Arguing with Idiots - Kevin in Columbus

Arguing with Idiots: How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government

by Glenn Beck

PAT: Kevin in Columbus, you are on the Glenn Beck program.

CALLER: Yeah, I am glad I came right behind this veteran. I'm a veteran myself and I don't feel like my face was slapped. And the thing is this man can, no matter what, he can do nothing right for you people that oppose him. Just like when he showed up at the ceremony.

PAT: Wait a minute.

CALLER: Somehow it's a photo op. So no matter what he does

PAT: Hang on, Kevin.

CALLER: You guys are going to have something to say, I don't care what it is.

PAT: Can we

CALLER: And also he got credit this morning I heard from Ms. Palin about removing "In God we trust" from the front of the coin. I guess it's on the edge of the coin. Actually that was brought up in 2005 approved by President Bush. But

PAT: Wait a minute. Slow down, Kevin. Kevin, can you hang on a second? Hang on. I can't speak for what Sarah Palin says. I haven't even seen the story yet.

CALLER: You speak for what she says any other time. Now why is that?

PAT: I do not speak for Sarah Palin. I can only answer for what we're doing.

CALLER: You uphold what she says. You agree with

PAT: As I told you, I haven't even seen the story yet. Obviously he's not responsible for that. That was done we were seeing stories about "In God we trust" on the side of the coin instead of the front or the back a year or two ago. And so that's been going on for a long time. Listen, Kevin, I'm leading to a point here, if you would hang on. Hang on. Kevin, Kevin, this is the Glenn Beck program, not the Kevin program, all right?

CALLER: Yeah, but I called this program a couple of times and you guys hang up.

PAT: Kevin, I'm trying desperately to work with you here, okay? Will you allow me to do that?

CALLER: As long as you don't hang up on me.

PAT: I'm not going to hang up on you.


PAT: As long as you're reasonable.

CALLER: I am. Okay, go right ahead.

PAT: Now, if I can get in, a word in.

CALLER: You can.

PAT: I would like to know now, you said we don't give him credit for anything. What do you give Barack Obama credit for so far?

CALLER: Okay, I give him credit for having the guts to try to change a healthcare system for one that for so many years is sucking us dry. I just had an incident a couple of months ago

PAT: Wait a minute. I don't no soliloquies here, okay? No monologue. You give him credit for hang on, Kevin

CALLER: You are not working with me like you said.

PAT: I'm trying to. I'm trying to desperately. God bless you. I let you you gave the example! Now I'm trying to respond to the example.

CALLER: If you will let me

PAT: Sarah, can you bring them down for a second? Okay. You gave the example. Now I'm going to address the example. How can I give him credit for something over which I feel is about to destroy the country? Kevin, when you're trying to fix a problem and the problem is let's say, let's say that a car has bad tires on it, okay? Are you with me so far? You've produced a car. It has bad tires. You don't throw the car out the window. You don't demolish the car. You change the tires, okay? The healthcare system we currently have does have flaws. Let's say it has a flat tire. Let's fix the tire. Let's not smash, demolish and throw into the scrap heap the car. We have the best healthcare system in the world, Kevin. Do you disagree with that?

CALLER: I disagree with that, yeah.

PAT: Who Kevin, who has a better healthcare system than the United States of America? Share it with me now. Who?

CALLER: I don't know because this is the one I'm in. I don't really know.

PAT: How can you not say please don't make ridiculous statements on the show then.

CALLER: That's what you are doing. You are talking about

PAT: If you can't think of a single other country turn him down again. If you can't think of another country that has a better system, how can you say we don't have the best? I mean, there's a lot of countries that come immediately to mind. Cuba has a system like we're talking about going to. Great Britain has a system. Many other countries. Canada has a healthcare system that is run by their government, okay? We have the those, the leaders of those countries all come here when they're sick. All come here, from Prince Charles to Fidel Castro. Well, he didn't come here, but he went to Spain, okay? So he went elsewhere for healthcare because their system sucks, Kevin. So other than healthcare, what else has Barack Obama done that we should give him a chance on?

