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GLENN: Overlooking Times Square, Midtown Manhattan, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. My name is Glenn Beck. Glad you're here. I want to introduce you to somebody. I don't think I've ever talked to him before. Don Wade is a guy that I wanted to be in radio when I was 8 years old and I grew up in Seattle, Washington, and Seattle has always had some of the best radio talent in the country, especially during the Sixties and the Seventies, and one of my heroes was Charlie Brown, and I actually got to work with him when he put KUBE in Seattle on the air. But he was at KJR, and he's a legend. Bruce Murdock was over at KING. And on a radio station called KTAR was a guy named Don Wade. I listened to when I moved to the Puyallup area from Mount Vernon, I couldn't get KTAC down in Mount Vernon. I had to move down to Puyallup, and I got closer to Tacoma and I listened to Don Wade, and he was the best radio talent I had ever heard and maybe one of the best radio talents that I've ever experienced on a daily basis. This guy is really good. Now, he's no longer doing what he was doing. Nobody is doing what they were doing back in the Seventie s and Eighties. Now he in 1985 he moved to Chicago and went on WLS, which he replaced Lujack, did he not, back in 1985? Another legend, and he's been there ever since. He is a guy who is nonpartisan and takes on both sides. And I mean, the guy's been fired more places than I think anybody else has ever been fired, and it's because he speaks the truth as he sees it.
Don Wade, what a pleasure to welcome you to the program, sir.
GLENN: How are you?
WADE: Glenn, it's like I know you from...
GLENN: You don't know me.
WADE: Last night.
GLENN: You don't know me.
WADE: I watch you on TV all the time. I love your TV show.
WADE: I can't listen to you on the radio because, you know, I do a radio show and I'm you know, and I never listen to the radio.
GLENN: Yeah. You had Charlie Gibson on.
GLENN: How blown away let's play a little bit of the first of all, this is the question on ACORN. Play the Charlie Gibson answer to Don Wade when he says, so what's up with no coverage on ABC.
GLENN: Hang on.
GLENN: See, Don, in network radio we don't
WADE: I asked him why nobody's reporting about that.
GLENN: Yeah. And in local radio I know you have that audiotape ready for you right there, but network radio it's a little different.
WADE: You guys
GLENN: Here it is. Here it is, go ahead.
WADE: Okay, here's my news question. Senate bill yesterday passes cutting off funds to this group called ACORN. Now, we've got the we've got that bill passed and we have the embarrassing video of ACORN staffers giving tax advice on how to set up a brothel with 13 year old hookers. It has everything you could want, corruption and sleazy action, tax funded organizations, it's got government ties, but nobody's covering that story. Why?
GIBSON: I don't even know about it. So you've got me at a loss. I don't know.
GLENN: Okay, stop, stop.
GLENN: I mean, how stunned were you?
WADE: Well, I am a simple guy, Glenn. You know, I read the paper, I go online, I listen, I watch. I love watching your show. I see Glenn Beck on, you know, on Fox News doing the ACORN video of the day, the updates every day and it gets worse and worse and worse. You got the 13 year old hookers and then you find out ACORN is the central player in the Community Reinvestment Act profiting as our economy nose dives and they were, you know, like the termites in the basement eating up the foundation and they got all our tax money and they're investigating voter fraud on a massive scale and they got ACORN convictions in multiple cities, and I'm sitting there wondering, well, I've got to ask Charlie a fair question. Because he's not the only one who's not reporting it. The other networks aren't reporting much, either. And so I just thought, well, I'll ask him a fair question. I'll say, Charlie, why isn't anybody reporting that. When he answered the way he answered, I looked at Roma, she looked at me. Her mouth was wide open. My jaw had hit the console, and we looked and just said, I can't believe he said that. I just... we just could not believe he said it because we talk with Charlie every week. Tuesdays with Charlie. And he's a decent, nice guy.
GLENN: He is.
WADE: And I don't know that he has ever lied to me. So I
GLENN: I doubt he has. He is a decent man.
