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GLENN: I am proud to announce that the NAACP is giving Van Jones an award. Apparently the most is this true? The most misunderstood man award. I'm trying to help me out here. I'm trying to figure out exactly where he's misunderstood. Is he misunderstood because he's a 9/11 Truther? Is he misunderstood because he's a self avowed communist? Is he misunderstood because he is a guy who defended Mumia Abu Jamal, the cop killer? Let's see. Is he understood because he wants a revolution? I'm trying to figure out how he's misunderstood. How is he misunderstood? He's now going to high schools. He's also going to be teaching at Princeton. He's giving a lecture at Columbia, whew, and he's also going to be speaking with Senator Gillibrand from New York, in New York City where the World Trade Centers came down, interesting enough. I don't know if she knows that. I'd like to hear her viewpoint on the truth of 9/11. We have a letter out to Senator Gillibrand to find out, where does she stand on that? Where does she stand on Marx? Because we know where, we know where Van Jones stands on Marx.
Now, we also have an interesting tie here. It's fascinating to me that, what was it, Stu, Pat, three weeks ago that the NAACP came out and said Martin Luther King was a radical socialist?
STU: Yeah, it was a few weeks ago.
GLENN: Okay. Can we, can we get the actual words from the head of the NAACP where they said if people knew who Martin Luther King was, we wouldn't revere him like we do today. If we would have, if we would have known these things in the past, maybe there wouldn't be a Martin Luther King day?
PAT: Yeah, you want to have that?
GLENN: Do you have that?
STU: We'd love it.
GLENN: Yeah, go ahead.
PAT: Because if you'd like it, I mean, I'm here to please.
STU: That would be fantastic.
BOND: We don't remember the king who was the critic of capitalism who said to Charles Fager when they were in jail together in Selma in 1965 that he thought a modified form of socialism would be the best system for the United States. We don't remember the Martin Luther King who talked ceaselessly about taking care of the masses and not just dealing with the people at the top of the ladder. So we've kind of anesthetized him. We've made him into a different kind of person than he actually was in life, and it may be that that's one reason he's so celebrated today because we celebrate a different kind of man than really existed. But he was a bit more radical. Not terribly, terribly radical but a bit more radical than we make him out to be today.
GLENN: Okay. So he was just a, he was a radical socialist but not terribly, terribly radical. Just a radical socialist. And we may not celebrate him if we but we're celebrating a different man than really existed. Okay, well, what does that tell you about history?
So now a few weeks ago he comes out and he says this about Martin Luther King. Now we have a, not a terribly, terribly radical socialist. We have a radical communist that is the most misunderstood man. Now, are we celebrating Van Jones or the a different man than Van Jones really is? This guy has never left the public sphere. Why? Because the president never came out against him. He never came out against him. He just went into the shadows. It didn't didn't the NAACP just have Jeremiah Wright speak as well? How is the NAACP yeah, they did. Who was it that just gave remember Jeremiah Wright, it was about six months ago, Jeremiah Wright was given an award. I think it was the NAACP. Can you look that up? Recently. And I remember thinking, Jeremiah Wright, what? How is that happening? Do you have it, Stu?
STU: Yeah, just want to I don't know the, I don't know the source here. Okay, let's see.
GLENN: No, you have it. I remember seeing it on TV. I remember. Just tell me what the organization was.
STU: Maryland chapter of NAACP drawing criticism for selecting Obama's former pastor to speak at an awards dinner.
GLENN: Yeah, that's what it was. And remember they were a lot of the people from the administration, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of people from the administration were in there going, "Hey, he's a great guy, he's a great guy!" Well, now wait a minute. We either say it's okay to believe what Jeremiah Wright and Van Jones believe as a nation, we either embrace it or we don't. But if the NAACP is embracing things that America doesn't embrace, how can we call the NAACP a mainstream organization? I mean, I think that's a fair question, isn't it? If they're embracing radical Marxism through Van Jones not only Marxism, communism if they are embracing a guy and saying he's misunderstood and he is embracing Mumia Abu Jamal, a cop killer, if they are embracing a guy who says there should be a radical youth uprising, a revolution, if they're embracing a guy who says the chickens are coming home to roost and GD, America, and that America has been responsible for intentionally killing black people as a government, that America is an evil place and that, Jeremiah Wright, that Marx is right, that capitalism is bad, well, what does that make the NAACP? Does that make them a mainstream organization?
