Glenn Beck: Convicted Felon calls in...


Arguing with Idiots: How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government


by Glenn Beck

GLENN: Joe in Ohio, you are on the Glenn Beck program.

CALLER: Hello, how are you doing?

GLENN: Good, how are you?

CALLER: I'm pretty good except I'm a little ticked at you.

GLENN: Oh, boy. Stand in line. Now serving number 483.

PAT: Thousand.

CALLER: And the reason I'm ticked is I'm tired of you talking about the convicted felons the way you do. I know you are talking about the one individual gentleman who's in the White House and you say was a convicted felon there and every you know, my wife and I watch your show every day.

GLENN: Oh, boy.

CALLER: You are always like a convicted felon and you point out

GLENN: You are a convicted felon, aren't you?

CALLER: Yes, I am.

PAT: Joe, we just don't want you writing policy for the country. That's all. Is that too much to ask?

CALLER: Yes, that is too much to ask.

PAT: Is it really?

GLENN: Really?

PAT: What were you convicted of? Let's find out what he was convicted of.

GLENN: All right. What were you convicted of?

CALLER: Well, this is what I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you that

PAT: Well, come on, full disclosure. You are calling us on the carpet. Tell us what you were convicted of.

CALLER: Well, if you'll let me finish talking first.

PAT: Well, I'm asking you the question first. Just answer the question and then you can finish talking.

GLENN: Why are you so why are you so upset?

PAT: Well, I want to find out. Just hold on.

GLENN: He is very angry. He's got an issue with something. Go ahead, Joe.

CALLER: Okay. What I'm saying is it's irrelevant to the issue because I represent every

PAT: No, it's not.

GLENN: Could you please let let him finish.

STU: Let him finish, Pat.

CALLER: I represent, I represent every convicted felon out there. So you can think of any crime you want and you can put that on me because I believe this. I believe there's absolute truth. And I believe that the mistakes that a person made doesn't affect the truth that they speak.

GLENN: Okay. May I Joe, Joe.

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Let's just say you are a convicted felon. Let's just say that you were embezzling from banks, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: That's what Robert Creamer had done.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: There is no one that understands or appreciates forgiveness more than me. I needed the atonement, and I'm not a convicted felon but, you know, give me more time. I could have been. May I? Joe, may I? May I? May I have the floor now?

CALLER: I'm sorry.

GLENN: Thank you. So there's nobody that understands redemption more than me. But what is the key to redemption, Joe?

CALLER: The key to redemption is change.

GLENN: Okay. Well, that's part of it. What comes before change?

CALLER: Brokenness.

GLENN: Good. Good. You've got to be a broken, contrite person that says, I've made a mistake, right?

CALLER: I agree, 100%.

GLENN: Good. Robert Creamer never has. He wrote the book, he calls his prison time a sabbatical. He wrote his plan, his manifesto in the prison. He still to this day doesn't think that there was a problem with him embezzling from the banks. Now, when you are a convicted felon, I am not I mean, I'm a huge fan of have you ever read Les Miserables?

CALLER: No, I have not.

GLENN: You are a very smart man because it's about 14,000 pages and you want to hang yourself because it has a very sad ending. But the whole point of it is this guy went to prison for stealing a loaf of bread. He gets into prison, he was guilty for it, he was starving, nobody would listen to him. He goes to prison. He serves. It's awful. He tries to escape. Now he gets 19 years. Now he's in prison again. It's awful. He gets out after serving his time. After he serves his time, he has to carry around what's called a yellow ticket of leave, which means every place he goes, every employer he has to go, every place he wants to go and live, he must show them by law, I'm a felon; I was convicted; I was in prison.

CALLER: So he's the sex offender of our day?

GLENN: Yes. And he was never able to get forgiveness, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: That's the basic that's the opening part of Les Miserables.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: It shows how unjust that system is because you must be able to forgive people. That doesn't mean that you necessarily forget. If I'm a bank, I'm not going to hire Robert Creamer even if he says, "Wow, did I make a mistake! I'm not stupid!" Forgiveness is forgiveness but not in my bank. This man never asked for forgiveness.

CALLER: Now, may I say something?

GLENN: Yes.

CALLER: I understand that completely. And the issue that I have is, okay, I read some good books. I read Pilgrim's progress which was written by a gentleman who was in prison at the time. And I look at my prison experience as one of the best things that ever happened to me because God crushed me while I was in there and gave me time to think about what I've done and changed my life and has given me great opportunity since then. So I agree with you 100% that it takes brokenness and contriteness. And if the guy has not shown that, then

GLENN: He has not.