CALLER: I mean, everything that he's tried to do, you are not giving him a chance to

PAT: Let's not speak in generalities. I've given him a chance on Afghanistan; he's made no decision. The day he came into office, he signed the abortion funding around the world. He raised he's raising taxes left and right. He lied about lobbyists. Are you okay with that? He said he wasn't going to have a single lobbyist. He lied about it! That's already completely out the window. You're okay with that? You're okay with communist Van Jones. You are okay with Marxist Mark Lloyd. You're okay with extremist John Holdren, Cass Sunstein, Anita Dunn, all of these Maoists, these don't mean a thing to you, Kevin, seriously? You don't have any problem with this?

CALLER: You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

PAT: Communists are making a mountain out of a hole hill? Kevin, please, please, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. Kevin! Hang on. I've been waiting for a caller like you for months now. Are you seriously going to tell me in the United States of America that communists and Marxists in the United States government, that's a molehill? Are you seriously going to get on this show and make that statement?

CALLER: That's right. Because I see it. I see it every day. I listen to you guys every day, and you are making the same accusations, getting everybody all worked up in a frenzy for nothing.

PAT: Are they false? Kevin, are they false?

CALLER: Most of them are, yeah.

CALLER: Are the accusations we've made false? Can you show gray) Okay, if there is any merit to any communists or Marxists in this government, if there's any merit to it, that's a molehill?

CALLER: You call them communists and Marxists. That's not what I call them.

PAT: No, no. No, no. Van Jones called himself a communist. Kevin, get off the phone. I'm done with you. You're pathetic. That is unbelievable to me. There is an example of an absolute blind follower of Barack Obama. No problem with his statement last Thursday, no problem with communists in the government. Self admitted communists like Van Jones. Haters of the free market system like Mark Lloyd, John Holdren, Cass Sunstein, manufacturing czar whose name escapes me right now. Are you kidding me? That's not a problem? Since when? 888 727 BECK. 888 727 BECK. Pat Gray on the Glenn Beck program.

If we learned nothing from the media over the past 4 years it's that colluding with a foreign entity to either win an election or for personal gain is absolutely grotesque. Well, that depends on whether you have a (D) or (R) before your name anyway. President Trump was impeached on rumor and innuendo yet Joe Biden has all but skated on his corruption up to this point.

Below is a timeline that shows the level of corruption and the lengths the Biden's went to in order to build that family's wealth and influence internationally.


In 2009, Joe Biden was the brand-new Vice President and John Kerry was a U.S. Senator. Just five months after Joe was sworn in, his son Hunter, and Kerry's stepson, Christopher Heinz, formed an international private equity firm called Rosemont Capital. It had several different branches, including one called Rosemont Seneca Partners.


Just nine months after Rosemont Seneca opened its doors, Hunter Biden went to China for meetings with executives from China's biggest banks, and its sovereign wealth and social security funds. That's unheard-of access for a brand-new firm. Was it just coincidence that at the same time Hunter was meeting these Chinese bigwigs, his dad was meeting with China's then-president Hu Jintao in Washington DC at a nuclear security summit?


In May 2011, Joe Biden met with Chinese officials for the U.S.-China Strategic & Economic Dialogue conference in Washington. Just two weeks later, Hunter Biden went to Taiwan for meetings with the same Chinese financial giants he'd met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.


By December 2013, Joe Biden was enjoying his second term as VP, and John Kerry was now Secretary of State. That's when Joe traveled to Beijing on an extended official trip and Hunter traveled with him on Air Force Two.

During their stay, Vice President Biden met with President Xi and Hunter was mostly out of sight. We don't know exactly what he was up to, but the deal finalized between Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China just ten days after the Bidens' trip pretty much gives it away. The most powerful financial institution in China formed a joint venture with tiny Rosemont Seneca to create a giant new investment firm called Bohai Harvest RST – the "RS" stands for Rosemont Seneca.

