point is respecting sovereignty enabling dictatorships? American interests are shaped by the principles of our founding: political freedom, free markets, and human rights. Conversely, the interests of China's Communist Party are the exact opposite. When these values come into conflict, as they have in Hong Kong, it's our responsibility to take a stand for freedom — even if those who need it aren't within our country's borders.

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Let's join the people of Hong Kong in their defiance of tyranny.

Matt Liles is a writer and Young Voices contributor from Austin, Texas.

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