Chris Matthews: not colorblind

Video: Chris Matthews On Obama "I Forgot He Was Black Tonight"

GLENN: Do you have the Chris Matthews? I think you have to give him credit for having the guts to really reveal himself and say what he's been apparently thinking for a very long time.

MATTHEWS: He is post racial by all appearances. You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. You know, he's

PAT: So dumb.

GLENN: No, it's not. It's just, it's beyond. It is racist.

PAT: It is.

GLENN: It is racist. I don't know of an anything that I have heard that somebody said on TV that's truly racist. He always see, okay, they are going to say it's racist, they are going to do this, they are going to do that. I don't think that one is. That doesn't mean you take him off TV. You just know who he is. That one's racist. Come on.

STU: I mean, I know what you mean.

GLENN: You forgot he was black for an hour?

STU: There's really not a lot of ways to take that, but

GLENN: There's no way. Give another way.

STU: Well, I think what he was trying to say...

GLENN: No, no. Let's not read into his

STU: You have to read into it. That's what I'm doing.

GLENN: Give me a context where that works.

STU: He is talking about, you know, he's just colorblind, we don't even see his race because the speech was so great, it transcended race. You know, I'm not saying

GLENN: That's the same as "I forget he's black for an hour"?

STU: Yes.

PAT: It would be great if he said he transcends race.

STU: He says a lot of things poorly which is why no one watches him.

GLENN: Let's try this on for size, try this on for size. Boy, the surgeon that was doing the surgery on me, he was just so unbelievable, I forgot that he was black for an hour.

STU: (Laughing).

PAT: That just means he's such a good surgeon, he transcends racial barriers.

GLENN: Race.

STU: Fantastic point.

PAT: Yeah, it is.

GLENN: Help me out. Give me any scenario, any scenario where that works.

STU: I just don't

GLENN: My preacher, he was preaching the gospel the other day and he stood up there in front of the congregation and he was so amazing, I forgot that he was black for an hour.

STU: (Laughing).

GLENN: Help me out.

STU: This is fantastic. Do more of them. I want more!

GLENN: I could do anything. So I went into my, I went into my pharmacy and I had to pick up my prescription drugs and I'm talking to this pharmacist behind the counter. He was he's such a nice guy, I forgot that he was black for an hour.

PAT: (Laughing). That's a good one.

GLENN: My son brings over a friend, he goes to school with this friend. Just the cutest kid and so smart and so sweet and I'm sitting there and I'm talking to him. I'm reading the two of them, you know, because he had a slumber party and I'm reading to the two of them and I look at his friend and I forgot that his friend was black for an hour! Help me out! How else do you read that?

STU: You make an excellent case. (Laughing).

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I was doing an interview yesterday. I was doing an interview yesterday and we have this new IT guy that I was interviewing and he was so smart and he's from IBM and I thought, I forgot that he was black during the interview!

STU: And the thing is, he did such a good job during the interview, I forgot he was black because that's really the

PAT: That shows your racial bias.

GLENN: I really do, honestly I did do an interview yesterday with an African American who wants to be an IT guy here. He's worked for IBM and everything else and he came in and I looked at his resume and I said, you are wildly overqualified for this job. You realize that? And he was like, well, you know, I keep hearing that. And I'm like no, no, no. No, no. Here's the IT job: My screen doesn't work. I've plugged it in and plugged it out again. You know, okay. Can you imagine if I had a conversation with him and then ended it with, by the way, you are so you are amazing. I forgot you were black.

STU: (Laughing).

GLENN: What is that?

STU: Wow.

PAT: Unbelievable.

STU: You are making an excellent case here. I don't I mean, I always just feel like it's I hate to, you know, I hate to, like people make, we make dumb comments all the time that are taken out of context or just taken as serious when we didn't mean them that way.

GLENN: This is not a dumb comment. This is a window into the way he thinks. Now, this doesn't mean that you take him off, this doesn't mean that you, you know, say he's a racist. I think this is a racist comment on this

STU: Sure.

GLENN: He views everything with the lens of race in the glasses. He has to, at least with Barack Obama. He must.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Because what he's saying is for an hour I forgot about race. Well, that means the rest of the time, the other 23 hours when you were thinking about Barack Obama yesterday, you thought about race. I don't. I don't think of race with him. Occasionally I will think of race. And only you know, here's how I go with race with Barack Obama is once in a while he will get into a cadence where he sounds like a preacher. And so he gets into that preacher cadence. And the only reason I think of race on that is because the preacher cadence makes me think of reverend Jeremiah Wright, and there's no mistaking well, I mean, I guess he could be a white guy that just hates all white guys. But that's, I mean, that's the only time I think of race with Barack Obama.

STU: The only time I ever think about it is when people like Chris Matthews blame us for not liking him because of race.