WADE: I don't think, I don't think that he lied. I truly believe he just wasn't aware of the story. And I the only way and I can't read his heart. I don't know. I don't know, but I truly believe it's an indication of the diminishing role of the evening news on networks. That the anchor is a guy who walks in, the work is all done, the producers have done it all and all he does is sit there and read.
GLENN: Don, do you think that that is because I don't think it's just the evening news that is out of touch. I think, you know, the mainstream media is no longer mainstream. It's no longer the fourth branch of government as a check and balance. It is just the fourth branch of government. I mean, that's all it is. It's just, it's become a propaganda machine.
GLENN: Where all of these people that say, you know, well, we were raised on the meat and potatoes of Watergate. No, they weren't. Where are they? Where are these journalists that are supposed to be that have told us for the last ten years that they have a distrust and that's what they're supposed to do: Distrust the government and hold their feet to the fire and go in and make them accountable? Where is that?
WADE: Well, the guys in the trench coats and the little press thing and the hat, they are supposed to have what I always thought was an adversarial relationship
WADE: with anyone in power.
GLENN: They don't.
WADE: And they don't. They become pals with them because they get treated really well. They get to fly on Air Force One and they go on vacations with these people and it's hard to be a hard hitting skeptic when they put their arms around you and they say, hey, come on, you know.
GLENN: Let me ask you this, because you also followed it up with the tea party. And here's what Charlie Gibson said about the tea party movement.
WADE: Wasn't your face in the multitude that was marching in Washington D.C. over the weekend?
VOICE: The conservative Woodstock?
WADE: Weren't you holding a sign marching saying something down with the government or wasn't that you?
GIBSON: I was up sailing in the waters of Maine this past weekend.
VOICE: What a nice thing. Was it cold?
GIBSON: Purposely oblivious to all of this. It was exquisitely beautiful.
GLENN: Stop. Stop, stop.
GLENN: Purposely oblivious.
GLENN: We are we had the University of Indiana. They have this computer program where they can count the number of bodies, you know, in a picture.
GLENN: 1.7 million people is what the number that they came up with. 1.7 million. And a newscaster is saying I am purposely oblivious to 1.7 let's just say it was 400,000 people. 400,000 people on the mall that feel like they've lost their liberty and are about to lose their country. Is that something that a newscaster should be purposely oblivious to?
WADE: No, no, no. Previously if there were a march on Washington D.C. and it was just about any other group, a week prior, the network news would be talking about the upcoming march. And they go out and interview various people across the country: Well, why are you going to the march? And, oh, you're taking the kids? Oh, that's terrific. And what you know, and, oh, these are the signs you are making. Oh, listen, that's fascinating. And for a week they would be doing this build up. It would be like a promotion for the march. And then they would be at the march. And then after the march they would be doing wall to wall everything. This march, this march was a surprise. Nobody, if you turn if you were watching network news, you didn't know that march was going to happen. And then when it did happen, it went by in the blink of an eye and then when it was over, nothing. It didn't happen.
GLENN: You know, Don we're talking to Don Wade from WLS in Chicago, probably the best radio station in the country. Seriously. I mean, you know, it just is. The I've been saying for a while that I think the paradigm is about to change in America. I haven't even known exactly what that meant. I just feel it in my gut that the paradigm is about to change. I'm beginning to feel that part of what that means is the mainstream media, the way we have always collected news, they don't even know it now. But when the mainstream media can completely ignore a march, when they can completely ignore ACORN, when they can completely ignore Van Jones and yet Van Jones is forced out in the middle of the night, ACORN loses its funding, and there are a million people on the mall, I mean, what relevance does the quote/unquote mainstream media have anymore?
WADE: Well, they are shooting themselves in the foot so to speak because your coverage on Van Jones, by the way, Glenn, was unbelievable. I was glued to my TV watching your Van Jones coverage. And then you switch to the evening news and there's nothing, nothing, until he actually left. And then they do the short little mention: Oh, by the way, Van Jones has resigned. And that was the end of that. But you are right. It is changing. People don't have to wait until 5:30, 6:30 at night, the evening news depending upon your time zone. They can't be bothered waiting because they know that they are not even going to get a straight story. They can go on the Internet, they can get it on a computer, they can get it on their Blackberry. They can get news when they want it. And they have a choice of 1,000 different sources. There's no monopoly left.
