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GLENN: We were just talking about Stupak on the air. He is not going to run for reelection because, you know, he doesn't have a chance of winning. You can't have such a staunch, "I'm going to be the guy and I will not compromise my values on abortion" and then, "Oh, well, he promised me that it would... no, he's..." I mean, come on.
PAT: And you know full well an executive order, when everybody in this country who knows anything about the process knows that an executive order does not trump law.
GLENN: Okay. So Stu said there's no way this guy actually believed these things because here's the party platform of the DNC.
STU: The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe versus Wade in a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion regardless of ability to pay. So I mean, that's public funding. I mean, they are saying they are going to get it either way. And we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right. Even weakening it is against their platform. And they are saying I mean, that is pretty clear language there of the government will help you pay.
GLENN: We could go to the RNC platform and I could find things that vehemently disagree with somebody like Ron Paul, okay?
GLENN: Ron Paul would tell you it's better to be in the system and infect the system or affect the system than it is third party.
STU: Right. I just feel like when you're at a point like it's one thing, there's a lot of policies that I agree with that I vehemently disagree with but when you are talking about like an abortion is murder type belief, that is a core belief if you're murdering children.
GLENN: Right. But if you agreed with, if you agreed with their stance on, hey, let's not, you know, let's not question anybody on an airplane, you know, and all the other things the Democrats stand for, you know, let's get rid of all nuclear weapons, wouldn't it be better, if that was your thing, wouldn't it be better to say, you know what, I'm going to get in there and I'm going to be a force of change inside that party.
STU: I'm sure this would be his argument but the bottom line is his actions don't hold that out. I mean, you know, he folded on this belief. This belief was not a core belief and I think that the leading indication of that is that he joined this party in the first place. That's just an indication. It's not I think it's not impossible to say, you know what, I don't want kids to cross state lines to get abortions, or whatever, one of these sort of beliefs. And you want to maybe restrict it a little bit in certain areas. But when it's the it's a core to your being that abortion is murder and you're killing babies, I can't see how you'd be part of that party.
PAT: And one of the most amazing things about this is that Bart Stupak went in one week, seven days. The weekend he was still holding out and they were getting he was getting all kinds of pressure and he said his family was getting threats from the left. They couldn't answer the phone, they were being harassed, it was awful for him. Remember that? It was, his life was a living hell because of the left, because of his stand on abortion.
PAT: And then he made the statement that you can't it's gotten to the point and it's a sad state of affairs when it's gotten to the point where you cannot be pro life in the Democratic Party. He said I'm not going to change parties but that's the fact. You can't be pro life in this party anymore.
GLENN: Well, there's your sign. There's your sign.
PAT: He went from that to caving.
GLENN: When he says I'm not going to change parties, that's your sign.
GLENN: Because once you realize you cannot make a difference in that party and that party is dead set against, is saying we're for more killing the babies, you've got to get out of there.
PAT: And that's a make or break issue for you? Yeah. Yeah.
GLENN: Not just a for instance, not a, "Hey, I really believe in border security." I'm trying to think of something that's not a moral issue. But this one, this one's a God issue.
GLENN: We're talking murder. We're talking murder. If you believe it like Bart Stupak says he believes it, you can't I mean, let's say this. Let's say this. If you were part of a party that said, you know what, all tea partygoers are dangerous, we have to round them up and kill their children, you
GLENN: I mean, you can say I agree with them on a whole bunch of other things.
STU: But I'm not joining that party.
GLENN: Unless I thought, okay, I'm going to go in and I'm going to try to change that because I am staunchly against that, so I'm going to try to infect that system and stop it from the inside. But once you realize they're not going to stop doing that, you've got to get out of there. For your soul sake.
STU: Right. And I mean, like, look. Like Ben Steyn is an example. Like he is an economist who we agree with on a lot of stuff. But he said on the air with us that he would like to see the, you know, the taxes for rich people be hiked a little bit. He thinks they are not quite enough. Now, I completely disagree with him, but it's a policy difference and he's a Republican and he can certainly exist as a Republican.
GLENN: It's not a sole issue.
STU: It's not a soul I shall.
STU: When you talk about, he says over and over again protecting the life of the unborn. Think of the statement. That is a core belief of keeping a child alive.
GLENN: It's not even waterboarding. It's not even waterboarding. Waterboarding is torture and if you believe that waterboarding is torture and we shouldn't be doing it, well, then what do you you know, what
GLENN: But it's not even, it's not even that. It's not even that. This is murder. Cold blooded killing.
STU: Like Ron Paul is completely opposed to wars but it's not in the Republican platform to go to war. You know what I mean? They believe in certain wars, they don't believe in others. And they go to
GLENN: It's a misinterpretation of him. He does believe in going to war. But declare the war.
STU: I don't think I got that from him.
PAT: Only when we, I think pretty much when we've been directly attacked, if directly attacked, get a declaration from congress, then go to war.
GLENN: Yeah, his version of war is almost the same. He will agree to use the nukes when Obama does.
PAT: Yeah. And his position would be, his position would be if we just get out of the Middle East, we wouldn't ever have to.
GLENN: And that's not
PAT: That's just not reasonable.
STU: He vehemently disagrees with the Republicans' view on foreign policy but it's not like this is it's like in the Republican Party their platform was we're going to go to war and kill as many people as possible. I mean, we want everyone to have the right to bomb any country for no reason. I mean, that's if you believe abortion is murder, that's essentially the policy.
GLENN: Right. And you couldn't be a part of that.
GLENN: So gee, we're going to miss you, Stupak, we really, really are. Here's our number, 888 727 BECK, 888 727 BECK.