GLENN: All right. So Nancy Pelosi said President Obama wants, what? Something on C Span? What? Then when the reporter said, yeah, he said that these healthcare debates I mean, I'm glad that somebody's getting around to this now should all be out in the open and he would put it on C Span. And she said, well, a lot of things were said on the campaign trail. Like that's not insulting. I mean, we lie to people all the time.
STU: It wasn't this one lie. There were several lies, tons of lies. Why are you focusing on this one?
PAT: Say anything to get elected.
GLENN: You're lying!
PAT: Lying right now!
GLENN: Oh, my goodness.
PAT: I'm lying about lying!
GLENN: Oh, man. But I'm not lying about that, I'm not. (Laughing). Okay. So here is, from Breitbart.TV, I love Scott Baker. Scott Baker has gone back and, is it Scott that did this? And he's assembled all of the clips on the campaign trail of Barack Obama saying, "I want to make sure this is open."
PAT: On C Span, televised.
GLENN: I want it on C Span.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Not behind closed doors but bringing all parties together and broadcasting those negotiations on C Span so that the American people can see what the choices are because part of what we have to do is enlist the American people in this process.
GLENN: Yeah. Stop, stop, stop, stop. I love this. We have to enlist them: Shut those town hall meetings down. We have to enlist the American people: Those people are evil, dangerous. They are playing the politics of the past. They didn't enlist your help.
GLENN: We don't even know what's in the bill! People in congress don't even know what's in the bill.
STU: And I love how the audience collapse there. This is something they are excited about.
STU: The transparency, this is what they are voting for.
PAT: Because George Bush was so closed. It was a secretive administration. We never knew anything he was doing.
GLENN: How many times did we hear the debate is over? I just want him to sit down and shut up.
PAT: You mean with Bush? Well, not at all but I'm sure he thought.
STU: I'm sure he thought.
GLENN: You can see inside of people's soul.
PAT: Oh, yeah, read between the lines.
GLENN: Okay, so anyway, go ahead.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Plan forward, and I would welcome input and say either my goals, reduce costs, increase quality, coverage for everybody. If you have better ideas, please present them. But these negotiations will be on C Span.
PAT: We have.
GLENN: Wait. These negotiations will
PRESIDENT OBAMA: So the public will be part of the conversation and will see the choices that are being made.
Well, I respect what they tried to do in 1993 in moving health reform forward.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: But they made one really big mistake and that is they took all their people and all their experts into a room and then they closed the door.
PAT: That's completely different from the closed door meeting they are having now?
GLENN: No, no
PAT: Because it's a different room.
GLENN: I'm sure the door was open when Andy Stern was
PAT: Well, when they let him in, when they closed the door. And it's a different room.
STU: It's down the hall, maybe on another floor.
PAT: I think it's a totally different floor. Yes, the door's closed and we're talking to Andy and a couple of other special interests. But it's a different room.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We will work on this process publicly. It will be on C Span, it will be streaming over the Net.
GLENN: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I didn't know that. It's streaming over the net.
GLENN: What Net?
STU: C Span Net?
GLENN: Dot net?
STU: Dot biz.
PAT: Squiggly line, back slash, back slash.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Televised on C Span.
GLENN: That's four.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: So that people can see
GLENN: This is a commercial!
PRESIDENT OBAMA: who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies.
GLENN: Stop. We've got to play the John McCain saying, I don't know what special, you know, deal you're getting. I know that a special deal was made for the drug companies, but I don't know what deal with you because every door is closed to us. I mean, you've got to juxtapose these two.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We're going to do all these negotiations on C Span.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: So the American people will be able to watch these negotiations.
Drug and insurance companies will have a seat at the table. They just want be able to buy every single chair. And we will have a public.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: process for forming this plan. It will be televised on C Span.
STU: That's six.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: So that everybody's going to be watching, but it will be transparent and accountable to the American people.
GLENN: That's on a plane.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: That's why I said, for example, that I want the negotiations taking place on C Span.
STU: That's seven, seven.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: So I put forward my plan but what I'll say is, look, if you've got better ideas, I'm happy to listen to them. But all this will be done on C Span.
PAT: Number 8.
GLENN: There you go. So I'm looking forward to those negotiations being on C Span dot net dot org.
PAT: Dot us, dot gov.
GLENN: Here's why it's not going to be on C Span or wouldn't be on C Span if they had their way because they learned their lesson, as we pointed out last night with the League of Nations. I mean, I read all about Woodrow Wilson, how long was I boring this audience with Woodrow Wilson stuff? They learned during the League of Nations, Woodrow Wilson said we're going to be open, we're going to be honest, we're going to tell you this is what it is and he made the case and he went from city to city. In fact, he had a stroke in California during a debate about the League of Nations. And he kept going. And he was never seen in public again after that because he was incapacitated. But he served out his term. But they learned their lesson. You cannot have an open, honest debate. You've got to use a crisis, shut down debate and keep it closed. And if you look at the difference between the way the progressives handled the League of Nations, learn their lesson and then use those three things to jam through the United Nations, it's the same pattern that they are using on everything else today.