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GLENN: Let me go to Kathy in Massachusetts which is having a great time with that universal healthcare from Mitt Romney, a Republican. Hi, Kathy, go ahead.
CALLER: Hi. That's right, Glenn. I think you better pick your head up and put it back on your shoulders because it's rolling all over the ground right now.
CALLER: We've got people out there that are really sick that do need healthcare.
GLENN: Oh, my goodness.
CALLER: And when people like you ‑‑
CALLER: Turn around and subject people to this kind of rhetoric that don't have insurance because they can't afford it and they have been laid off.
GLENN: I know.
CALLER: Where do they get it and actually ‑‑
GLENN: Where do they get it?
CALLER: You know, your family, let me tell you something, Glenn. Obviously nobody in your family has had an illness that they couldn't treated before.
GLENN: None. My family has ever, ever had an illness, you are right, and anybody ‑‑ you know what, Kathy? You are so right ‑‑
CALLER: I didn't say ever had an illness. I said ever had ‑‑
GLENN: Oh, that they couldn't pay for? You are right. I read in the story all the time about the people who are dying on the streets because they can't go to a hospital and get healthcare. You are exactly right. We are letting people die left and right in this country.
CALLER: We can't afford any more ‑‑
GLENN: Oh, we can't afford anymore. So you must be ‑‑
CALLER: They can't afford it. They are going broke. They are closing their doors.
GLENN: You are right. And that's why the country can afford it. The country can afford it. Don't worry about that going broke. Don't worry about that.
CALLER: The only industrial country in this world ‑‑
CALLER: In this world.
GLENN: That doesn't have healthcare. What the hell is wrong?
GLENN: And this is the only country where all the other leaders come to get healthcare when they can't get the right kind of healthcare in their own country. We have presidents, we have prime ministers, we have speakers of the parliament in Australia that can't get the prostate treatments and have to come to this country to get it. So you are right, you are right. We should adapt all of those things. And Canada has a great healthcare. That's why people are suing. That's why in Canada they have a lottery. They have a lottery system. Who gets to go see a doctor this month in Canada? Go ahead.
CALLER: How about the Netherlands, Glenn?
GLENN: How about the Netherlands?
CALLER: How about France and Italy where you just go and sign a paper and the doctors don't have to fight with the insurance companies.
GLENN: Tell me, Kathy, about the insurance program that they do have in France. Tell me about it.
CALLER: There are people that go over there and they are on vacation. If they have a problem, all they have to do is walk into the clinics or the hospitals and sign their name. The doctors do not have to be bothered signing insurance forms or dealing with insurance ‑‑
GLENN: So in other words, if a person ‑‑ hang on. I want to make sure I understand. So a noncitizen can go over to a hospital and walk in and get emergency treatment! That never happens here!
CALLER: I'm asking you a logical question, and you are not ‑‑
GLENN: I'm giving you a logical answer.
CALLER: You don't have logic.
GLENN: You are right.
CALLER: Where's your logic? What would you do? I'm asking you, what would you do to change this healthcare system for the better? After all, every time you people bring up costs, you don't care about the trillions of dollars to bail out the banks and all the credit card companies that are ‑‑
GLENN: Kathy, get off my phone! Get off my phone, you little pinhead! I don't care? "You people don't care about the trillions." Get off my phone! I'm going to lose my mind today!
STU: Never listened to this show. She's never listened to it.
GLENN: Never listened to the show, and she's from Massachusetts. Pat, tell me what's happening in Massachusetts today.
GLENN: Tell me, do you know? Tell me about healthcare. Who knows? Who knows?
STU: Oh, yes. Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants.
GLENN: Illegal. Legal.
PAT: Legal immigrants are being dropped from the healthcare system.
STU: Permanent citizens, correct?
PAT: We understood was it's people here on student Visas, it's here on work permits, all of those. They are legal in the country.
GLENN: Legal, legally here.
PAT: Immigrated here and they are being dropped from the rolls because Massachusetts can't afford it.
GLENN: Can't afford it in their universal program.
PAT: Yep, can't afford it.
GLENN: Legal immigrants are being dropped. "But you don't care, Glenn, about anybody spending a trillion dollars."
PAT: They don't understand it can't be done.
STU: And also that's a person that has either never ‑‑ has never listened to the radio show, has never watched the television show because all we do is complain about bailouts. And I can tell you specifically the story she told about walking into a clinic in France when you're on vacation is almost word for word directly out of Sicko by Michael Moore. That's a bad example.
GLENN: And let me just point this out. When I asked her about the health insurance in France, she went immediately to the government health insurance. Have to look up the exact stat here but I believe there ‑‑ do you have it, Stu? Do you know where I'm going? Is this from argument? We have a new book coming out in September and I'll tell you about it, but it's Argument against the Idiots and it is the best book we've ever done. Would you disagree with that?
STU: Yeah. Well, I haven't read the entire thing but what I've read, I love.
GLENN: Oh, I think it's the best book we've ever done, and I'll get into it later. But it has these arguments. Idiots like this woman, and we took all of the arguments and we answered them with all of the facts and logic that she doesn't think we have. Do you have the stat?
STU: If it's the one I'm thinking, at least the way I was going from your thought is correct that, yes, there's government insurance in France, but 90% of people in France purchase complementary private insurance because they hate the system so much. They also are paying, I want to say ‑‑ I don't have that number in front of me ‑‑ 13% of their price out of pocket anyway of the cost of their healthcare and they're also paying 19% of their earnings. 19% of their earnings just to pay for healthcare.
PAT: And then they don't like ‑‑ plus they have to get their own health insurance.
GLENN: Plus private health insurance, plus. And it's still not what we have. What this country is doing is they are leveling the playing field, leveling the playing field. Well, when you level the playing field, nobody's ‑‑ you notice nobody's talking about bringing everybody up to the standard of the rich.
GLENN: They are going to bring it down so everyone has the same crappy standard. Well, I got news for you, gang, that's not the way a country progresses. That is the way a country goes out of business. This is the way ‑‑ somebody has got to look at this country as a business because I hate to bring it up, but this country changed the world. We were crappin' in the woods. We were spending our whole day trying to plant fields. We were reading, if you could read, in the dark by a candle. Of course, we didn't have as much CO2 back then. But we changed the world. Now, if you want to give up ‑‑ the question you have to ask yourself: Is capitalism dead, yes or no. Understand that freedom and capitalism go hand in hand. You cannot dissever them. You cannot pull them apart. You cannot have freedom without capitalism, you cannot have capitalism without freedom. You can have corrupt capitalism if you have corrupt people living freely. But you cannot have freedom without capitalism and vice versa.&nbs p; So the question to you today is are you done yet. Are you done yet? Is capitalism done? And if not, have you given up? Or have you not yet begun to fight? Because I got news for ya: I am going down swinging, jack, and it is time more people get off their ass and surround the capitol and say enough! You are not taking my country and driving it into the ground.