GLENN: So here's Michelle Obama talking about her daughter's weight. Is this yesterday?
PAT: Yeah, I think it was yesterday.
GLENN: Listen to this.
MICHELLE OBAMA: So even though I wasn't exactly sure at that time what I was supposed to do with this information about my children's BMI, I knew that I had to do something that
PAT: And that's not even weight! BMI, her body mass index?
GLENN: How do you even measure that? Stu, do you know?
PAT: Stu, might know. Stu, do you
GLENN: Is this where they put you in a pool?
PAT: I think it's your weight by your height by
STU: Yeah, I think it's a weight/height situation.
GLENN: Oh, my body index must be
PAT: My body mass index is all fat.
GLENN: No, that's body fat.
PAT: Oh, that's body fat.
GLENN: That's when they put you in the pool, right, because fat floats?
PAT: I don't know.
STU: Yeah, just height and weight are the only ones.
PAT: I don't know. Who even knows their children's BMI? I mean
GLENN: Especially her daughters because her daughters
PAT: That's tiny.
GLENN: Who's taking their daughters' BMI because they're not fat.
STU: My understanding, too, is that BMI is not designed for children. It doesn't even work.
PAT: I don't think it is.
STU: It's just for adults.
PAT: Maybe a doctor or like a fitness instructor or something.
GLENN: You know what? Could you find that out for sure? Because this first lady, her job is to stop obesity in children. And if she's talking about BMI and it's not even supposed to be used for children, that's pretty dangerous.
STU: Hold on. Let me
GLENN: You want to talk about giving kids a complex. Now you've got the First Lady talking about I mean, no offense. Your arms are all that, but... but... hmmm?
PAT: Excuse me?
GLENN: I'm just leaving it there.
PAT: All right. So you're
GLENN: So let's not take on your let's not take
PAT: Your arms are all that, but... that's weird.
GLENN: Why do you focus on the butt?
PAT: No, I wasn't. I was just
GLENN: I'm just saying your arms are all that, but...
PAT: I was looking for, you know, like a conjunction there of
GLENN: Oh, some additional information?
PAT: Conjunction junction.
GLENN: Maybe you should leave your kids alone.
PAT: Okay, all right, good.
GLENN: Maybe your kids don't need to have the arms.
PAT: I was just going back to Schoolhouse Rock, conjunction junction, what's your function, hooking to parts of a sentence.
GLENN: And what are some of those conjunctions that you'd use?
PAT: Like but, you know, would be one... is all.
GLENN: But... leave your kids alone.
GLENN: Here she is. She goes on.
PAT: But she didn't leave her kids alone.
MICHELLE OBAMA: I had to lead our family to a different way. But the beauty was that
GLENN: Hang on just a second. Hold on. So she had to lead the way. She led the way.
PAT: To a different way.
GLENN: To a different way. Okay, all right, got it.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Just a few months we started really minor changes. And I share this story because the changes were so minor.
MICHELLE OBAMA: We did things like, you know, limit TV time. My kids were already fairly active but, you know
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We cut TV time out during the week and that helped increase activity because they would just
GLENN: Hang on just a second. Didn't her husband say cut out TV time, people stop watching the news?
PAT: Seems to be a theme.
GLENN: Let's get the kids, let's not watch the TV.
PAT: I think the thing is she told us during the campaign that Barack wouldn't allow us to do certain things, didn't she?
GLENN: Where? Where did she
MICHELLE OBAMA: And Barack Obama will require you to work.
PAT: He will require us to work.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Is going to demand.
MICHELLE OBAMA: that you shed your cynicism.
MICHELLE OBAMA: That you put down your divisions.
PAT: Put down.
MICHELLE OBAMA: That you come out of your isolation.
PAT: Come out.
MICHELLE OBAMA: That you move our your comfort zone.
PAT: Move out.
MICHELLE OBAMA: That you push yourselves
MICHELLE OBAMA: to be better. And that you engage.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual.
PAT: Never allow. That's nine demands Barack was going to make on us and obviously one of those is our eating habits.
GLENN: I like that.
PAT: And don't watch TV.
GLENN: Stu, do you have the update on the BMI?
STU: Yeah, the standard way they do BMI does not apply to children, which is basically what I was remembering. They do have a measure of it. It's just kind of rated differently. It's a little
GLENN: What's my BMI?
STU: How many I'm going to have to pull up several commas.
GLENN: 226 .
STU: Okay, hold on a second.
GLENN: And I'm 226, and I'm 6, I like to say 6' 3".
STU: Yeah, you like.
GLENN: My driver's license says 6' 2" but I like to say 6' 3" because it helps my BMI.
STU: It would help your BMI. Okay. 6' 3".
GLENN: No, 6' 2"
STU: And how many pounds?
STU: 226? 226 plus what?
GLENN: Hmmm? No, 226.
STU: That would give you a 29 BMI. Congratulations, you are not obese! Yeah!
GLENN: I'm not obese?
STU: You're only overweight.
GLENN: I'm not obese? The guy who was standing at the mirror brushing my teeth going, I've got to sit down, this is too much work.
STU: (Laughing). No. Well, a lot of
GLENN: Wait a minute. This is great news! Break out the buttercake!
STU: Yeah, you can
GLENN: This is good! I'm not obese! How many pounds can I gain before I am obese?