GLENN: So how does an administration I mean, you have Cass Sunstein who thinks the First Amendment is an overstatement, you think that you have Mark Lloyd who thinks that the revolution in Venezuela was Chavez was important.
GLENN: And he's glad that it happened, as soon as he understood how to control the press, he could then have that important revolution. You have people that are in this administration that want to shut down freedom of speech. How do what happens from here, Don? How do we, as broadcasters, as people, as just individuals on the Internet, how do we survive? Because nobody had to print how many people were down on the mall this weekend. Everybody in power knows. They know. You didn't have to have it in the paper. They know, believe me. How do they what happens next?
WADE: I don't know. You know, I think that the ratings for your show, and I don't your ratings for your radio show, I don't know, but I know I read in the paper about your TV show and I see how Fox is escalating in numbers, as the numbers for the mainstream networks are diminishing, and you can look at the graph and it's just steadily diminishing.
WADE: They are just going down, down, down, down. Fox is going up, up, up, up. There's a reason for that, that people are starved for the truth. Now, they can say that Fox is conservative or you're conservative or whatever. That doesn't, that doesn't ring true. Because what you, for instance, talk about with the ACORN problem, it's not a Republican or Democratic problem. It's just a human decency problem. How many people support 13 year old whores? I don't.
GLENN: I don't. I don't know anybody who does.
WADE: Both of our senators in Illinois, both of them, Durbin and what's his name, you know, the
GLENN: Yeah, the new guy.
WADE: That guy.
GLENN: What's his name? He was
GLENN: He was being chased by Fox yesterday. The guy was like 70 years old. He was like in a sprint.
WADE: Well, I pretend not to know his name because, you know, he is engraving his name on his monument. But both of our senators support giving money to an organization that apparently thinks it's okay for 12 to 15 year old little girls to be hooking. And I don't quite understand that and I think that people, they say that's a real story. I'm a Democrat, I'm an independent, I'm a Republican. It doesn't matter. I'm just a human, I'm a decent human being and that's not okay. And if Fox is the only station that's going to carry it, I'll watch them. To me people seek out what they think is the truth.
WADE: And whether they get it on the Internet or they get it on Glenn Beck or
GLENN: At least, you know, somebody asked me the other day what is the secret. In fact, it's an article written on me in Newsmax. And they came into the office and they said, what is the secret to your success? And, you know, is it this, is it that, are you going after this person or that person? I said, no, I think the secret of the success is in, Don, you just said it: People are starving for the truth. And you may not agree with my version of the truth, but at least most people in this audience, if they listen to me for any period of time, they know that I am genuine and it's what I believe is the truth. And I'm willing to say what I believe and let the chips fall where they may. That's all that's required. I can disagree with your version of the truth. If I believe you are an honest broker of information. You might come up with a different answer than I do, but are you an honest broker of information. Are you trying to get it right? I don't think a lot of people in the media are even trying to get it right anymore.
WADE: I like the way you put your arguments together and I think that you, in another life, could be a trial lawyer. I'm sorry, dirty word. You could be a trial lawyer because you do: A leads to B leads to C, therefore D. And then with a big piece of chalk underneath, D. And then the best part of you, Glenn, is that not only do you have the facts and do you lay them out in a really convincing manner but you've got a sense of humor, which is missing from the left. The left doesn't understand humor.
WADE: And that's
GLENN: Well, it is amazing to me. It is amazing to me that they are, that they are in the position that they are. Don, I've got to run.
GLENN: But I thank you so much. You are just, you are fantastic. I've been a big fan since long ago.
WADE: Well, maybe you can join me in the morning sometime.
GLENN: I'd love to.
WADE: And we'll giggle a little.
GLENN: I'd love it. Thanks very much. Appreciate it. Don Wade from WLS in Chicago.