by Sarah Palin
GLENN: From high above Times Square in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. I can't believe I have to put her on. She's going to take my 5:00 time slot. I just know it. Okay, pretend I didn't say that. Sarah Palin, are you there?
SARAH PALIN: Hey, Glenn, how are you?
GLENN: Well, I'd be good if you weren't going to steal my 5:00 time slot.
SARAH PALIN: Oh, darn, the cat's out of the bag. You found out my ploy, yeah.
GLENN: Can you believe. You know, I sent you a message yesterday that this was on the front page of AOL yesterday that I was all upset that you were going to steal my 5:00 time slot. Well, first of all, are you?
SARAH PALIN: That wasn't in the plan.
GLENN: I knew it! Today it is, oh, that was of course that was ridiculous. Beck is going to steal the 8:00 time slot with Bill O'Reilly. Yes, now they
SARAH PALIN: We'll pull a Leno/O'Brien with all that stuff going on, yeah. No.
GLENN: You are back in Alaska?
SARAH PALIN: I am in Alaska this morning, yes.
GLENN: Have you seen a polar bear, tracked a polar bear, killed a wolf, anything like that in the last 24 hours?
SARAH PALIN: Haven't killed anything. Seen a few moose cross the road in front of me, though.
GLENN: Okay. I mean, I guess that counts, doesn't that? That counts. Sarah, I wanted to get you on the phone and I wanted to talk to you about a couple of things. First of all, what do you think of Scott Brown winning? What do you think the message was?
SARAH PALIN: I think the message was people in Massachusetts, really representing the rest of the nation, up in arms and anti-leftist sentiment that they expressed via that Massachusetts vote. It's very, very good. I think Michelle Malkin hit the nail on the head, though, in writing recently that nobody better become complacent and cocky about this victory of Brown's because Obama I think is going to be more geared up than ever to ram some things down our throat because I believe that the left now understands that they could have some limited time to usher in their agenda. So we need to be very wary, very aware of the lip service that we're going to receive from the White House and be ever vigilant in keeping track of what they're doing and holding them accountable.
GLENN: Have you had a chance to watch the show the last couple of days?
SARAH PALIN: I sure have.
SARAH PALIN: Pretty amazing.
GLENN: Yesterday the opening 20 minutes, I mean, I think I make a pretty good compelling case but I'm getting all kinds of heat for it that I think the president is in danger from the left because the left is the only one with the real history of violence. And I think this guy, I think he's trapped. I don't think he can go moderate because he has surrounded himself with extraordinarily dangerous people that actually do believe that power comes from the barrel of a gun. And if they they believe he is going to usher in the, you know, the Venezuelan Democratic revolution here in America. And if he is seen as not doing that, I think he's in big, big trouble from the left.
SARAH PALIN: Well, I think he did put himself in a box. And I think you are right, that moderation will be absent from his administration because he does have selected around him those so far out on that leftist fringe as to be out of touch with what Americans expect from their government. So putting himself in that box, he is not going to be able, I believe he's moved towards more of that center. Otherwise he moves his entire base. He, of course, doesn't have the independent and rightist base right now. He's going to lose a leftist, too. I think you hit the nail on head there.
GLENN: Hang on. Sarah, I want to introduce you to my best friend Pat Gray who is also on the show, and he's got audio from Barack Obama last night.
PAT: Sarah, last night the president said that it was the fact that he had lost direct contact with the American people that was the problem. They didn't see him enough last night. Here's part of what he said.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: And, you know, if there's one, one thing that I regret this year is that we were so busy just getting stuff done and dealing with the immediate crises that were in front of us that I think we lost some of that sense of, you know, speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are. And I think that, you know, the thing I'm seeing is remoteness and attachment and I think that I can do a better job at that and partly because I believe that.
GLENN: We need the Obama channel.
PAT: I mean, there is one. Do you believe there's any other place, venue, media where he could possibly show up any more than he already has?
SARAH PALIN: I think we're kind of saturated with that communication from the White House. So his thinking on this is, okay, no policy shift, no changes there in what he's doing to America but instead they will communicate more to us more about what it is that they are doing. That's not the answer. Go back again to the Scott Brown race. Coakley was the epitome of an Obama candidate, quite arrogant, quite disconnected from the electorate in a very, very blue state and yet Massachusetts said, no, we want transparency, accountability, we want a true representative form of government. And we see this in this candidate, Scott Brown, we're going to elect him. For Obama to be in denial of what took place two days ago is very baffling, it's confusing to a lot of Americans who were saying, wait a minute, you are smarter than this Obama, surely he sees what truly is going on.
GLENN: Sarah, when you were you became governor, I mean, one of the things I have really admired in you and I think that nobody pays attention to this, and they should because it is the secret to you. When you first went in, they tried to buy you off. You know, they tried to put you on councils and cozy up to you and get you into the system, and you ratted out your own party and said, excuse me? This is corrupt, this is what's going on, and you changed the system and broke the back of the big oil graft that was going up in Alaska. Do I have that story right?
SARAH PALIN: Yeah, I did have to part ways with my party leadership. I've been doing that, though, ever since I was a city council member in Wasilla in 1992 that all began. So, yeah, I've never been kind of part of that team, if you will.
