Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies by Michelle Malkin
GLENN: We have Michelle Malkin on the phone. She is author of Culture of Corruption: Tax, Cheats, Crooks and Cronies and she's with me now because I wanted to talk to her a little bit about the czar situation that we have going on in country. Hello, Michelle, how are you?
MALKIN: Good. How are you, Glenn?
GLENN: I'm very good.
GLENN: You are the ‑‑ everybody, all the engineers are on the other side of the room on the other side of the glass high‑fiving each other because you are the first phone call we've taken in the new studio and we weren't sure it was going to work.
GLENN: For a long time I was trying to figure out what is this government doing, what is this administration doing, none of this stuff makes sense and then the guy at ACORN pissed me off and so I was like, oh, really? And I couldn't figure out why you would behave the way he behaved on my program and so I really started to buckle down and really look into everything and that's when it all started to unravel. And now I'm seeing these czars, and the czars are truly frightening. And I know you talk about them a bit in your book. Give me a ‑‑ give the American people an update on who these people are.
MALKIN: Yeah. Well, there are upwards of 44 of them now, at least that's the count of the watchdogs in the blogosphere that have been installed into office through presidential appointment and it is, as you've said on your show and I've said many times over the course of the last six months a complete shadow government. And it's not just the amount of them. It's also the superfluousness. We all know that there have been czars in past administrations, Homeland Security czar, drug czar, et cetera, but there are so many extra layers here of overlords who have usurped authority from confirmed cabinet appointments, and this includes a very shady character, Adolfo Carrion, who was the Bronx Borough President and delivered Latino votes to Obama in that neighborhood. This guy is now the urban czar who has many more powers over the already confirmed Housing and Urban Development secretary Shaun Donovan. One, it was a payoff and two, it's a way for Adolfo Carrion to carry out the same kind of "Pay for play" deals that he specialized in when he was the Bronx Borough President. Now he can use millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants to pay off developers who are seeking favors from the Obama administration.
MALKIN: That's just one example.
GLENN: There are three ways, I want to talk to you about three different options here. Hang on, let me just run them down because I'm riddled with ADD and I don't want to forget them. And ‑‑ okay, I got it. The first option with these czars is they're a collection of stupid people. They're a collection of people that are just like the ambassadors. A lot of times presidents will say, oh, jeez, here's a guy from high school and he helped raise money and, you know, we're friends, but he's a pain in the ass; can we send him to Zimbabwe. And so they give him a presidential appointment to become the ambassador of Zimbabwe and they just make the guy go away. And he has no real power and it's just, you know, it's a favor for somebody. The second thing is that this is ‑‑ we are developing a Chicago‑like system in our republic that we are developing a system here that is going to be just dirty, underhanded, and Chicago politics. The third is really on the road to crazy town and that is a lot of these people are evil people that just have no respect for the republic in any way, shape or form and are going to fundamentally transform the nation and feast on the republic until they have an emergency that they just don't want to, they just don't want to waste and they will have all of the pieces that they need to start some engine of somethin g we don't want to see started up. Which is it you think?
MALKIN: I think it's a little bit of both but more of number two and number three. And I think number three obviously concerns all of us the most. There are a number of czars that I've reported on, some not in the book, some on my blog post, who are the worst of the far left ideological fellow travelers of Barack Obama that have been able to evade public scrutiny. And number one on that list is the science czar, John Holdren. And it's only through the power of blogs and talk radio and Fox News that anybody knows anything at all about this population control freak. It's not just the fact that he co‑wrote a book in 1977, Ecoscience with Paul and Ann Ehrlich, the gurus. Population control, a book that mused openly about mass sterilizations, forced abortions, putting sterilants in the water to control the population. It's the fact that his ideological mentors, John Holdren's mentors include one of the top international eugenics members most renowned, again, for promoting these same ideas of social engineering through the guise of quote/unquote science that basically amounts to eugenics and taking away babies from quote/unquote undesirables. He was paying homage to this mentor as recently as two years ago at one of the most prominent science gatherings of the country, the AAAS gathering, and there has been little, if any public questioning about it. I was on t he phone with Holdren's flack who lectured me about the need for responsible journalism. This guy was a leftwinger science reporter at the Washington Post for 15 years and he is essentially bullying any blogger or independent journalist who looks into the issue.
GLENN: I tell you, Michelle, I'm concerned about our country for several reasons, but the intellectual dishonesty of both the right and the left frighten me because people cannot be honest with themselves if their party is at stake. These, some of these czars have things that are so frightening in their past that no American ‑‑ if these guys were being appointed by George W. Bush, the left would be on fire with this and they would be calling them Nazis and everything else. But now that they are being appointed by Barack Obama, there's nothing, and it is a ‑‑ we are becoming a thugocracy where it is just nonstop bullying. When the facts speak for themselves ‑‑ you know, Pat came in this morning ‑‑ Michelle, say hi to one of my producers and my best friend Pat.