The firm is often called "BHR" for short.

Hunter Biden was a member of the Board. Remember, the Bank of China is government-owned, which means its business is completely intertwined with the goals of the Chinese Communist Party. BHR also got the freedom to operate in the newly created Shanghai Free-Trade Zone where, over the next six years, it would use $2.5 billion of Chinese government money to invest in China, as well as in other countries, including the U.S.

During their Beijing trip, Hunter also introduced Jonathan Li to his dad. Li is Hunter's business partner – he's CEO and Director of BHR.

Hunter arranged for Joe to meet Li in the lobby of the hotel where they stayed during their Beijing trip.


In 2014, one of BHR's first major investments was in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

CGN is a Chinese government-owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors. Problem is, CGN was under FBI investigation for paying informants in the U.S. to steal nuclear secrets.

In 2016, the FBI arrested the ringleader of this nuclear espionage, a man named Allen Ho.

When they arrested Ho, he was using a random code generator to access funds being provided to him from – where else? – the Bank of China.

Yet while this FBI probe was going on, the son of the Vice President owned a stake in the company being investigated. And even after arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR, nor did it divest from CGN, even though it was stealing U.S. nuclear secrets.


In 2015, BHR partnered with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to buy an American company called Henniges for $600 million.

AVIC is a gigantic military contractor in China – think Lockheed Martin – that makes fighter jets, bombers and drones. BHR bought 49% of Henniges and AVIC bought 51%.

Henniges is a precision parts manufacturer specializing in anti-vibration technology. The stuff they make is known as "dual use" by the U.S. State Department, which means the technology can also have a military application.

Because of that, the deal had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) since it could have national security implications. The thing is, the American side of BHR – meaning Hunter Biden and his pals – had to know there were serious national security implications with AVIC.

The year before they formed a partnership with AVIC, the Wall Street Journal reported how AVIC stole technology related to the U.S. Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter and used it in its own stealth fighter for the Chinese.

How the Committee on Foreign Investment approved that deal remains a mystery. CFIUS does not publicly disclose any information regarding its decisions. Their findings are not publicly announced.

Interesting that China accounted for the largest share – with 74 transactions – approved by CFIUS during Obama's second term (2013-2015).

Under the umbrella of Rosemont Capital was a real estate company called Rosemont Realty. In 2015, a Chinese company called Gemini Investments bought a 75% stake in Rosemont Realty. The company was renamed Gemini Rosemont

Gemini brought $3 billion to the partnership with Rosemont, with the aim of buying "Class A institutional-quality commercial office properties in U.S. markets."

Red flag (literally) – Gemini Investments is a subsidiary of the China Ocean Shipping Company, a.k.a., "COSCO."

COSCO is a Chinese government-owned company. Its headquarters in Beijing is actually next to the headquarters of the Bank of China. COSCO is well-known for its close military ties. It's essentially a branch of the Chinese Navy.


In 2017, BHR invested in Face++. That's the facial recognition phone app built by a Chinese company that is incorporated in a separate app built by the Chinese government. Police in the Xinjiang [Sin-jong] region of China use that app to keep tabs on citizens, and track and detain Uiguhr [Wee-ger] Muslims.

The app allows police easy access to data about Chinese Muslims including things like religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity they use.


In March 2018, a spokesman (Chris Bastardi) for Christopher Heinz (John Kerry's stepson) emailed The Hill to say that Heinz had "no operating role" in Rosemont Seneca, and that he was not involved in any of Rosemont's deals in China (which contradicts Schweizer's report in his book Secret Empires).

Chris Heinz was involved in Rosemont Capital. Rosemont Seneca was established under the same GP as Rosemont Capital, but Chris Heinz had no operating role in it. Chris and his family have no financial interest or investment in Bohai Harvest RST, he has never traveled to China, and he has never met with the firm's Chinese management team or investors.