GLENN: You can add that as well.

STU: But it is an odd comment. You like to give people the benefit of the doubt that they just said it poorly or, like, what he was trying to say was not that and he said it in an awful way. But when you bring it up in the other context that you just brought it up in, you realize that if a conservative said something like that

GLENN: Hang on. Said what. Play it again, please, just in case you just joined us.

MATTHEWS: Post racial by all appearances. You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour, you know.

PAT: Mmm.

STU: Can you just do one more, another scenario you could do?

GLENN: Play it again, please.

MATTHEWS: He is post racial by all appearances. You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. You know, I'm having

GLENN: So I'm having this interview with these astronauts and this guy is up in the space shuttle and he's so smart and he's talking about all the, you know, all the scientists, the scientific experiments they are doing and I'm thinking to myself, oh, my gosh, for an hour during this conversation I forgot he was black.

STU: (Laughing). It is, when you really take it out of this bizarre world there.

GLENN: I brought my car in to have the oil changed and I'm talking to this guy and he's a really nice guy and we're just talking about cars and we end up talking about the ball game and everything else. For an hour there I forgot he was black.

STU: (Laughing). I mean, god, you never get away with it in any other context.

GLENN: My garbage man, he was coming out in the garbage and, you know, I'm bringing my trash out early in the morning and I'm like, hey, Pete, how are you? And he's like, good, Mr. Beck, how are you? And I'm like, good. We're just talking about stuff and for a while there I forgot he was black.

STU: Go to, like, the presidential context of, like, President Bush saying action you know, hey, we're in middle of the Iraq war and Colin Powell comes into my office or Condoleezza rice comes into my office and they are so smart. They understand this war. They are such great managers of these situations and I just forget they're black sometimes. I mean, can you imagine if he said that? It would be the front page story on every paper for a year.

GLENN: As it should be. I cannot make this work. Unless you are like, I mean, I didn't just didn't think black people could do this.

STU: Yeah, I mean

GLENN: Name another way.

STU: The only way is if he just flubbed the comment and he said it very poor. He said it very poorly.

GLENN: Listen to it again. Listen to it again.

MATTHEWS: I was trying to think about who he was tonight. It's interesting. He is post racial by all appearances. You know, I forgot he was black tonight.

GLENN: No, no. No, no. I forgot I'm black tonight. That's not the whole comment. If he even would have ended it there, it would have been a little better. Go back.

STU: Can you play a little bit more?

GLENN: Play a little bit more, please.

MATTHEWS: He is post racial by all appearances. You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. You know, he's got a

GLENN: I forgot he was black tonight.

PAT: For an hour!

GLENN: That's not even as bad as, I mean, it's still bad but I forgot that he was black tonight for about an hour.

STU: If nothing else we could just admire the idiocy. If we could just sit back for a moment and just admire what a stupid thing that is to say on television.

PAT: As if the thrill comment, the thrill up his leg thing wasn't bad enough. I mean, this thing, this is way worse.

STU: Outdoes himself. Every major speech Chris Matthews I couldn't tell does himself with a stupid comment.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: It's magnificent.

GLENN: Now, may I, may I say something else that I don't think anybody's going to say? Well, nothing's off limits now. I mean, look at as long as, as long as Chris Matthews is on the air, I guess anything can be said. Did anybody else think that, A, the amount of money do you know how many, how many children could be fed with just the amount of money in plastic surgery between Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden? Can you see them sitting behind them, sitting behind the president last night, two things came to mind. First of all, I think Nancy Pelosi was just, she may have a cold or something and she took Nyquil or whatever but she just was like, she was staring out in space. A few times I thought she was going to drool. She was like, I must have had too much Nyquil. Joe Biden I believe was doing a mime show behind the president. I believe he was trying to mime the different things like, yes, jobs, that's good, uh huh.

STU: Very animated. Yes, very.

GLENN: He was so animated, it was distracting. It was embarrassing.

PAT: So was, I get distracted by her I mean, she does stair off into space sometimes but Pelosi has this blinking problem where she blinks like 90 times a minute.

GLENN: I can't, I can't even look at her because of the plastic surgery.

PAT: So between the three of them, they could have been winky, blinky and nod, because he kept nodding. Biden's nodding at everything and smiling and beaming yes and she's beaming and he's winking, and it's little and all the other arrogant progressives in the crowd, it's just winky, blinky and nod up there. It was tough.

GLENN: It was really tough. I couldn't take Joe Biden and his really, really, really white teeth?

STU: Really happy.

GLENN: His really, really white teeth.

STU: Big smile.

GLENN: I almost forgot that he was white for an hour. Wait a minute.

STU: I don't know what you meant there. I don't know.

