GLENN: Let's go right to David Obey
PAT: Let's do.
GLENN: in the war on Afghanistan:
PAT: He is a genius.
VOICE: If you make $150,000 or more, you would pay 1% and then you would escalate up. If you make $250,000, you would pay more and so on up the scale, correct?
OBEY: Yes, and our point is simply that in this war we have not had any sense of shared sacrifice.
OBEY: The only people being asked to sacrifice are military families.
GLENN: Like my family.
OBEY: They have had to go to the line again and again and again. And like everybody else in society, they are essentially told to go shopping by the previous president.
PAT: Does this guy know what shared sacrifice means? Okay, so now it will be military families and those who make over $150,000.
PAT: That's still not shared, David!
GLENN: I know. No, what? What are you talking about? Yes, it is. It's shared with everybody. There's no one else but military families and those who make over $150,000. That's it.
STU: They are sharing it together.
GLENN: They are sharing it together. They are sharing that sacrifice.
PAT: Okay, so everybody who makes over $150,000.
STU: Or a military family. Either one of those.
GLENN: We've learned before from other congressmen that the only people that serve in the military are the poor.
STU: The poor. Poor people that are making $148,000 a year.
STU: Poor people like that.
GLENN: Yes. That make $149,999.
STU: Those poor people.
GLENN: Those poor people.
STU: Are forced into the military.
PAT: At least we don't ask them to sacrifice anymore.
GLENN: Now, let me ask you something. See that I'm in a military family, do I get an exemption from the tax?
STU: Are you currently in Afghanistan?
GLENN: No, I'm not.
PAT: Or Iraq?
GLENN: No. If I wait a minute. So that's what it is?
PAT: There is an exemption. If your immediate family members are in Iraq or Afghanistan, you are exempt.
PAT: Yeah, yeah.
GLENN: I'm sending my kids.
PAT: Just to save a few bucks?
GLENN: Don't even care what the cause is.
STU: That's what evil conservatives do.
PAT: We're invading Grenada again.
GLENN: That's exactly what they would think, too. That's exactly what they would think. Look, I am willing to pay, if you are going to fight a war to win a war. I'm not willing to pay for this now, I'm not. I'm just not. I want it to stop.
STU: Well, you are going to do it. You don't have a choice.
GLENN: I know. I want it to stop.
STU: If they are not going to fight it to win.
GLENN: Yes. And they are not. So I want it to stop.
PAT: The other thing is, this is just a punishment again. It's a redistribution of wealth and a punishment for the rich because
STU: Well, they tie it to war to make it seem like again a patriotic sacrifice. It's the Joe Biden argument.
PAT: How can you not ask somebody who's making $80,000 a year to make the same sacrifice as somebody who's making $2 million.
GLENN: How do you not ask everyone?
GLENN: Look, here's the thing. If you want to fund the war, if you have to fund the war in a different way, then you issue war bonds. It's what the government has always done. You issue war bonds. But they don't want to do that.
GLENN: They don't want to do that. They need this tax like and let me ask you this: If the government gets a tax of 5% on the rich, do you think it makes it more likely or less likely that a war goes on forever?
GLENN: Of course it does.