GLENN: I have to start with John Conyers. John Conyers actually no nonparity sort of way actually said this
CONYERS: I love these members that get up and say, "Read the bill."
GLENN: Stop, stop. This sound like a comedy show, doesn't it? Doesn't it sound like, I love these ‑‑ so this congress member came up to me and said, "Read the bill (laughing)." Yeah.
PAT: Why would you do that?
GLENN: Why would you ‑‑ I love these guys, "Read the bill." It's crazy.
CONYERS: The bill, if it's 1,000 pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill.
GLENN: Have you not heard that yet, Stu? This is great.
PAT: Is he not a lawyer?
GLENN: Play it again. Of course, he's the head of the judiciary committee.
PAT: Yes, he is.
GLENN: Here it is.
CONYERS: I love these members that get up and say, "Read the bill." What good is reading the bill if it's 1,000 pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill.
GLENN: So he's just going to sign it!
GLENN: So the solution is, no, no, no, I need two attorneys. It's 1,000 pages. I need more time. I'm not going to sign this. His Lucian is just sign it.
STU: Luckily, though, we are in a system where our president has promised us five days of time to look over every bill and post it online so we can ‑‑
GLENN: Yeah. And that doesn't happen. That didn't ‑‑ no.
STU: No, he said he was going to post them online, all look at them. So you can more than two days of lawyers. It's twice as much time as he needed.
GLENN: Do you have the audio? We played it last night on TV. Have you put the audio in the audio vault of Barack Obama actually ‑‑ no, you don't.
PAT: I was just looking for it. When he was complaining about Bush?
GLENN: When he was complaining about ‑‑ it was on NewsBusters, I think? Is that the conservative site?
STU: Yeah, yeah.
GLENN: NewsBusters. They posted it yesterday, I think. Of senator‑elect Obama saying, you know what the problem is; this administration just rushes these giant bills through congress. Nobody has any chance to read them. And Randi Rhodes is, "Yeah, I know, that, also, one was 14 pounds." I know. Well, that's when accidents happen. This has got to stop.
PAT: I think I have it.
VOICE: NewsBusters.org posting a November 2004 interview with Air America's Randi Rhodes where Senator Obama complains about the Bush administration.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: When you rush these budgets that are a foot high and nobody has any idea what's in them and nobody's read them.
RHODES: 14 pounds it was.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Yeah, and it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate, then these kinds of things happen. And I think this is in some ways what happened with the PATRIOT Act. I mean, you're ‑‑
GLENN: Unbelievable. I'm going to weigh the bills. I want to weigh all of the bills. 14 pounds! Oh, I'd like to weigh the other ones.
STU: You've got to love NewsBusters. They catch everything. It's such a needle in the administration. They just hate that.
GLENN: Just the worst.
STU: Don't you hate when you say things on record and people go back and look at them? When you're actually ‑‑
GLENN: No, I don't mind, I don't mind that unless I've been a complete and total hypocrite and I don't have a reasonable explanation for changing my point of view.
STU: There is a reasonable explanation. He's in power now. That's the explanation.
GLENN: Yes, yes, okay. That's all I was asking for.