PAT: Ooh, that was a conservative saying something about

STU: Something about white or black or something or color.

GLENN: He just mentioned a color.

PAT: Or lack of color, one of the two. I don't know. Is white the absence of color or the total...

GLENN: It was crazy last night.

PAT: It was an awful night.

GLENN: It was.

PAT: It was one of the toughest nights of all time. It was.

GLENN: Only because, look, I don't have a problem with disagreeing with somebody. I really don't. I have such a problem with someone, I mean, bald face lies. Just bald face lies. I had a hard time. Maybe it's just me.

The number of people serving life sentences now exceeds the entire prison population in 1970, according to newly-released data from the Sentencing Project. The continued growth of life sentences is largely the result of "tough on crime" policies pushed by legislators in the 1990s, including presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Biden has since apologized for backing those types of policies, but it seems he has yet to learn his lesson. Indeed, Biden is backing yet another criminal justice policy with disastrous consequences—mandatory drug treatment for all drug offenders.

Proponents of this policy argue that forced drug treatment will reduce drug usage and recidivism and save lives. But the evidence simply isn't on their side. Mandatory treatment isn't just patently unethical, it's also ineffective—and dangerous.

Many well-meaning people view mandatory treatment as a positive alternative to incarceration. But there's a reason that mandatory treatment is also known as "compulsory confinement." As author Maya Schenwar asks in The Guardian, "If shepherding live human bodies off to prison to isolate and manipulate them without their permission isn't ethical, why is shipping those bodies off to compulsory rehab an acceptable alternative?" Compulsory treatment isn't an alternative to incarceration. It is incarceration.

Compulsory treatment is also arguably a breach of international human rights agreements and ethical standards. The World Health Organization (WHO) and the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) have made it clear that the standards of ethical treatment also apply to the treatment of drug dependence—standards that include the right to autonomy and self-determination. Indeed, according to UNODC, "people who use or are dependent on drugs do not automatically lack the capacity to consent to treatment...consent of the patient should be obtained before any treatment intervention." Forced treatment violates a person's right to be free from non-consensual medical treatment.

It's a useless endeavor, anyway, because studies have shown that it doesn't improve outcomes in reducing drug use and criminal recidivism. A review of nine studies, published in the International Journal of Drug Policy, failed to find sufficient evidence that compulsory drug treatment approaches are effective. The results didn't suggest improved outcomes in reducing drug use among drug-dependent individuals enrolled in compulsory treatment. However, some studies did suggest potential harm.

According to one study, 33% of compulsorily-treated participants were reincarcerated, compared to a mere 5% of the non-treatment sample population. Moreover, rates of post-release illicit drug use were higher among those who received compulsory treatment. Even worse, a 2016 report from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health found that people who received involuntary treatment were more than twice as likely to die of an opioid-related overdose than those with a history of only voluntary treatment.

These findings echo studies published in medical journals like Addiction and BMJ. A study in Addiction found that involuntary drug treatment was a risk factor for a non-fatal drug overdose. Similarly, a study in BMJ found that patients who successfully completed inpatient detoxification were more likely than other patients to die within a year. The high rate of overdose deaths by people previously involuntarily treated is likely because most people who are taken involuntarily aren't ready to stop using drugs, authors of the Addiction study reported. That makes sense. People who aren't ready to get clean will likely use again when they are released. For them, the only post-treatment difference will be lower tolerance, thanks to forced detoxification and abstinence. Indeed, a loss of tolerance, combined with the lack of a desire to stop using drugs, likely puts compulsorily-treated patients at a higher risk of overdose.

The UNODC agrees. In their words, compulsory treatment is "expensive, not cost-effective, and neither benefits the individual nor the community." So, then, why would we even try?

Biden is right to look for ways to combat addiction and drug crime outside of the criminal justice system. But forced drug treatment for all drug offenders is a flawed, unethical policy, with deadly consequences. If the goal is to help people and reduce harm, then there are plenty of ways to get there. Mandatory treatment isn't one of them.

Lindsay Marie is a policy analyst for the Lone Star Policy Institute, an independent think tank that promotes freedom and prosperity for all Texans. You can follow her on Twitter @LindsayMarieLP.

President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani joined Glenn Beck on Tuesday's radio program discuss the Senate's ongoing investigation into former vice president Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, and reveal new bombshell documents he's currently releasing.

Giuliani told Glenn he has evidence of "very, very serious crime at the highest levels of government," that the "corrupt media" is doing everything in their power to discredit.

He also dropped some major, previously unreported news: not only was Hunter Biden under investigation in 2016, when then-Vice President Biden "forced" the firing of Ukraine's prosecutor general Viktor Shokin, but so was the vice president himself.

