GLENN: Coast to coast and you can call in live from Seattle to Los Angeles to Miami, Florida to Bangor, Maine and we now go to Jeff who is listening to us in Philadelphia at WPHD at 888-727-BECK. Hi, Jeff.
CALLER: Hi, Glenn, how are you?
GLENN: Very good.
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CALLER: You said something about global warming, fascism and a whole lot of stuff which I think you're kind of backward on, but so you don't believe in the whole global warming thing?
GLENN: Is this your first day with the show, Jeff?
CALLER: Never even listened to you before. Saw you on TV.
GLENN: I just want to recommend that you should never call in on the first day you listen because you are so uninformed, you're going to sound like an idiot.
CALLER: Thank you very much. Do we continue or is that the end?
GLENN: Oh, we can continue if you would like to. If you would like to come on as really uninformed and express your opinion on my opinion, we can do that. But I just want to warn you you're going to look like an idiot.
CALLER: That's fine. I'm pretty experienced with talk radio even though I haven't called in a year. Even lost my job partially due to the whole global warming issue.
GLENN: Did you really?
CALLER: Believe it or not.
GLENN: What happened? Were you making incandescent light bulbs at a factory?
CALLER: Well, it's kind of like differentiated. Sometimes you see too much going on at a major nonprofit and they kind of twist things and long story, I won't go into that, but --
GLENN: No, no, wait, wait. Hang on just a second. You were working for a nonprofit?
CALLER: I'd rather not talk about that because --
GLENN: Hang on. You don't have to give me the details.
CALLER: I've been indirectly threatened not to talk about it. So getting back to --
GLENN: I'm not asking you for any details. I want to know. You were working for a nonprofit and you caught them doing something wrong?
CALLER: I would rather just talk about --
GLENN: Well, you were the one that brought it up. Go ahead.
CALLER: Global warming or fascism. Or the PATRIOT Act? You even mentioned that. I mean, I'm certain you kind of try to tell your audience the truth. Now, when we look at who wrote the PATRIOT Act initially and the year it was written in, we are talking about Admirable Poindexter, a convicted common who was writing it in 1985 along with total information awareness. Now, that's a correct statement, correct, Mr. Beck?
GLENN: I don't know. You're an expert on this. Go ahead.
CALLER: Well, tell your audience. I'm sure you like to tell the truth, but that is the truth.
GLENN: We were talking about global warming and I was talking about the PATRIOT Act and said that I don't have a problem with the PATRIOT Act because it has a Sunset. If it didn't have a Sunset, I would have a real problem with the PATRIOT Act. I mean, I have a real problem -- there are times, Jeff, as you know because you are seemingly a scholar here on history. So you know. There are times that your rights as a society, they ebb and flow. They come -- they have a little give depending on what's going on in the world. I'm sure one of your favorite Presidents was FDR. So you know that he gobbled up a lot of things during the second world war and then he released them afterwards, or they were released afterwards. There is an ebb and flow. As long as there is a Sunset, as long as that power is never given to the Government and left out of the hands of the people, as long as it is loaned to the Government and it has a Sunset on it, I don't necessarily have a problem with it when you're in times of strife just like -- and you would know this about Abraham Lincoln when he was ridiculed for getting rid of habeas corpus, but that was something that he felt needed to be done at the time and then came back after the Civil War.
CALLER: Habeas corpus, the thing that the Bush administration got rid of, the people who are going to protect your freedoms, right?
GLENN: Again, Jeff, we could argue about this all day.
CALLER: Again you don't want to argue because you are basically a chicken. You are part of that right wing who hangs on the radio and propagandizes the whole country.
GLENN: See, Jeff, all of to do is name-call. I just explained my point of view. I just explained my point of view. My point of view is valid. But now you have to now name-call, which is a way that the Progressives from the early 20th century did. That is part of the fascist way of life. When you can't argue something and you don't want to accept somebody else's point of view as being valid, then the next thing you do is you name-call. You ridicule them, you make them into some sort of a bad guy by pinning certain things on them. That is the way the Progressives handle it. You're either too stupid or you're in on it.
