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GLENN: Tonight I'm doing a piece on the anatomy of a conspiracy theory. Because here's what happened. We have a couple breaking into the White House, getting past security, and they are being questioned by secret service, but how long does this take? How long, how did they get in? Who let them in? So last night on the program one of the guests he's from biggovernment.com and he said, you know, I have nothing other than, you know, this is an interesting theory. He said, you know, these guys are really TV show and they are on the bravo network, which is owned by NBC, which is owned by GE, which is in bed with the Obama administration. These guys, this administration has made deals with networks from the beginning. They are good partners with networks that will play ball. And, you know, I don't believe this even though today there was an exclusive. The couple is on The Today Show giving their exclusive package, on NBC, which carries the show, their show, on Bravo. Now, I don't think this is what's happened. I really don't. But I can see how people might jump to this, and this is the point of this current break that will be on tonight, the anatomy of a conspiracy theory, because absent facts that make sense, you breed this kind of stuff. People look for an answer that makes sense. And right now it doesn't make sense well, here. Let me give you my conspiracy theory. Here's what I think happened. I think our last caller was exactly right. There is contempt on the part of some in this administration and some in congress for anyone really in a uniform or that does work for instance, we have seen the contempt the president has for police officers. Quote: I have no information, but the police officers acted stupidly. Well, wow, that sounds like you have contempt for the police officers. If you are making a judgment based on no information, that means you have something else you are basing that conclusion on. So there's a problem with the police officers, right? Then we have the military, Fort Hood. He comes out and he does two minutes before he talks about he gives shout outs before he talks about the military. And then when he does, his point is, let's not jump to conclusions here. Excuse me? Then, of course, we have the Navy SEALs situation. We have Guantanamo. We have the lack of compassion for this people of New York, the police officers, the fire department. You want to bring this killer to New York? This man, somehow or another somebody in this man's administration has allowed a guy who is a self avowed communist, a 9/11 Truther. Think of that one. A 9/11 Truther. To counsel the president. Now, is that the FBI? Because they do the vetting. Did the FBI not know about Van Jones? I find that extraordinarily hard to believe. Because we found it all out. It wasn't that difficult. So is someone going around the FBI? Are they selling the FBI down the river? The actual agents? How about the CIA? We know how they are dealing with the CIA. The CIA doing the things that the president has asked them to do, the things that everybody in congress demanded that they do. And what do they do? They cut these people off at the knees. He delays in Afghanistan. I mean, how many more things do we need to show? There's not a real love from somebody with the armed forces and the military and our intelligence agencies, the people who are actually out doing the work. Now, let me give you the conspiracy theory. It's not a conspiracy. I don't think the man or somebody in the administration has real respect for these people. I don't think he wants to, you know, hurt them or anything else. He just knows better. Or the people in the administration just know better. And so when you have a secret serviceman sitting there and he's there checking the invitations, checking all the information, I could see somebody like Valerie Jarrett or somebody like that don't know who it is coming up and seeing the line and they are like, hey, Valerie, I'm getting some trouble here getting in; he doesn't have me on a list. And Valerie Jarrett saying, don't worry, they are with me. Breaking protocol. And Ms. Jarrett: I'm sorry, but they are not on the list; they have to be on the list. Don't, don't. Don't even start with me. They're with me; I'll take responsibility. That puts the secret service in a bad situation. What are they going to do? They can complain to the president, but if the president doesn't say this is the conversation that I hope happened and should have happened. But if it happened, we would have known all of the details by now. If I'm the president of the United States and somebody goes in because remember, this isn't just about the president of the United States being secure. This is also about another foreign head of state being protected and out of danger. We're responsible for the foreign head of state. So the next morning when I found out that these two couples, these two people, this couple broke in and they were there? Here's what the president should have done, whoever the chief of staff is. Who is his chief of staff? Rahm Emanuel? "Rahm, find out who let these people in. How did that happen? I don't care if it's the secret service. I don't care if it was you. I want a name on my desk. How did these people get in." And then when I find out, if it was the secret service, I fire that guy. If it was Rahm Emanuel, I fire him. And I send a message. We're not playing games here. First of all, my safety. Did anybody think maybe I mean, I keep hearing on MSNBC how violent everybody is against me. Maybe we should go through the right steps and honor the secret service so they can do their job? And beyond that, I don't really care about what happens to me; fine. I'm an asset. The world is damn near on fire. I'm the $1 billion man. They spent a billion dollars to put me into office, a billion dollars on this campaign. What do you think happens to the rest of the world if the president of the United States is killed? What do you think happens? You think that's a good thing? You think there's not riots in the street? Do you not think that there's massive civil unrest? What do you think happens to the economy and thus what happens to the world economy? Get out of my office; you're fired. And then I hold a press conference, this person is excused: "We take security here seriously." I am not emasculating the secret service. That's what happened, that's what should have happened. Even if he didn't do the last step on going in for the press, the president should have issued a statement saying, this is how it happened; steps having taken to correct this problem. And bolster the secret service.
PAT: That's a what a leader does.
GLENN: That's what a leader does.
PAT: A community organizer doesn't do it that way.