STU: I'm working on that here.
GLENN: No, hang on. There's a difference between obese and morbidly obese. I've got obese. I've got all obese to pass through.
PAT: Before you have to start worrying about a diet!
GLENN: I'm going, I mean, what am I, just kind of like plump?
STU: My understanding is well, the calculator I'm looking at here is
GLENN: Is it solar powered?
STU: It is not.
GLENN: Save the planet. Do your part. Little steps. They may seem, they may seem so small that you may not even notice, but they all add up in the end. Please only use the solar powered calculators.
STU: I don't know that the official BMI has an obese rating. You can go all the way to 233 and you'll still only be overweight.
PAT: Do mine. 4' 11".
GLENN: Wait, wait, where do I have to get to? Hang on.
PAT: 4' 11" and 438 pounds.
GLENN: Wait. Where do I go, what do I have to be at not overweight?
STU: So if you just want to be normal weight?
GLENN: Normal weight.
STU: Hold on. I'm going to have to do a little, a couple of calculations here.
GLENN: Do what because my normal weight, when I do TV, you know, when I first started doing TV and I cared, I was at 205.
STU: You would still be overweight.
GLENN: You've got to be kidding me.
PAT: 6' 2," 205 is overweight?
STU: 6' 2," 205 is overweight.
PAT: Really? Wow.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? This is how screwed up this thing is? Because at 205 do you remember when I started TV how many times
PAT: You looked great. You looked great.
GLENN: Okay, that's disturbing. But you know how many times people came up to me and said have a sandwich, really, have a sandwich.
STU: Yeah, they were trying to make you feel good. But honestly...
STU: You did actually look like really, I would say healthy.
GLENN: They were I was always at a Subway they said that.
STU: You would have to go, Glenn, at 6' 2" you would have to drop all the this is unbelievable. You would have to drop down to 194 to be at the very upper end of normal weight.
STU: That's insanity. You would look bizarre at 194.
GLENN: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'd have to be at 194 to be what?
STU: At the very upper limits of normal weight. (Laughing).
GLENN: What's the wait. What's the next level down?
STU: If you go to underweight, you'd have to be let's see. I'm just throwing numbers in here to see what I can get here.
GLENN: So the upper weight is 194? So for me to be at normal weight, to be at normal weight, the fattest I could get is 194?
STU: Yes. This calculator
GLENN: This is crazy.
STU: Maybe I'm in the wrong calculator. I'm starting to reconsider this calculator because it says
GLENN: It's electric powered, it works. If it's solar powered, then all of your facts will be wrong.
STU: This is powered by biofuel. So I don't know if it's going to work. But it says that if you were 6' 2," which you are, and weighed 145, you would still qualify as normal weight.
PAT: 6' 2," 145! Come on. There's no way. There's no way.
GLENN: What kind of weird
PAT: I mean, if you are a woman maybe.
GLENN: model are you? If you're a woman? 6' 2" and 145 if you're a woman? What, do they not have bones? But no man could be 6' 2" and 145 and look normal or be normal.
STU: Maybe this is a woman calculator.
GLENN: Who are you to say what normal is? You...
PAT: I'm the guy on the radio.
GLENN: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
PAT: And if it's on the radio, it's so
GLENN: No woman could be 145 pounds and 6' 2" well, no woman could be 6' 2" and normal. Let's just leave it at that. You've got to shave, you've got to I don't know if you take just a little bit of their thighbone out or what you have to remove. They need to be shortened a little bit.
GLENN: But no woman could be 6' 2" and 145 pounds and look healthy. Do you think? They've got to be at least 110.
GLENN: See, this is the kind of joke where my daughter and my wife just look at me with disgust!
STU: Right. And then you go
GLENN: No, but seriously that would be way too skinny.
STU: At 6' 2," 145? Well, you figure
GLENN: For a woman.
STU: You figure the supermodels, though, legitimately are like 6' 1," 110.
GLENN: They are freaks.
PAT: Do you remember we met Elle MacPherson, she towered over I think both of us.
PAT: She was like 6' 2"?
GLENN: I don't know. I kind of blocked that. It was so embarrassing.
PAT: The way she was hitting on me?
GLENN: On me, yeah, I know, it was crazy. No, but she was very tall.
PAT: Very tall.
GLENN: And very thin.
STU: I am looking at the CDC website now and it is confirming that 6' 2," 145 is normal weight.
PAT: Wow, that's amazing.
STU: That does not seem possible. For a woman I would say I agree with you. That's not absurd for a woman, I think.
PAT: No, I don't think it is.
STU: It's definitely thin but it's not
PAT: It would be thin.
STU: But for a dude?
GLENN: How much does your wife weigh?
PAT: My wife?
GLENN: Yeah. He would save he's actually thinking about telling me! That was a test, man! What, are you crazy? Jeez! He was thinking about it. He was like, well, let me think. Don't think! "I don't know, she's beautiful, she's wonderful, she's perfect."
PAT: Because she is. I mean, I'm sure she wouldn't mind. 189.
GLENN: He sounds like Barack Obama. "She's perfect and I'm sure she wouldn't... mind. I... think I'm okay."
PAT: She weighs 206. She looks great.
GLENN: But you have to remember she's 8' 7".
PAT: Yes, yes.
GLENN: Back in a second.