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GLENN: Let me go to Jill in Ithaca. Hello, Jill, you are on the Glenn Beck program.
CALLER: Yes, why don't you really tell people the choices they would have under the proposed healthcare plan. Why do you make it sound like it's a dictatorship? Why do you do that?
GLENN: Well, because I happen to believe that we are headed towards a dictatorship.
CALLER: Well, you couldn't ‑‑ could you prove that in court?
GLENN: No, but I could make a very strong case, Jill.
CALLER: Well, you haven't yet. You are just trying to scare the American people.
GLENN: Okay. What is ‑‑ take away ‑‑ take some of the things that I have talked about and challenge them. Go ahead and take them piece by piece on the case that I have made that we're headed towards a dictatorship.
CALLER: Why don't you give me one to start, Glenn.
GLENN: Okay, because see, what I'm doing here, Jill, is just proving to the audience that you don't listen to this show. You don't know who I am.
CALLER: I listen occasionally. I don't listen to you ‑‑
GLENN: Oh, it's occasionally.
CALLER: Yes. It's annoying, number one. Number two, I just listen to see what you guys are up to to scare the American people.
GLENN: No, I'm not trying to scare them. I'm making a case, Jill, and I have said on this program, which you would have known if you had listened to me. If you disagree, I would like to hear the argument. And please, take the things that I have presented and show me where I'm wrong because I want to be wrong, Jill. I do want to be wrong. I wanted to be wrong about George W. Bush, but I wasn't. And it's weird because, Jill, you would have agreed with me on George W. Bush. But now that it's your guy ‑‑ pardon me?
CALLER: Excuse me? You weren't wrong about him? Or you were wrong about him?
GLENN: Oh, no, I wasn't wrong about George W. Bush. I thought George W. Bush was taking us into a nightmare scenario. I warned about George W. Bush on the border, I warned about his spending, I warned that he was a progressive president, that he was opening the door. He's the guy that opened the door for all of this.
CALLER: Did you encourage people to vote for him in 2004?
GLENN: Oh, sure, I absolutely did. And then got on the air in 2005 and said what a terrible mistake I had made. Yeah.
CALLER: And you couldn't figure that in the first four years? You didn't see that the first four years?
GLENN: No, I didn't quite honestly, Jill, because I have blinded ‑‑ Jill, Jill, Jill, Jill, Jill, Jill, would you like to have a conversation and hear this? Or do you just want to spew your propaganda points?
CALLER: No, I don't want to practice your ‑‑ I'll have a conversation.
GLENN: Okay, good. I didn't see it because quite honestly I was blinded by September 11th. And I believed that we were ‑‑ and I still do ‑‑ that we have gigantic enemies across the sea that would like to destroy us. And I didn't believe ‑‑ excuse me, Jill. I think this is my time. I didn't believe that the Democrats even understood the enemies that we faced. I still don't think they do. I think quite honestly I think Barack Obama is in bed with some of our enemies. He's at least encouraging them. We're making deals with Syria? What is that all about? So I was blinded by September 11th to some of the other things that I wasn't for. I made a choice, and that was really the wrong choice. And I at least had the courage to say those things on the air because, see, I'm not about parties, Jill, but apparently you are.
CALLER: No, I'm about American rights and not being spied on by FISA, things like that.
GLENN: Oh, you're about ‑‑ FISA. So in other words, the ‑‑
PAT: That's still going on, by the way.
GLENN: Does the same thing that Obama, the thing that Obama said he was against but then went and renewed, you are against?
CALLER: I'm not about parties, either. So ‑‑
GLENN: Okay, so wait a minute. So you're against Obama for that same thing?
CALLER: I guess we agree on that one.
GLENN: So you'll admit your mistake for going after George W. Bush and voting for Obama because he was against that? You'll admit that mistake?
CALLER: No. Because I was ‑‑
GLENN: Oh! What a surprise double standard.
PAT: I didn't see it coming!
GLENN: I admitted my mistake but you won't do that on yours.
CALLER: It's a mistake. I'm admitting that single mistake.
GLENN: So it was a mistake for you to come out against George W. Bush and support Obama on that. Were you blind or did he just lie to you?
CALLER: I guess he wasn't as ‑‑ he wasn't honest, you are right. Or he had other ‑‑
GLENN: No, no, he wasn't as honest. He either lied to you or he did not. Did he lie to you?
GLENN: He lied to you? Okay, good.
CALLER: On that one.
GLENN: So then we've got one. We have one that we agree on. Look at this. [ APPLAUSE ]. We're coming together, bringing people together, Jill. Now give me one topic ‑‑
CALLER: Let me about ask you lying. Did you lie on The View about what happened?
GLENN: Oh, wow. Jill, you missed the independent investigative reporter that proved that I was telling the truth!
STU: From Amtrak, a statement from Amtrak.
GLENN: A statement from Amtrak.
STU: You should listen more than occasionally, shouldn't you, Jill?
GLENN: Isn't that weird.
CALLER: No, I can do what I want because I'm an American.
STU: Be stupid. That's what ‑‑
GLENN: No, you can go ahead and be ill informed and then come and bring bogus facts to the table.
CALLER: Where is that independent ‑‑ I'll look it up.
GLENN: Okay, go ahead. Fine. Stu, where would she find the independent ‑‑ where would she find that report?
STU: We'll put it in our free e‑mail newsletter that we want your e‑mail address on.
GLENN: That we would love e‑mail address on at GlennBeck.com. You can find it through Breitbart News.
STU: It was only 17 minutes long. So it might not have been in‑depth for you.
GLENN: Yeah, it might not have been in‑depth enough.
CALLER: Well, you don't know me. You shouldn't make a comment like that, Glenn.
GLENN: Oh, well, I'm sorry. I just thought you were making a comment about me being a liar on The View.
STU: The only problem is we only listen to Jill occasionally. We don't have all the facts apparently.
GLENN: So Jill, may I ask you this question?
CALLER: You can ask.
GLENN: Oh, well, thank you very much.
GLENN: I'd like to know that when you see the evidence by an independent investigative reporter and it shows that Amtrak made special accommodations for Whoopi Goldberg, et cetera, will you then apologize to me? Hello?