CALLER: If you'll let

PAT: But it's also something Joe, you also can't serve as president of the United States now. I mean, there are consequences to your actions. Yes, you've been forgiven; yes, you've been obviously given great blessings since. And you can go on and enjoy the fruits of those blessings. But there are certain things because of your actions that you can't now do.

CALLER: Right.

PAT: One of them is to come up with policy for the United States.

GLENN: Here's the thing.

CALLER: Right, right.

GLENN: Hang on just a second, Joe. Let's just take this out of the president of the United States and out of it being hang on.

CALLER: ... it doesn't need to go.

GLENN: I beg your pardon?

CALLER: You are taking it somewhere it doesn't need to go. I know I can't be president of the United States. And you know what? You don't have to tell me about consequences. I live every single day with what I did. I can't change that.

GLENN: I understand.

PAT: Well, we're trying to explain to you why we have a problem with a convicted felon writing policy for the United States.

GLENN: Right, but let's not hang on. Let's not even take it to the convicted felon. Joe, you are married.

CALLER: Okay.

GLENN: Joe, you are married.

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Okay. If Tiger Woods comes to you and says, whoa, I made a lot of mistakes and, man, boy, I mean, 13 mistakes that you know of, and I made a lot of mistakes and I'm a changed man, hey, by the way, your wife is really hot; I bet she's very good at golf; could I give her lessons?

CALLER: I guess she's very hot but I would say no, that

PAT: Why?

GLENN: Why would you do that?

PAT: We're a little hacked off at you, Joe.

GLENN: Would you have done that, Joe, two weeks ago?

CALLER: I'm just trying to I can't think your guy's chain. That's all. What I'm saying

GLENN: No, you're not. You are just losing the argument and so... (laughing).

CALLER: Tiger Woods, if Tiger Woods came to me that way, what I would say to him is, you know what, you can go ahead and do that but I'm going to go along because and I agree with you, Glenn. I agree with you 100% that a person when they do wrong that they need to prove to others that they are trying to change their life. All right? Now, my issue is here's my main issue. I think we're getting way off track. Is I don't mind you pointing out that this gentleman has done you know, he wrote the book, that he stands on these principles that are totally against the United States of America and what I believe this country stands on. But to stand up and keep pointing out convicted felon, convicted felon, convicted felon, it really rubs me the wrong way because there are

GLENN: Because you're a convicted felon!

PAT: (Laughing).

GLENN: I mean, I get it! I get it! If the guy's name was Beck and somebody was like, "And Joe Beck, Joe Beck," I would be like, can you stop saying the Beck thing? It's giving all this guy's giving automatic Becks a bad name. I understand Robert Creamer, if I understand your point, Robert Creamer is giving all convicted felons a bad name. I understand that!

CALLER: No, no. What I'm saying is this: You get on there and you say how much you are so you believe so strongly in forgiveness and second chances and you believe everybody has a second chance and, oh, my goodness, look at me, I was a drug addict and an alcoholic and I'll tell you what by the grace of god

GLENN: Stop saying that!

CALLER: I guarantee you if you I know if you were truly drug addict that you said you were and alcoholic that you said you were, that there were times that you performed illegal acts that you never got busted for. So it's just by the grace of God that you are not a convicted felon. So for you to

GLENN: Excuse me. Joe.

PAT: He is still not writing policy for the United States of America.

GLENN: Right. Wait a minute. Hang on. No, no, no, I've read in the New York Times I am. Joe, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I understand forgiveness, I understand that. This man has never asked for it.

CALLER: I understand that.

GLENN: This man has been, they have been making excuses for him, and he's been making excuses, and his attorneys have made excuses. His excuse is, it's only it was for a good cause.

STU: I paid it back.

GLENN: I paid it back. Who paid it back?

STU: Right. He's justifying it.

GLENN: Who paid it back?

STU: That's not an apology. He's been justifying his actions as not too, too bad.

GLENN: There is believe me, there were people that bought alcohol for me. There were people that enabled me every step of the way, in my drug and alcohol I don't ever need to point them out. I don't have anything against them. I don't nothing! I did it. I asked them; I drank it. Nobody poured it down me. It is no one's fault but mine. Now, if you think that I should be a bartender, well, you're dumb as a box of rocks. And you'd be if you were sitting there and you were running the bar and I had the cash register and the bar, you'd have every right to go, "But he's an alcoholic! But he's an alcoholic!" If I was standing behind the bar going, "No, I just drank a little too much!" You would be justified in saying, "But he's an alcoholic! Don't put him in charge of the booze or the money!" That's all I'm saying. He's a convicted felon. He is a convicted felon that hasn't had a moment of being contrite, at least that I can find. He should not be anywhere near the president of the United States and he shouldn't be writing manifestos in prison that David Axelrod says is a blueprint for our success.

