GLENN: Now listen to this from San Diego university, what is it, University of California San Diego with David Horowitz. Audio we played for you a couple of days ago.
VOICE: My name is Jimena Imad Musa Ahmal Bahiri (ph) and I'm a student here at UCSD. I was reading your literature. I found that much more interesting than the talk. And I found some interesting things about the MSA, which is an organization that's very active on campus and it is hosting our annual Hitler Youth Week. You should come out to those events.
PAT: Did you catch that, by the way, the first time around? That kind of slipped past me. They are hosting their annual Hitler Youth Week. The MSA, the Muslim student association.
GLENN: I just took that as a — I just took that as a slam and making somebody who is —
PAT: I did, too, but then I looked at his website, at David Horowitz's, and he's got a bunch of people in Muslim garb who are parading around the campus with God Bless Hitler on a sign and so —
GLENN: Hang on, hang on. Don't get sidetracked here, yeah. So remember what we were doing with Eric Holder. Now listen to the responses here.
VOICE: If you could clarify the connection between the MSA and jihad terrorist networks.
HOROWITZ: Will you condemn Hamas here and now?
VOICE: I'm sorry. What?
HOROWITZ: Will you condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, genocidal organization?
VOICE: Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?
HOROWITZ: So you won't? I actually have had this experience many times. You didn't read the pamphlet because the pamphlet gives chapter and verse. The main connection is that the MSA is part of the Muslim Brotherhood Network as revealed in the documents.
VOICE: I don't think you understood what I meant by that. I meant if I say something, I'm sure that I will be arrested for reasons of Homeland Security. So if you could please just answer my question.
HOROWITZ: If you condemn Hamas Homeland Security will arrest you?
VOICE: If I support Hamas. Because your question forces me to condemn Hamas. If I support Hamas I look really bad.
HOROWITZ: Well, if you don't condemn Hamas obviously you support it. Case closed.
HOROWITZ: I have had this experience — I give you, I had this experience at UC Santa Barbara where there were —
GLENN: Stop for a second. Stop for a second. Do you understand what he just said to her? If you don't condemn, you support. Now, that's the only reason. She just admitted that in so many — you are asking me to condemn them. Well, yeah, you can condemn Hamas. Now, maybe there's five good people in Hamas that just want world peace. But generally with Hamas no, they don't want world peace. So you could say, well, there are a few good people in there but, yes, Hamas is an organization that was set up for the destruction of Israel. Now listen to what he says.
HOROWITZ: Members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in a rows there and throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hezbollah and Hamas and none of them would. And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask questions and I said, you know, before you start, will you condemn Hezbollah. And he said, well, that question is too complicated for a yes/no answer. So I said, okay, I'll put it to you this way. I'm a Jew. The head of Hezbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn't have to hunt us down globally. For it or against it?
VOICE: For it.
HOROWITZ: Thank you.
HOROWITZ: Thank you for coming and showing everybody what's here.
GLENN: It's time people answer the damn questions. It's time they answer the questions. It's time that they stop telling us that, well, I wasn't there, I wasn't listening, I wasn't listening in church. Twenty years you didn't listen. He was over at your house; you didn't listen. Twenty years, "I wasn't listening."
Joel Rogers: "I don't know." William Ayers: "I didn't, I have no... uh uh." "Well, that was youthful." It was — hmmm? Will you deny it? "No, I don't think we did enough, but there's other..." uh huh. Van Jones: "Well, I didn't know I was signing that. I was duped." You were duped? You were duped? But you're smart enough to be clear on global warming. You'll never be duped on that, but you were duped by 9/11 Truthers? It's time we drop the normalcy bias. It is time. It is time we face our fears. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. We want to be normal. We want to go back to our old life. We don't want to believe that there are those in our country that want to kill us. But by denying that they exist does not make them go away!