Glenn Beck: On board with Flight 253


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GLENN: Kurt Haskell is also on the phone. He's a lawyer in Michigan. He was on Flight 253. He saw the flames coming out of the gentleman's underpants. He has quite a story to tell because he saw something before the plane even took off. Kurt Haskell, welcome to the program, Kurt.

CALLER: Hey, thanks for having me, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. First of all, tell me what you do. You are an attorney. So I'm not going to hold that against you and we'll try to find some credibility some place else with you, but you're an attorney in Michigan.

CALLER: Correct.

GLENN: And tell me about your experience.

CALLER: Sure. Where would you like me to begin?

GLENN: I don't know. Tell the story as you tell your friends.

CALLER: You got it. Okay. My story begins before boarding. My wife and I were sitting near the final ticket agent about ten feet away when I saw two men approach the ticket agent, a poor looking black teenager and another man I would describe to be around age 50 and he looked to be Indian to me or Pakistani or some similar descent. He looked to be wealthy and it kind of caught my eye that these two were together. So I watched them approach the final ticket agent. This is right before we board the plane and when he said was this man needs to board the plane but he doesn't have a passport. The ticket agent then responded, well, if he doesn't have a passport, he can't board the plane. And the Indian man then said, well, he's from Sudan, we do this all the time. And then the two of them were told to go talk to a manager down the hallway and then they went down the hallway. I didn't watch them after that. I never saw the Indian man again. And the black man I didn't see again until later when he tried to blow up our plane a few hours later.

GLENN: Do we have any idea who this well dressed man is?

CALLER: We have no idea. And actually there is security video of this incident that has still, eleven days into this, not been shown to the public.

GLENN: Why do you suppose that is?

CALLER: Well, you know, it seems to me that if I was wrong in my observation and, you know, I'm just an eyewitness, there's a possibility that I'm wrong and I'm confusing two men or something like that. Seems to me that the video would be put all over TV and the Internet to discredit my story. It hasn't been. So

GLENN: They don't do that anymore. They smear you.

CALLER: Right. Instead of putting that out there, they come out and all these people are trying to attempt to smear me. Now, to me that tells me that my story is correct and showing the video would prove me right and, you know, this would be one of the most wanted men in the world if my story's actually correct and I saw what I think I did. And if I am correct, wouldn't it make more sense to put this man's picture all over TV and the Internet so that we could identify him?

GLENN: Did Lori see it, your wife?

CALLER: My wife did not see this.

GLENN: Where was she?

CALLER: She was sitting next to me playing cards. Now, mind you this was such a minor event to me, it didn't set up any red flags or anything. I mean, it was such a minor event, I didn't even mention it to her until later after our plane had almost been blown up.

GLENN: Tell me what, before we move to the part where you were on the plane.

CALLER: Right.

GLENN: Tell me what your life has been like with Homeland Security and other government sources or government agencies coming to talk to you about this.

CALLER: The only agency that has talked to me has been the FBI and they've talked to me on two occasions. One time at the airport when we were being held in customs and the second

GLENN: And were they talking to everybody?

CALLER: They talked to everybody.

GLENN: Okay.

CALLER: And they paid a visit to my law office a week ago today, two different agents came in and spoke to my wife and myself.

GLENN: And what did they say? What were they interested in?

CALLER: Well, the interviews were almost exactly the same. I get the feeling that the second interview was more that they felt like an obligation that they had to talk to me because I had been out in the media speaking out and that really was just, you know, a dog and pony show that they felt like they had to be here to talk to me. It was pretty much exactly the same as the first interview except for this interview they brought a stack of pictures and they asked me who I could identify and who I couldn't.

GLENN: Did they have a picture of the sharp dressed man?

CALLER: No, they did not.

GLENN: Has anybody asked you to do a sketch of the guy?

CALLER: I don't believe that I could do a sketch of the guy. All the best description I can give is I think he was around age 50, I think he was from India. He had no accent, or he had an accent like mine if you say that I have an accent.

GLENN: He was an American wait, wait.

CALLER: A western United States accent.

GLENN: He was an American?

CALLER: Well, I can't go that far. He didn't have an accent. He looked wealthy.

GLENN: Well, hang on. To the rest of the world you have an accent.

CALLER: Right, okay. Maybe I do. That's what I'm saying. He has an accent similar to mine.

GLENN: Like yours.

CALLER: Similar to mine.

GLENN: Got it.