Glenn Beck can't help but wonder, "What is wrong with us?" in light of the Left's latest move — canceling six Dr. Seuss books due to "hurtful and wrong" illustrations — that takes America one step closer to complete insanity. And now, school districts are jumping on board after President Joe Biden seems to have dropped Dr. Seuss from the White House's annual "Read Across America Day" proclamation.

On the radio program Tuesday, Glenn argued that deleting books is the perfect example of fascism, and asked when we as a country will finally realize it.

"They are banning Dr. Seuss books. How much more do you need to see before all of America wakes up? ... This is fascism!" Glenn said. "We don't destroy books. What is wrong with us, America?"

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Former Democratic presidential candidate and Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard and Glenn Beck don't agree much on policy, but they're in lockstep on principles.

On "The Glenn Beck Podcast" this week, Tulsi spoke with Glenn about one of her last acts in Congress, introducing the "Protect Women's Sports Act," which she says would "strengthen, clarify, and uphold the intent of Title IX to provide a level playing field for girls and women in sports." But since then, the Biden administration has gone in the opposite direction, and has supported allowing biological men to compete in women's sports.

Watch the video clip below to hear why Tulsi took a stand for female athletes:


Watch the full interview with Tulsi Gabbard here.

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Later this week, former President Trump will attend CPAC and give his first major policy appearance since leaving office. Sources close to the President reveal he will focus on "the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement."

The future of the GOP is a question that demands real discussion before elections in 2022 and 2024. Right now, I can see three possible answers for how you act:

  1. Those in power and senior positions will ignore the reasons behind Donald Trump winning in 2016. They will be vindicated in their minds because they outlasted him, as they view DC as a job for life. These leaders will go back to business as usual and seek forgiveness from the left, hoping for unity and acceptance in the future.
  2. The second outcome is another section of the party that is understandably very angry over the left's Presidents treatment. They still support and believe in Trump. They think it's time to take off the gloves and treat Biden/the left exactly how they treated Trump.
  3. The few policy positions offered in public will be centered solely around opposing the left. They will also make the case how the left suck, are dangerous, and how you need them in power. The next four years are merely a countdown for Trump to run again and right the wrong of 2020.
  4. The third outcome is very similar to the second, but with one key difference. While they appreciate everything Trump accomplished while in office, they feel it's time to unite behind another candidate.
Question

Which of these three positions will work best for the American people? Which helps built a political base for elections in both 2022 and 2024?

If you seek to help save America, it is critical to do some soul searching. Whether you love or hate him, Donald Trump got 75 million votes and made advancements in key demographics. What did he do well that you can develop further? In what areas was he poor, and how can you improve?

I want to raise six principled points everyone on the right should be forced to consider in the run-up to 2024.

1 - Understanding American Exceptionalism

FACT: America is an exceptional nation. If you read enough of world history, you will find ample evidence that America acted in ways that made it unique and significantly different from other countries in the past and modern times. These reasons must be understood and promoted through the culture and body politic.

One of those reasons is the layout of your Declaration of Independence. If you look around politics today, you will see people on all political sides telling you what they hate, why the other side is the enemy, and how they must be defeated.

In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson also made that case against the English when he listed 27 grievances against the King. So how is the layout key? It took Jefferson 357 words to get to those grievances. Your Declaration is your mission statement: it tells everyone in the world what America aspires to be. It states the belief that all were created equal, all had certain rights that come directly from God, and that it is the government's job to protect rights -- not give people rights.

The left is successfully painting everyone on the right to be a terrorist who enjoyed the Capitol Hill riots. If you ever want to win another election, it will be critical to explain what you stand for to the American people.

After all, ask yourself which makes you the most passionate to vote - removing someone from office or voting for a vision and change you believe in?

2 - The Constitution

Is there a better place to start this vision than the Constitution? Yes, it is mostly ignored today by those in power and is only referenced by politicians and media when it fits a narrative.

The Constitution is a beautiful and complex document but is primarily based on a straightforward principle. The government should be extremely limited in its power, but it should be as close to the people as possible where there is a clear need for government. Who can argue with this principle?

Who wants someone they have never met, dictating how they live their life?

This is why the Constitution grants the President no real power, and gives Congress 18 clauses of power, listed under Article 1, Section 8. Any and every power not mentioned there belongs at the state level.

3 - Finances

The power structure in DC has changed many times over the last twenty years, with both parties having the opportunity to rule the different federal branches. There have been two periods where one party controlled all the power in DC:

  • 2008-2010: Obama / Dem
  • 2016-2018: Trump / GOP

Despite these changes, your government continually grows, you continue to spend money you don't have, and in ten out of the last thirteen years, you have added over $1,000,000,000,000 to your national debt, which now sits just under $28 trillion. Does this seem sustainable to you? Of course not, but sadly your finances only get worse.