In October 2019, Hunter Biden's lawyer, George Mesires, said Hunter did not conduct any business on that 2013 trip to Beijing with his Dad.

Mesires said the timing of BHR's business license getting approved was purely coincidental because the paperwork had been submitted months before the Bidens' China trip.

According to Hunter's lawyer, the approval " was not related in any way, shape or form to Hunter's visit."

Hunter Biden finally stepped down from the BHR board last October (2019), but he DID NOT give up his 10% stake in the company.

When Bevan Cooney — the former "junior" business partner to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer — went to jail in 2019, investigative reporter and New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer thought he'd never gain access to the damning emails Cooney had promised. That all changed three weeks ago when Schweizer was given complete access to Cooney's gmail account.

Schweizer joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to describe just some of the business deals revealed within these emails — like Hunter working with an alleged Russian criminal and with Chinese communists to secure their assets, or to secure one-on-one time with his dad, then-Vice President Joe Biden. And all of this new information is completely separate from the emails allegedly discovered on Hunter Biden's laptop recently reported by the New York Post.

"So, I want to make this clear. This [Cooney's emails] has nothing to do with what's on the laptop … It didn't come from [Rudy] Giuliani. It didn't come from anybody else, right?" Glenn asked Schweizer.

"That's absolutely correct," Schweizer confirmed.

He briefly explained how Cooney, a former Los Angeles nightclub owner, is currently serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a fraudulent business bond scheme with Biden and Archer. From prison, Cooney gave Schweizer written permission to access his Gmail account.

"This is really important," he noted. "We're not looking at printouts. Not looking at PDFs. We're actually in his Gmail accounts themselves, sifting through these emails. And there's a shocking amount of information about deals involving China, involving Russia, involving all sorts of things they were trying to pull off."

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The king of "No Spin" and bestselling author of "Killing Crazy Horse," Bill O'Reilly joined Glenn Beck on this week's podcast to talk about the latest developments in Joe Biden's Ukraine and China corruption scandal. Now that some of the details are finally coming out in the open, does the average Democrat care? Maybe, but the Left doesn't seem to.

O'Reilly argued there's more hatred for President Donald Trump now than in 2016, and that some people hate President Trump so much that they'd rather vote for the "senile, corrupt" Joe Biden.

"Hunter got tens of millions of dollars from Ukraine, from Russia, from China because his father was vice president. I have no doubt in my mind," O'Reilly said. "But the hatred for Donald Trump overrides that in the minds of millions of viewers. They're saying, 'You know, we'd rather have the senile corrupt guy than Trump.'"

Asked by Glenn if any other Republican running for president would be met with the same level of vitriol, O'Reilly answered, "The Left is the Left. They don't like America. The want to redo the Constitution. They want to take some of our freedoms, like the Second Amendment and the First Amendment, and change them. And they want to destroy capitalism and replace it with a big centralized government in Washington that controls the economy … but I'm talking about the folks. I have liberal friends and I say to them, 'Do you not understand that when you vote for Biden, you're voting against your own self interest?'"

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In a phone call with his constituents, Senator Ben Sasse (R-Neb) unleashed a torrent of criticisms about President Donald Trump, saying he "flirted with white supremacists," "kisses dictators' butts," and "spends like a drunken sailor."

On the radio program Friday, Glenn said he was disappointed in Sen. Sasse for apparently forgetting all of President Trump's accomplishments. Because, in reality, Trump has accomplished a lot more than many presidents before him.

Then, for anyone who may have forgotten President Trump's achievements — or who simply hate the man so much they've ignored them — Glenn listed just some of the many things this president has achieved during his three and a half years in the White House.

Watch the video below to hear Glenn's message for all the Trump-haters who have forgotten Trump's accomplishments, or you can read Glenn's list HERE:

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