"Shokin can prove he was investigating Biden and his son. And I now have the prosecutorial documents that show, all during that period of time, not only was Hunter Biden under investigation -- Joe Biden was under investigation," Giuliani explained. "It wasn't just Hunter."

Watch this clip to get a rundown of everything Giuliani has uncovered so far.

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For most Americans, the 1980s was marked by big hair, epic lightsaber battles, and school-skipping Ferris Bueller dancing his way into the hearts of millions.

But for Bernie Sanders — who, by the way, was at that time the oldest-looking 40-year-old in human history — the 1980s was a period of important personal milestones.

Prior to his successful 1980 campaign to become mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Sanders was mostly known around the Green Mountain State as a crazy, wildly idealistic socialist. (Think Karl Marx meets Don Quixote.) But everything started to change for Sanders when he became famous—or, in the eyes of many, notorious—for being "America's socialist mayor."

As mayor, Sanders' radical ideas were finally given the attention he had always craved but couldn't manage to capture. This makes this period of his career particularly interesting to study. Unlike today, the Bernie Sanders of the 1980s wasn't concerned with winning over an entire nation — just the wave of far-left New York City exiles that flooded Vermont in the 1960s and 1970s — and he was much more willing to openly align himself with local and national socialist and communist parties.

Over the past few weeks, I have been reading news reports of Sanders recorded in the 1980s — because, you know, that's how guys like me spend their Saturday nights — and what I've found is pretty remarkable.

For starters, Sanders had (during the height of the Soviet Union) a very cozy relationship with people who openly advocated for Marxism and communism. He was an elector for the Socialist Workers Party and promoted the party's presidential candidates in 1980 and 1984.

To say the Socialist Workers Party was radical would be a tremendous understatement. It was widely known SWP was a communist organization mostly dedicated to the teachings of Marx and Leon Trotsky, one of the leaders of the Russian Revolution.

Among other radical things I've discovered in interviews Sanders conducted with the SWP's newspaper — appropriately named The Militant (seriously, you can't make this stuff up) — is a statement by Sanders published in June 1981 suggesting that some police departments "are dominated by fascists and Nazis," a comment that is just now being rediscovered for the first time in decades.

In 1980, Sanders lauded the Socialist Workers Party's "continued defense of the Cuban revolution." And later in the 1980s, Sanders reportedly endorsed a collection of speeches by the socialist Sandinistas in Nicaragua, even though there had been widespread media reports of the Sandinistas' many human rights violations prior to Sanders' endorsement, including "restrictions on free movement; torture; denial of due process; lack of freedom of thought, conscience and religion; denial of the right of association and of free labor unions."

Sanders also traveled to Nicaragua and met with socialist President Daniel Ortega. He later called the trip a "profoundly emotional experience."

Sanders also traveled to Nicaragua and met with socialist President Daniel Ortega. He later called the trip a "profoundly emotional experience."

Comrade Bernie's disturbing Marxist past, which is far more extensive than what can be covered in this short article, shouldn't be treated as a mere historical footnote. It clearly illustrates that Sanders' brand of "democratic socialism" is much more than a $15 minimum wage and calls for single-payer health care. It's full of Marxist philosophy, radical revolutionary thinking, anti-police rhetoric, and even support for authoritarian governments.

Millions of Americans have been tricked into thinking Sanders isn't the radical communist the historical record — and even Sanders' own words — clearly show that he is. But the deeper I have dug into Comrade Bernie's past, the more evident it has become that his thinking is much darker and more dangerous and twisted than many of his followers ever imagined.

Tomorrow night, don't miss Glenn Beck's special exposing the radicals who are running Bernie Sanders' campaign. From top to bottom, his campaign is staffed with hard-left extremists who are eager to burn down the system. The threat to our constitution is very real from Bernie's team, and it's unlike anything we've ever seen before in a U.S. election. Join Glenn on Wednesday, at 9 PM Eastern on BlazeTV's YouTube page, and on And just in case you miss it live, the only way to catch all of Glenn's specials on-demand is by subscribing to Blaze TV.

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Candace Owens, BLEXIT founder and author of the upcoming book, "Blackout," joined Glenn Beck on Friday's GlennTV for an exclusive interview. available only to BlazeTV subscribers.

Candace dropped a few truth-bombs about the progressive movement and what's happening to the Democratic Party. She said people are practically running away from the left due to their incessant push to dig up dirt on anybody who disagrees with their radical ideology. She explained how -- like China and its "social credit score" -- the left is shaping America into its own nightmarish episode of "Black Mirror."

"This game of making sure that everyone is politically correct is a societal atom bomb. There are no survivors. There's no one that is perfect," Candace said. "The idea that humanity can be perfect is Godless. If you accept that there is something greater than us, then you accept that we a flawed. To be human is to be flawed."

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