STU: As mainstream as, you know, Sean Penn? You know, it sounds
GLENN: Sean Penn's not mainstream.
STU: I know. That's what I'm saying.
GLENN: Exactly right.
STU: It seems like it's sore of a view that's
GLENN: You can be Danny Glover.
STU: Right. It's that sort
GLENN: You can be Michael Moore.
STU: Right. It's that strain of thought. It doesn't seem though I don't know if their position their position is that he's misunderstood and that he was smeared and attacked by people like you.
GLENN: The NAACP came to Fox News. The only correction that I have had to issue is for the NAACP and it was this: That I said he was a felon. He was not a felon. He went to jail. He was arrested.
GLENN: Okay? He was not a felon. That is the only correction that I have had to make in the last year because somebody came. You know, we put the phone in. The phone came really from a discussion with the White House, NAACP was happening around the same time. We said, well, what are the complaints? What did we say? One, in one year, one thing and that was that I said that he was a felon. He wasn't.
STU: And again you didn't say that all the time. You had said that on one occasion and the other times you said it correctly. But it's important to correct things like that.
GLENN: Absolutely, and I have no problem doing that. I said if I'm wrong, I have no problem correcting it. But that was the how was he smeared? How was he smeared? And by saying this, are they not smearing me or anybody else? I mean, I'm the guy who's known for Van Jones. So is the NAACP smearing me? Because I corrected the only mistake that I made.
STU: Yeah. I mean, like there's an article here about the it's the NAACP image award, which is like essentially their highest honor as far as I understand it. And this is an article from CNN about it. Now, CNN not necessarily known as a rightwing organization, also known as an organization that's currently in competition with you. But they go through and list all the evidence that we talked about on the air as if it's fact. So I mean, if they want a correction from us, there's a vicious smear campaign going on from CNN on Van Jones.
GLENN: What else do they have on, from CNN?
STU: They talk about the 9/11 Truther stuff, they talk about the East Bay Express article talking about how he said he was a communist, you know, and then it talks about, well, Van Jones says, quote, if I have offended anyone with the statements I've made in the past, I apologize. Well, I don't know. That's great.
GLENN: You are not you didn't offend me. You didn't offend me. I don't care. I don't care. Are you a communist? You've said yes. Have you changed? That's like Barack Obama. He was a Marxist. He's claimed he was a Marxist. He hung out with Marxists. He's still hanging out with Marxists. But do you notice he never says, "I'm not a Marxist and here's why." He's never said, "yes, I was a Marxist when I was a radical when I was a kid, but I changed, I figured it out, here's where my moment came." Never. Never. He's never defended capitalism. He's never said, "Look, I'm a strong capitalist, I believe in the free market system because I was a Marxist when I was a kid, we all were doing stupid things not all of us, well, some of us didn't even go to college. But, you know, when we were college age, you do stupid things, you try different things out. That's the way you grow. You challenge yourself. Well, I fell into Marxism. Boy was I stupid. Here's why." Never. Never. "Hey, I hired a communist, boy, was I stupid, here's why." Never. "I hired a revolutionary, I hired people that don't believe in the free market system. I put as my manufacturing czar a guy who says the free market system is dead! Boy was I stupid and here's why." No. No.
We need to get away from revolutionaries because they're mainstreaming revolutionaries. That's what's happening here. We're mainstreaming Karl Marx. By Van Jones speaking at your kids' high school, they're mainstreaming it. "See, look, you can be a Marxist revolutionary, you can be a communist and you can be a great guy." Look at how many awards he's getting.
Where is your award for standing up against Van Jones? Where is your award for standing up for freedom and democracy? Where is it? No, no, no. No, they will point to how hateful those groups are that would give anything like that. He's teaching now, he's going to be teaching at Princeton. Princeton I respect because they have tenured professors that are conservatives. They're at least trying. I have no problem with you putting Peter Singer on campus as long as you have somebody stand up against Peter Singer with the same kind of clout and power on campus. How about Van Jones? Hey, Princeton, you going to have him teach classes? Hire me. I want the counterpoint. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it. Van Jones would have a class and no one would throw a chair at him. I would have a class and they would throw chairs at me. Well, they would only throw chairs at me because I would also be grading their papers. M is for Marxist.