GLENN: So there's two questions. One is can an individual you've now seen, you know, Alaska and you've done it, you know, pretty much by yourself in Alaska, or at least you were the leader of it there. But Alaska's a lot different than the United States government, and this is just a nightmare cesspool down here in Washington. Can one person break the back or do you need a coalition of politicians? And B, you are known for bucking the system, but one of the biggest progressives out there is John McCain. And you are still supporting him and you are campaigning for him. I don't understand it.
SARAH PALIN: I am. I'm supporting him. I keep my word. John McCain is on fire to kill Obama's government takeover of healthcare and that's what I want to see. And his commitment and his leadership on national security to win the war on terror, that's what we need. And I'm going to support him. And he is a statesman, and I don't hesitate at all to say, no, we do need his leadership, especially on those two fronts: Government takeover of healthcare, he wants to kill it; national security, he gets it. He understands how to win.
GLENN: He is for I mean, he's a progressive. He will I mean, he is the kind of guy that he wants to kill this healthcare, but he'll come up with another, you know, Romney like healthcare program that is involving the government. I mean, he was for, you know, a lot of the things that Barack Obama is for.
SARAH PALIN: I dare say a whole lot of politicians in D.C. are starting to see the light. And I'm not saying that John McCain ever was in the dark, but I think these messages sent via Virginia, New Jersey, Scott Brown's race in Massachusetts, politicians in D.C., in the GOP and those independents are saying, okay, we're not alone in this anyway, look at this rising up of the Tea Party movement, of activists saying, no, this anti-leftist agenda is what we're going to be standing for it. We want a shrinkage of government, not a growth of government. We want less intrusion in our lives from our government. McCain and others are I believe jumping on board, being more adamant than ever about that type of an agenda.
GLENN: And can one, can one person go in, can a president go in without the party? Because I just don't trust the Republicans. I'm not going to trust anybody. You know, I'm going to I'll vote the best I can but I'm going to watch you like a hawk every step of the way once, you know, Scott Brown, great, great. Now, what are you doing today? And if he goes awry, I pull my support. I mean, I'll support you while I can until you decide to, you know, become part of the system and you are assimilated into the Borg. Can we
SARAH PALIN: Yeah, don't put your faith in a politician, no. A politician is going to disappoint you. They will make decisions that you can't agree with. And too often then that leads to that disenchantment, disenfranchisement from that politician and from their agenda. No, it takes more than one person, and I appreciate that Scott Brown seems to be absent of a political machine around him. I want him to stay pure. I don't want him to be caught up in
GLENN: Can they? Can they?
SARAH PALIN: He has to. We beg him to. Stay pure, stay committed and convicted on those things that got you to where you are today.
GLENN: Because honestly, Sarah, that's the thing that scares me about you is you've been independent. But the more you are I mean, I like you when you're in Alaska because you are away from all of those dirtbags. And the more you get involved with, and I just wonder because I don't know if I could. You know, you lose your soul. We've talked about this before. You know, can you and can people like Scott Brown stay out of the system because they're constantly asking you, no, no, no, you've got to, you've got to cut the corner on this one. And I know it's just this one, but this one's important. And before you know it, you've compromised yourself into oblivion.
SARAH PALIN: If you want to be able to sleep well at night and if you are in an elected office, you stay committed to what it is that got you to where you are. That's what I thought about that every day, Glenn. It would be, because a friend had told me this years ago. He said in politics you are either eating well or sleeping well. I decided I wanted to sleep well and that's why I've made a lot of the decisions that I have that, yeah, really booted me outside of any kind of machine or any kind of I guess comfort and security that you would have knowing that a political machine has your back and they'll come bail you out and they will come defend you and they will get on the air and they'll tell you, oh, what a great decision. I haven't had that luxury at all. But I sleep well at night because I know that I'm doing what is in my heart, my soul, my gut. I believe that I am connected to a whole lot of Americans who think the way that I think, common sense, conservative ideals and principles. I'm sleeping well and I want Scott Brown and other politicians to be in that same position.
GLENN: Last question. You know, what was it, two weeks ago when we met, you met my son Raphe. He was very interested, you know, when we were leaving. I talked about, you know, that you used to be the governor of Alaska, and he didn't really care. And then we started talking about Alaska and he really didn't care. And then I said, you know, that's up by the North Pole, and he wanted to know, he wanted to know if you were the governor of the North Pole and you had ever met Santa.
SARAH PALIN: I have met Santa, yes.
GLENN: Yes, you have.
SARAH PALIN: I have met Santa and you tell him, yes, that I was the governor of the North Pole and I
GLENN: And because you're
SARAH PALIN: I'm in a position where I can keep a good eye on Raphe and make sure that all is well in your household.
GLENN: All right, good. And I just want to make sure. Because I told him yes, you were, and it was because you were a conservative that you made sure that Santa paid no taxes so the toys remain free. All right. Thanks a lot.
SARAH PALIN: And I'm sure he rolled his eyes.
GLENN: Yeah, he lost interest right away. Thanks a lot, I appreciate it, Sarah, we'll talk to you again.
SARAH PALIN: Talk to you, too, bye.
GLENN: Sarah Palin who, she's going to take my 5:00 slot. And I hate her for it!