CALLER: He was approximately 6 feet tall and I would say between 230 and 240 pounds and he had a full head of hair. And that's the best description I can give.

GLENN: Kurt, if I happen to get my hands on somebody who is a police sketch artist, I think there's one here in New York that is a fan of the show who is one of the best in the country I think. Could I at least attempt that with you? Because I don't even know what questions they ask and

CALLER: I honestly don't know that I could do a sketch of his face. I didn't look at him that well.

GLENN: Okay.

CALLER: Unless maybe I was put under hypnosis or something. Maybe I could then. But, you know, there's a video out there of this. They've admitted it. Show the video. Why do we not have the video eleven days later? Why not?

GLENN: Any theories?

CALLER: You know, I don't really have any theories at this point. I just want answers to my questions. That's all.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you about when you were on the plane and the next time you saw this passenger who didn't have a passport and hopped on the plane with a sharp dressed man, and what happened? You saw the flames. You saw what was going on, and you describe the underwear bomber, if you will, with his pants or his crotch on fire in a very unique way.

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GLENN: Flight 253, Kurt Haskell sees a sharp dressed man aiding the terror suspect onto a plane and telling the ticket counter, no, we do this all the time, he doesn't have a passport, it's okay. They walk him down, check him out. He gets on the plane. Later, Kurt Haskell, how many rows away were you from the underwear bomber?

CALLER: We were eight rows behind him.

GLENN: What happened? Tell me about the flight and where you were and tell me the whole story.

CALLER: Sure. The flight was very noneventful. The pilot, we were in the middle of our descent and the pilot came on the loudspeaker and announced flight crew, take your seats, we're landing in ten minutes. And the flight attendant walked by our aisle. We were sitting in Row 27, my wife and I. We had the two seats next to the right window, and one of the flight attendants walked by our aisle and said something smells like smoke. And that got me to look up. I had been looking at the monitor to check out the flight data on the back of the seat in front of me. And I looked up and I could see smoke coming from Row 19 to my left by the window on the left side of the plane. So I got out of my seat and took a few steps up the aisle. And after I took about two or three steps, the seats around 19A burst into flames, the floor, the seats and up the wall to the base of the ceiling. While this was going on, I saw a man being pulled away into the first class part of the plane. He wasn't fighting back. So I wasn't really paying a lot of attention to him. At this point I didn't know if he was just a person injured in a fire or a terrorist or what, but he wasn't fighting back. So I wasn't really watching. I'm watching the fire to my left. A flight attendant, a black male flight attendant grabbed the fire extinguisher and ran over and put the fire out pretty fast, very fast actually and, you know, while all this was going on people are screaming fire, fire. One person screamed terrorist. I don't know who, but I did hear that. Water, water, we need water over here. And the pilot came back on the loudspeaker and said two words: Emergency landing. And you could feel the plane speed up at that point. And it was all over very quickly and we landed five to ten minutes after that.

GLENN: You say that the guy that was the terrorist, you didn't see him for very long, but was he screaming? Was he I mean, I would imagine if your underwear was on fire, you're in some pain.

CALLER: Right. He was not screaming at all. The three times that I saw him which would be before boarding, while he was being hauled away and then when he was being arrested after we landed, I would describe him as emotionless. That's the best description I can give you.

GLENN: Emotionless as in drugged or emotionless as in determined?

CALLER: Determined? No. As if I don't know how to describe it. As if he had no emotion whatsoever. I don't know how to give a better description than that.

GLENN: But not drugged?

CALLER: Well, I don't know how I can make that determination. He just had a blank look. A blank look on his face.

GLENN: At what point did you when you got up at what point, or did it, register to you, good heavens, we could all die?

CALLER: When the when Row 19 burst into flames. I thought I was dead for sure without question. We were still in an altitude of 20,000 feet at this point.

GLENN: When did it dawn on you that it may be a terrorist?

CALLER: It did not dawn on me that it was a terrorist until after we landed and I saw the terrorist man handcuffed and escorted off of our plane. And that's also when I made the connection back to this was the same man I saw before boarding. I got a better look at him this time. He stood in the aisle for about ten seconds before they took him away and I got pretty good look at him at this point.

GLENN: And that's when you told your wife?

CALLER: Right.

GLENN: What did his clothes look like? What was he how was he dressed after the fire?

CALLER: I believe he just had on a T shirt, and below the waist he was wrapped in something, a towel or a blanket or something because that was the area that was burned. And my understanding is his pants were burned or ripped off in first class or something. But I don't believe he had any pants on. I think it was a blanket.