GLENN: Anybody who is anybody who has I think a less than favorable understanding on the police and the secret service and the agents of the FBI and the CIA and the military, I mean, that is the pattern that is developing here. They are not his first concern. I have news for you, Mr. President. I have news for you. Everybody in the White House. If what I know is coming and what you know is coming financially, you must have the support of the military, of the police, of the fire, of the secret service, of CIA, of everyone. Because you must, you must have the sheriffs. You must have the Boy Scouts. You must have the hearts and minds of the American people! Because trouble is coming. And these are the people that are going to be standing in the community saying, relax, people, relax, relax, relax, everything's going to be okay. I don't understand it. Pat and I have been talking for the last couple of weeks. I've never seen such short term thinking in my life. There's
PAT: Doesn't make any sense.
GLENN: It doesn't make sense.
PAT: Unless you've got a short term plan that fixes everything. Because they lie so much. Just like this situation. They are going to if these two show up on an NBC reality series, does that not I mean, because it gives
GLENN: It does if it does if there's no other answer. But I don't think even then I still think that's a ridiculous theory.
PAT: I guess, I guess it is. But we're seeing the ridiculous every day which is why you really can't discount anything. And with Robert Gibbs still I mean, his statement today was that, you know, they weren't invited.
GIBBS: I think if you ask the Salahis directly, they were not on a list at the White House. Their name was not at a security tower in order to get into this secure complex.
GLENN: Well, it was not on a
PAT: Not on a list.
GLENN: So wait a minute. I don't care about this couple. Does anybody care about this couple? I don't care. But they were asked about
PAT: They do say they were invited.
GLENN: I care about the security of the president of the United States.
PAT: Absolutely. Yeah.
GLENN: What are we why are we having this conversation with these two clowns? We're talking about the security of the president of the United States. How did you enter a secure building?
STU: Yeah, it goes back to what you're talking about. The questions have been answered. So we're kind of stuck sitting here asking questions of them and trying to reconcile them.
GLENN: They never answer the questions.
STU: That's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we haven't had enough information on this. So we have nothing else to do but to speculate and try to pick apart their words.
PAT: And Matt Lauer asked them point blank tonight this morning, were you invited? Yes.
GLENN: Do you have it?
GLENN: Here it is.
VOICE: I can tell you we did not party crash the White House.
PAT: Okay. So that was the first part of it. And then they were asked more indepth.
VOICE: Our lives have been destroyed.
VOICE: Our lives have really been destroyed.
VOICE: Everything we worked for, Matt, to me, 44 years.
GLENN: Of what?
VOICE: Just destroyed.
STU: Not destroyed.
LAUER: There are some hurdles you have to clear, and you were clear with me on the phone about that. There are some meetings you have to have before you can talk in explicit detail about every aspect of this story. But at the center of this is a simple question and the question is, were you or were you not invited to attend that state dinner? How do you answer that?
VOICE: Well, we were invited. Not crashers. And there isn't anyone that would have the audacity or the poor behavior to do that. The White House is the most it is the house, and no one would do that.
LAUER: Who invited you?
VOICE: And certainly not us.
PAT: His followup.
VOICE: Well, you know, Matt, one of the things that we're doing is we're working closely with the secret service
GLENN: Something's wrong.
PAT: Yeah, something's really wrong.
VOICE: and their internal investigation
STU: Well, they don't want to say it.
VOICE: Respect everything they do.
PAT: And then they keep babbling about, we were we can't say anything right now, we can't tell you who.
GLENN: They can't, they can't. At this point if you are
PAT: I suppose not.
GLENN: Listen to me. Is there, is there anybody you would mess with less than the secret service? I would if I have, "Glenn, you have to mess with one of these two groups: The mob or the secret service," I think I'm going for the mob.
PAT: I would mess less with the Navy SEALs because I could get a fat lip. I don't want that to happen.
GLENN: I mean, you've got there's no, there is no agency, no police agency in this government that is more
PAT: No nonsense.
GLENN: Absolutely. More no nonsense than the secret service. You say something I can guarantee you, I say something on the radio? Secret service would be at my studios within the hour. And they are not going to say, "Oh, that was funny." They're not going to do that.
STU: There's middle ground there somewhere. Do you have Gibbs' statement handy again, Pat? Because if you listen to what they both said, they are answering different questions.
GLENN: They are. Yes, they are.
STU: They are being specific with their language and they are answering different questions.
GLENN: Yes, they are.
GIBBS: I think if you ask the Salahis directly, their name was not on a list at the White House. Their name was not at a security tower in order to get into this secure complex and they had been told on a number of occasions that they did not have tickets for that dinner. The president
PAT: Not on a list; don't have tickets.
GLENN: But that is different.
PAT: Than being invited.
STU: They say they were invited and they weren't crashing. And then Gibbs is saying they weren't on a list, they weren't on a security tower and didn't have tickets.
STU: But those are two different things. If someone buzzes them in essentially at the door, they are both right.
GLENN: If somebody says if somebody is called down, because I used it earlier, Valerie Jarrett, and I'm not accusing. That's just the example I'm using. But let's say somebody is there at the security tower with the secret service: They are not on a list, you don't have tickets, you are not coming in. And one of them picks up their cellphone and calls Valerie Jarrett and Valerie Jarrett comes down and says, officer, they are my guests; let them in.
STU: They are invited by her.
GLENN: Right. The secret service is not going to violate. They are not going to come out and say.
GLENN: They can't.
GLENN: "Secret" is in their name. Something's wrong. Something's wrong. And I'm and America, we must demand answers. Not because there's something wrong like, "Hey, nefarious communist." The security of the president of the United States is at stake, nothing less.