GLENN: We have new indoctrination tape. Last week we had the indoctrination. Where was that indoctrination? New Jersey, right? This week we have a new tape of children being taught all about the wonders of hope and change and Barack Obama. Here is the latest indoctrination tape.

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GLENN: Okay, I'm comfortable. I'm totally comfortable.

PAT: Why wouldn't you be?

GLENN: I'm totally, totally comfortable.

PAT: Why wouldn't you be?

GLENN: Did you guys see my tweet yesterday on Twitter? I sent out this really, I think fascinating look at the imaging of Barack Obama. Did you see that, Pat?

PAT: No. I didn't see that. Sorry. I don't tweet.

STU: That video, is that legitimate? Have he we confirmed that, the one where they are showing a bunch of pictures in a row?

GLENN: What do you mean if that's legitimate?

STU: Well, some things on the Internet, Glenn, are actually not true.

GLENN: No, I don't know what you're talking about. No, it's a guy who said look at the O of Obama and the imaging. And he's like, look, it's very well reasoned. And he's saying the O of Obama, it was used during the campaign. Now it's replacing the presidential seal. And he showed the different posters that are coming out now and it is absolutely incredible the way this, the way it is explained and the imagery that is being used. He's saying that, for instance, the DNC is no longer using the donkey. You can't find the donkey right now on the DNC website. He said the main image is the Obama symbol. He said, and the Obama symbol for the very first time ‑‑ look, you use a symbol ‑‑ like W used ‑‑ George W. Bush used the W and he said that was the symbol that he used. Everybody has used a symbol. But once they get into the office, they use the presidential seal. He said this guy's not using the presidential seal.

STU: I have noticed that. I mean certainly there's nothing.

GLENN: Exactly right. You are not using the presidential seal. He's still in campaign mode. So the president has adopted something that we have never seen before. You have to watch it because it's fascinating. It shows the poster for healthcare that they've done and he explains the imagery in it. And he says, look, if you see the O, it's coming out and it is the main focus of this. He said behind is the eagle, but the eagle is not perched forward. The eagle is perched three quarters back and it looks like it's about to fly off into the sunset. And the stars and everything and the E Pluribus Unum is way in the background. With the Obama symbol coming at you. That's becoming more clear where all of the other traditional stuff is fading in the background. It's fascinating.

STU: The imagery of his campaign was that as well. It really was always putting him above ‑‑ remember the fake presidential seal at one point?

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: That's been his MO.

GLENN: Yep.

STU: And he has continued.

GLENN: Look what he did, though. When he was on the campaign trail, they tried to use the presidential seal. They tried to ‑‑ the imagery behind him was to use the White House as the backdrop, to use the Greek columns. They said it was a temple, but it wasn't a temple. It was trying to make him look presidential, make him look like the White House was behind him. So they used the president and the trappings to say look how presidential he is. But now that they have the trappings, this has always been the deal with ‑‑ in campaigns. How can you compete against somebody who can come in with all the presidential trappings? They just look presidential. He's gone the other way. Remember the bus that we use for our tour buses when we go out on book tour, the ones that we used last Christmas had just come off of the election and had been used for the entire election for Barack Obama, for the campaign. And the guy who runs the bus company said these guys are the shrewdest people he had ever seen. He said John McCain had the Straight Talk Express, it was all red, white and blue and everything else. Obama's bus was jet black. He said it looked like the presidential motor cade. He said he was using the trappings, he knew psychologically, somebody knew in his campaign, make him look like the president. He said it was amazing because they did the John McCain bus and Barack Obama's bus. Barack Obama's bus didn't have any markings on it. John McCain's did. They had the whole thing fully wrapped. He said when you saw the two buses pull in, one looked like the president had just arrived and one looked like a candidate. Now that he gets in, he images himself and everything as a candidate, not the president. I find that fascinating.

STU: What's the reason, though? Why would he want to be more candidate‑ish? We don't like candidates.

GLENN: Because we are in constant campaign mode now. It's no longer ‑‑ remember ‑‑

PAT: He is still selling all of his ‑‑

GLENN: Play the audio from Labor Day weekend where he was talking about healthcare and he was holding the big rally. And we just talked about it last week saying, I've never heard a president rile up the troops. "You know, are you ready? Let's go. Are you ready? Let's go." I've never heard this before. You hear it when you're on the campaign trail, but you don't hear it when the president ‑‑ the president comes out and he speaks to you. Do you know what I'm talking about, Pat?

PAT: I do.

GLENN: You can't find it?

STU: Fired up ready to go when there was cheering, fired up. I know which one you are talking about, yeah. I don't remember hearing that ‑‑

GLENN: I've never heard that from a president.

STU: It's possible but I don't remember.

GLENN: And so the ‑‑ look in the Twitter. You have to see this. It's like, I don't know, eight minutes long and it is fascinating, and the whole point is we've never seen this before. We're being ‑‑ we have a president who is imaging himself bigger than the country, bigger than the office of the president of the United States. That diminishes the office of the president of the United States.