GLENN: I hope they didn't put like rubbing alcohol like right over his burn area. That would have been tragic. Well, Kurt, thank you very much. And we will do our best to try to hunt down that tape and find some answers for you.

CALLER: Great.

GLENN: And get back to you. I don't know. You're an attorney in Michigan. Do you ever listen or watch the show?

CALLER: Actually, no, I don't really watch or listen to any talk shows at all. So no offense, I just don't listen or watch any of them. I put a lot of time into my work and I just don't have a lot of free time for talk shows.

GLENN: Are you a communist?

CALLER: Am I a communist? No, I'm not a communist.

GLENN: (Laughing). All right. Kurt, thank you very much, man, I appreciate it.

CALLER: Hey, no problem, Glenn, anytime.

GLENN: You got it, bye bye.

Hey Joe, THIS is how you handle terrorists

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If you haven't seen the new Apple TV+ drama Tehran, it's definitely worth your time. It tells the story of an Israeli spy who sneaks into Iran to set up an attack on Iran's nuclear program. Now that the new Bond movie is delayed, this show has a little bit of everything to hold you over: international spies, hackers, double agents.

But I digress...

No matter how Hollywood tries to invent these stories — and this one is definitely good — they always fall short of what happens in real life. What happened in Iran this past Friday is a movie waiting to happen.

What happened in Iran this past Friday is a movie waiting to happen.

Iran's top nuclear scientist, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, was assassinated as he was traveling to his private villa just a few miles east of Tehran. The operation involved a team of over 60 people. Around 50 logistical support agents backed up a dozen gunmen. They knew everything. His schedule, his private address, his classified movements, the route...

Fakhrizadeh was traveling in the middle of three armored vehicles. When they approached the ambush site, the hit team cut off all the electricity in the surrounding area. A car bomb was then remotely detonated, taking out the rear vehicle in the convoy. 12 gunmen proceeded to open fire on the other two cars. Iran's top nuclear scientist was dead, and NONE of the hit squad were wounded or arrested.

Now you can already guess where the blame is being directed this morning. Almost immediately, the fingers began to point at both Israel and the United States. The mainstream media is trying to paint this as an effort by Trump to sabotage a Biden effort to restart the Iran Nuclear Deal. Remember that "masterful" stroke of Middle East foreign policy? You know, the deal that included $150 BILLION — in cash — that Obama and Biden knew would be used to kill Americans and destabilize the entire region. Remember that?

They said it was impossible... but Trump did it.

They claimed their way was the only path to peace. What did they get from it? Iran spread out all the way to the literal doorstep of Israel. The elite Iraqi troops of the Republican Guard were staging in Syria, plotting that ultimate attack to take back Jerusalem. The entire region was set to explode... but then Trump scuttled the deal. What did it lead to? Historic peace agreements between the Arab world and Israel.

They said it was impossible... but Trump did it. He reimposed sanctions and launched a campaign to kill terrorists rather than give them money.

John Brennan took to Twitter this weekend to call the assassination a criminal act.

It echoes what they said when the top terrorist in the world — Qassem Soleimani — was assassinated in Iraq. Coincidentally, the Iranian government published artwork over the weekend depicting Soleimani and the, now dead, nuclear scientist standing side by side.

You see, now matter how people like Brennan and Biden might try and say otherwise, this is exactly the type of person Iran's "Robert Openheimer" was: a terrorist in the same category as Soleimani (but obviously with a lot more dangerous capability).

Iran has been protecting this man for two decades. They called him merely "an academic," but denied the UN IAEA inspectors to ever question him.

The rhetoric Iran fed the global community was that their nuclear program didn't have anything to do with weapons, and that this nuclear scientist was involved in research to improve their energy programs. But in 2007, the CIA said this was a cover story. In 2008, the United States froze his assets, and the IAEA made it public that this scientist was leading Iran's nuclear weapons project.

Iran called it "Projects 110 and 111." Fakhrizadeh was tasked with finding out how to miniaturize a nuclear warhead and make it durable enough so that it could survive re-entry into the atmosphere on top of an ICBM.

There can be no accommodation with terrorists.

Obama and Biden's nuclear deal didn't stop ANY of this. Israel revealed in 2018 that Projects 110 and 111 continued. Fakhrizadeh was specifically called out as still being the main man in charge.

Biden thinks his policy of accommodation will somehow bring us the peace that Neville Chamberlain once thought was possible with Hitler. When has this borne fruit with any maniacal tyrant or terrorist... ever?!