America has revenue of over $3.2 trillion every year, yet DC has not passed a budget since 2008. Can you imagine any business running that way? Do you think Apple, Amazon, or Disney have a budget? It is time to get America on a path to financial sustainability, work towards a balanced budget, and explain to the American people how you will achieve it.

4 - Taxes

Do you remember discussing taxes during the Tea Party?

We used to make the simple moral case to the American people: any money you earn is yours, you should use it to plan your life, and the government has no right to take it from you. This was so successful around 2012 that Herman Cain ran for President with one primary policy: the 9-9-9 plan.

If America is to return to prosperity after Covid, lower taxes and a simpler tax code must be a central theme.

5 - Cutting Government

Look at the size of the US government in 2021. Are you happy? Can you name the numerous departments? Is it now the freedom-loving Americans' position that agencies like Education, Energy, EPA, and Commerce are constitutional bodies of government and are well-run?

How about the IRS, which targeted Tea-Party groups under President Obama? Do they deserve support, or is it time to start sharing a vision of the departments that should be abolished?

This principle used to be a big part of the Conservative platform. It played a massive role in 2012 when Rick Perry ran for President. His campaign was destroyed in 45 short seconds when he could not remember the three agencies he would abolish.

Maybe it's time to refresh this debate but change the parameters. How about we discuss the agencies that should be kept?

6 - Bill of Rights

Today, the Bill of Rights is under constant attack. The far-left/woke mob hates free speech, and they seek to cancel anyone with an opposing view. However, the attacks on the Bill of Rights don't always come from the left.

America has a second amendment that guarantees you the right to bear arms. The last time the GOP held both houses of Congress and the Presidency, they banned bump stocks - but who really NEEDS a bump stock?

As the years have passed, some have admitted they are open to red flag laws. Is this still the case?

While the second amendment may be under attack, it is clear the fourth amendment is dead. Regardless of which party holds power in DC, the NSA is given continuous ability to spy on Americans. The simple, principled case from Rand Paul of "get a warrant" always falls on deaf ears.

The Bill of Rights should be a unifying document for most Americans, as the principles are self-evident and a significant part of any freedom platform going forward.

Conclusion

America will face significant challenges over the coming years. As the government continues to grow, the far left get more hostile, and central planners seek a great reset. If you share my concern, then now is the time to forget our tribes and ignore the debate on who should be President in 2024.

It's time to work hard to build a platform by raising a banner of bold colors, not pale pastels. We must share a clear vision to the American people of a bright future where they are free, prosperous, and can pursue their happiness.

When the platform is built and successful, people can identify the best candidate to run in 2024.

"First, you win the argument, and then you win the election." — Margaret Thatcher

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is under fire for questioning President Joe Biden's nominee for an assistant health secretary position, Dr. Rachel Levine, about her alleged support for giving children puberty blockers and sex-change surgeries.

During a confirmation hearing Thursday, Paul pointedly asked Levine, who is a transgender woman, about her support for allowing children to change their sex, and whether she believes children are capable of making such life-altering decisions.

Levine evaded the question, answering instead with a vague statement about the complexities of transgender medicine, which she would again reiterate for Paul's subsequent questions.

Watch a video clip of the confirmation hearing here.

Predictably, Paul has been labeled "transphobic" and accused of trying to derail Levine with "transphobic misinformation" by the leftist media.

On the Glenn Beck Radio Program Friday, Paul said his questioning Levine had nothing to do with who she is or the fact that she is a transgender adult, but was about the question of gender changes for children.

"The interesting thing is, none of it was directed towards her personally or who she is. It was directed towards the question of whether children can consent. And this is an intellectual question. It's not an inflammatory question. It's a question of serious consequences," he explained. "Most people would argue that children can't really make an informed consent. You know, we have laws against a man having sex with a 12-year-old, even if the 12-year-old says 'yes', because we don't think a 12-year-old is capable of consenting. They just aren't old enough to make the decision."

Paul went on to add, "I guess the danger is, you have to have some chutzpah. You have to have some guts, some courage to stand up because it is a culture out there where ... everybody is saying I made transphobic comments yesterday. All I did was ask whether a minor could consent to this kind of dramatic surgery. Nothing I ever said was hateful. I said nothing hateful about these people. I said nothing hateful about adults who choose to do this. But the culture is out there is so strong that so many in office are afraid to speak out. And it's getting worse.

"There's a handful of us that will speak out in the Senate. There's a handful in the House, and we just have to grow our ranks. But we have to resist or it just will roll over us. And we'll live in this terrible cancel culture world where nobody speaks out, and everybody is afraid to say anything."

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