Katie Couric healthcare rhyme
GLENN: The CBS Evening News.
PAT: CBS Evening News, here's how she wrapped up.
GLENN: Katie Couric healthcare poem.
COURIC: Just weeks before Christmas and what do you know, Senate Democrats are once again praying for snow. They want 60 votes to start the debate but they're back to square one and they just have to wait, wait for Blue Dogs like Nelson and Lincoln who say a public option would mean the economy sinking. Wait for Joe Lieberman who says it won't pass and hope Mary Landrieu can change her mind fast. The Republican votes right now total zero, but a trigger could make one woman a hero. The moderates from the land way up north could save Harry Reid's Christmas with a deal she brought forth, urging government plans for when private ones fail. To think, both sides happy? Can both sides prevail? At this point no compromise arrives within sight. That means after Thanksgiving, it's on with the fight. Enjoy your turkey and know we'll be here to help make this tough topic just a little more clear.
COURIC: And that's a page from my notebook. I'm Katie Couric, CBS news.
GLENN: Views, CBS views?
STU: Yeah, I thought that was coming next.
PAT: Just like Red Rover, Red Rover, Katie Couric's career is over.
GLENN: What, how is that journalism? How is that journalism?
STU: I mean, she's just trying to be cutesy there.
GLENN: Stop with the cutesy. I'm going to vomit all over my shoes.
STU: That's not a good decision.
PAT: That's decision.
STU: There are many decisions to make with a newscast. That's one of the horrible ones.
GLENN: They have to wait, oh, yeah, they have to wait. Even though the Republicans have zero votes, they have to wait
PAT: For somebody to be a hero.
GLENN: For somebody to be a hero.
PAT: Now, that was on the same day, I believe, that the Rasmussen poll showed 38% support for this disaster.
GLENN: It's down farther he than that. And you know what? I just where do I have this?
PAT: Fox News has it 56 35. Rasmussen has it 56 38, against. So
STU: Yeah, that's especially when you start talking about specifics.
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
STU: I mean, you start talking about any cost increase, that number goes even more in the tank.
GLENN: Try this on for size. Look who supports and does not oppose the plan. Over 65, 32% support. 50 to 64, 41% support. 30 to 49, 28% support. Under 30, 25% support.
GLENN: That's Gallup.
PAT: That's why they are trying to jam this thing through right now.
GLENN: It is falling.
PAT: They know there's no support for it.
GLENN: The highest number of supporters is 50 64. Everyone else is over 65 is 32%. Under 49, 28%. And under 30, 25%. That is the core of the Obama supporters. Under 30.
PAT: They don't want to pay for other people's healthcare their whole lives.
GLENN: They know.
PAT: They don't want to.
STU: They are the ones making the choice not to get it in general because they don't want to.
PAT: It's not important to them.
GLENN: This is going to, this is going to be this is an albatross. This you know, I was going to do a monologue tonight on television but we decided to change at the last minute because there's something else that's unbelievable that has just happened, but we'll get to it. It is the exit strategy. This guy's these numbers, Hillary Clinton, Clinton Care or Hillary Care was at 36% approval. This is Gallup. They don't have one, what, 50 64 is 41% approval rating. Everybody else, 32%, 28%, and 25%.
GLENN: So this is how badly this is doing. Compare that to Hillary Care. Hillary Care was a joke. She couldn't even they didn't want you to call it Obama care because they didn't want it to appear like Hillary Care. Obama care is more toxic. How do you pass this? Then start collecting the money and then not give any of the benefits until 2014?
PAT: For four years.
STU: Because you are trying to hide obviously this
GLENN: But how do you my question is your poll numbers are this low.
PAT: People are going to be so angry.
GLENN: You are going to be taking the money from them, not giving them any benefits. You are spending another stimulus package without creating any more jobs. This lie cannot continue this long. You gave the you gave rebates, tax refunds. Come April everybody is going to understand that millions of people, that we're giving those low income tax refunds where they sent you a check, they're going to demand tax dollars back. They told you to go out and spend it. Well, many people did. Now you have to pay taxes on that refund.
STU: Just a matter, I mean, if we had a competent media that covered this and was critical, and occasionally we see scattered showers of it. But if that happened all the time, there would be no way he would have a 40 he would be celebrating a 45% approval rating.
PAT: He has the cover of the press and yet he's still down to 48% approval rating.
PAT: If the press was against him the way it was against Bush, it would be in the 30s.
GLENN: Anybody that understands politics knows when you get down to, what is it, 44 or 42% approval rating, you don't go back up without a major event. You don't recover from that. You don't get your healthcare stuff, you don't get anything passed. You are a lame duck under 42%. And you don't go back generally speaking, you don't go back up. So when you approach 42%, that's then the advisors say triangulate. And you know the reality that we tried to preach every day. If you're a strategist and you say, Mr. President, do you want to have any kind of power twelve months from now. You've got to triangulate a little bit. You've got to be able to retain some of your power. Your political people are saying that right now, but apparently that's not a message that he's either hearing or he cares. So he's either, he's either just going to flame out here or he's got a different strategy. He doesn't have to worry about the politics because there's he's going to play the emergency in a different way. What is the end game? Because I'm trying to understand it in the traditional sense. It doesn't work. You triangulate at this point. You cut. You stop doing the same thing you're doing. They're not. So what is the end game scenario? Are you so arrogant which is a possibility so arrogant and so blind to the American people that you just think you can get away with this forever; or, do you not care because you are fundamentally transforming the power structure of America. You're going to have to decide, but it's not your typical, "Oh, we're going down in the polls; we'll triangulate to win."