And that's exactly what Iran and their thugs are. They're terrorists! They're not a legitimate regime. Long before ISIS, the terrorists in Iran stole a country, planning to spread their caliphate all over the world. Members of Al Qaeda, despite being Sunni, enjoy free sanctuary under their protection. They want to burn Israel to the ground. They chant "death to America"... It's actually a holiday there.

There can be no accommodation with terrorists. Biden wants peace with Iran, and he'll probably roll out a red carpet and offer them a few hundred billion more dollars. We know this doesn't work. To quote Reagan, "there's one way to have peace and you can have it in this second... surrender."

That's how you deal with terrorists, and — whether we were involved or not — another one was just taken out.

How does a sports writer know how to fix America, and America's racial dilemma?

In a special edition of the "Glenn Beck Radio Program," Outkick sports columnist Jason Whitlock filled in Tuesday for Glenn to explain how we can bring America back together, lean into racial harmony, and restore the values of our Founding Fathers. Because if not us, then who will?

Jason started out by explaining how, during a recent appearance on the program, he felt a spiritual connection with Glenn, regardless of physical differences, as both share a common passion for God and country.

"Glenn and I share a kindred spirit. A kindred passion," Jason said. "We have two things that we love and are passionate about: God and country. I am not a minister. I'm a flawed sinner just like Glenn and just like you. But I am a believer. Believers share an energy that connects them, that cuts through our physical differences and makes those differences irrelevant relevant. That's what I felt when I met Glenn, an energy and a spirit that connects us. We are broadcasters, media personalities, operating in separate spaces, trying to talk to Americans, who share our passion."

Jason went on to say that he believes there are forces operating, both outside of and inside America, that are working to separate America from God, and that much of what we've witnessed in 2020 — from the racial division stirred by the mainstream and social media, to the rioting and looting by Antifa and Black Lives Matter, to the "remaking of the sports world into a shrine that celebrates resisting criminal suspects and denigrates this great country at every turn" — are symptoms and consequences of America's enemies separating God and country.

"We are one nation under God. We are nothing without Him," Jason continued. "The flawed sinners who founded this nation baked God into this country with their Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. That among those, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The foreign and domestic enemies of this nation are baking a new American cake. God isn't an essential ingredient in this new cake. He isn't an ingredient at all. The removal of faith is sewing the disharmony that is terrorizing and destroying the United States of America.

"Why am I here today? I'm here to tell you how we take our country back, how we restore the freedoms and the liberties our enemies seek to remove in their remaking of a godless America."

Watch the video below to hear more from Jason Whitlock:

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One of the most shocking things British journalist, political commentator, and author of "The Madness of Crowds," Douglas Murray witnessed during his recent stay in America, was how many Americans are acting as if they live in 1930s Germany or behind the Iron Curtain, afraid to stand up and speak out because they're afraid of the consequences.

Murray joined the "Glenn Beck Podcast" this week to explain why he believes the state of America is actually worse than we realize, and how the Left's obsession with rewriting history has ushered in guilt, fear, and a "silent majority."

Murray said he's particularly "fed up" with those on the Right who are afraid to voice their opinion because they don't want to become the target of leftist mobs on social media.

"Do you think anyone in history who told the truth had an easy time? You've got the easiest time that any opposition movement ever did in history," Murray said.

"You cannot have these people in America living in a free society — which is for the time being free — pretending that they live under the circumstances of Jews in 1930s Germany," he added. "Speak up. Speak out. Don't be a silent majority; be a very damn noisy majority. And don't put up with the oppression of people who are totally insincere ... they want to make money. They want to win. Nothing more. Call them out ... and get back to what you should be doing as a nation."

Watch the full interview with Douglas Murray below:



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New York City shut down its schools over the coronavirus with barely any notice. But even before that, Governor Andrew Cuomo apparently wasn't in the mood to be asked about it, and he made that very clear to reporters.

Asked on Wednesday whether parents could expect schools to be closed as soon as Thursday, Cuomo mocked reporters for their "obnoxious and offensive" questions and accused them of not paying attention. Watch the testy exchange for yourself here.

On Thursday's radio program, Glenn Beck and producer Stu Burguiere had plenty to say about Stu's least favorite governor and the decision to close schools. But Glenn also offered his own theory on why coronavirus restrictions have become so political: Americans refuse to be forced into submission.

Watch the video below to catch the conversation:

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