MALKIN: Howdy, Pat.
PAT: Hey, Michelle.
GLENN: He came in this morning and he said, do you know this about Holdren, the science czar?
PAT: Apparently not only was he in favor of zero population growth but also zero economic growth. He wanted a zero GDP, and one of the quotes in the book that he co‑wrote, Ecoscience: Population, Resources and Environment was, it is now abundantly clear that the GNP cannot grow forever. Why should it? Why should we not strive for zero economic growth as well as zero population growth.
GLENN: Strive. Strive for it.
MALKIN: Yeah. It's all about control. It's all about seeing the human population as utilitarian means towards their ideological end. And there's another outfit, CNS news, Terry Jeffrey who is a good friend of mine who's also looked into another textbook that John Holdren was written as well. John Holdren's mentor Harrison Brown saw the world population as, quote, a pulsating mass of maggots, unquote. And I would like to see the day in Washington where we have watchdog journalists who apply a Holdren litmus test to Democrats and liberal journalists the way that we have a litmus test that we've seen every time a conservative or a Republican goes on the airwaves about this birther situation. You know, this is even more scary and more radical and more wacky than anything else the liberals are paying attention to with regard to the birtherism stuff, but you don't see that litmus stuff.
GLENN: I have to tell you, the ‑‑ I mean, first of all, the birther thing, what are you going to do. Even if it was true, what, are you going to take him out of office? You can't do that. There's so many things that are going on that are not on the fringes, not conspiratorial. These guys who are these czars, you look at Van Jones. Here he is one of the founding members of the Apollo project. When you find out about the Apollo project and know that the Apollo project and the Tides Foundation came as a direct response of the Reagan revolution where they said you know what, Reagan, he's just been ‑‑ he's taken this country over because he has control of the corporations, so we need to get control of the corporations. The Apollo project is started. You can't look at any of the books. You don't know exactly what they're doing, but the guy who started the Apollo project or one of the founding members is Van Jones, a communist and a black nationalist, and it's the Apollo project that actually wrote the stimulus package.
MALKIN: That's right. Basically you have installed as a czar a welfare state mobster who's been underwritten by the deep pockets of the far left and, of course, he has a lot in common with another most prominent hard leftist who's a czar, Carol Browner. And I recall that you had also highlighted the fact that she was an official member of a socialist organization. So we have the far leftists on one side.
GLENN: I'll take the socialist, at this point I'll take the socialist.
MALKIN: That's right, she's button up compared to Van Jones. But you know what's fascinating to me is that you've got this conglomerate of far leftists and then you also have these entrenched corporate statists and we've got Nancy DeParle who I highlight in the book who is the healthcare czar who oversees the cabinet confirmed secretary Kathleen Sebelius who is out there sort of as a seat warmer in the public face. But behind the scenes this is the woman who is really pulling the strings and she's made upwards of $6 million consulting for healthcare lobbyists and firms. I don't have a problem with that but, of course, she serves a president and a first lady by extension who have done nothing but demonize people who have made money in the private market. And the issue there, of course, goes back to transparency. The White House has been meeting in secret with these healthcare executives. Only under threat of lawsuit did they name those executives. The legal counsel still refuses to tell us which healthcare officials in the Obama administration met with them and she has clear conflicts of interest, financial ties to many of these executives. We need to know that but unfortunately Obama lied and transparency died.
GLENN: I will tell you, I will tell you, Michelle, I don't know what you're talking about, these evil corporations. I have no idea what that could possibly...
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GLENN: GE, we bring evil to life. Michelle, I appreciate it. By the way, if anybody is looking to do something about the czars, they just announced, is it in the House or the Senate, Pat?
PAT: The house. H.R. 3226 they are trying to cut off funding.
MALKIN: That's right. Jack Kingston has the Czar Accountability and Reform Act, and it would bar the use of appropriated funds for any of these offices or salaries, task forces related to the czars.
GLENN: Do we have any idea how much these guys are making, how much they are ‑‑ because it's, from what I understand it is all under one big lump sum that goes to the administration and then they can divvy it up any way they want.
MALKIN: We don't know the budget, we don't know the staff. But you can go to the White House website and find the salaries. And every one of these czars that's a White House employee is among the highest paid.
GLENN: Unbelievable. All right, Michelle, thanks.
GLENN: Okay, Michelle Malkin, Culture of Corruption is the name of the book.