CALLER: You want to talk about global warming then?
GLENN: Because you just lost the last argument, sure, go ahead.
CALLER: You're overtalking me like most of you fellas do. You know, if you want to talk about fascism, why don't you talk about Brown Brothers Harriman and Union Bank and the Bush family history going back to World War II, or are you too --
GLENN: That's crazy.
CALLER: Are you too chicken to talk about it?
GLENN: I know, I'm too chicken.
CALLER: Let's talk about global warming.
GLENN: Let's do it, Jeff.
CALLER: Okay. I told you I partially lost my job due to that issue and also --
GLENN: No, you didn't, but you brought up you lost your job now but you can't get into specifics twice.
CALLER: Well, that might make national news. I had a major God experience last year.
GLENN: A major -- you believe in God?
CALLER: Oh, absolutely.
CALLER: Even though my experience was ripped from me, but in any case --
GLENN: How was it ripped from you?
CALLER: Well, it kind of hurts for me to talk about.
GLENN: I know it does. I'm here to hold your hand through it.
CALLER: Well, you don't need to hold my hand. But with regard to global warming, I guess you know that the acidification of our oceans are rising to the point where our coral reefs are dying off.
GLENN: Of course, the acidification of our oceans, who doesn't.
CALLER: Right. And you also know that what they call positive feedback loops are encroaching now upon what are called negative feedback loops.
GLENN: I hate when that happens.
CALLER: Are you going to interrupt this?
GLENN: No, I'm with you.
CALLER: Do you know that in your own body what they call homeostasis equilibrium.
GLENN: Yes. Say it, finally somebody will say it.
CALLER: Also works within the environment, and negative feedback loops are actually the good thing. That's how things balance themselves out.
CALLER: When you have positive feedback -- I hope you are listening.
GLENN: Oh, I'm listening. When you have positive feedback you said.
CALLER: Like the melting down of your ice caps, the loss of Keystone species and indicator species --
GLENN: Damn it.
CALLER: The die-off of coral reefs.
CALLER: Did you know you can have a log rhythmic exponential spiral on a moment's notice, actually no notice.
GLENN: Hang on just a second. I'm having one of those spirals, Glenn.
CALLER: Dennis bye-bye, Glenn, Dennis bye-bye. Do you understand that? Did you ever read the book "The Weather Makers"?
GLENN: Have you ever read Loyal Ponte's book "The Cooling"?
CALLER: Glenn, let me take you on a different --
GLENN: Or is it Lowell Ponte?
CALLER: You know, you are talking about the --
GLENN: Hang on, have you ever read that, the cooling? Why the next ice age has already started and we need to know if we can survive it.
CALLER: That's because, Glenn, when you have --
GLENN: Don't get angry. I need to have you have another God experience.
CALLER: Glenn, when you have global warming, Glenn, you know your planet can actually tilt 5 degrees on the left field plain and you can --
GLENN: I'm just looking at the whole book here on us surviving the coming global ice age.
CALLER: You can have an ice age when you have global warming. You do know that, don't you?
GLENN: Yeah, the global ice age with global warming. So here's the point, Jeff. Here's the point. If you listened to this program before, you would know that I don't disagree with global warming. I think that the planet is changing. I believe the only thing constant in life is change. It is changing just like it has before when we -- I'm trying to find the giant SUVs that the dinosaurs drove around in, but I'm sure we'll find them at some point. What my problem with global warming is, Jeff, is that the science is not settled on how to solve it. The science on what we can do, that's where the fascism comes in. That's where the Government telling the people in California, "I'm going to control the temperature in your house with radio frequency. I'm sorry. Today it can be 68 degrees in your house. Tomorrow it can be 72 degrees. Today, I'm sorry, it can only be 55. Maybe tomorrow it can be 80." But the Government decides what they're going to do in my house. That, sir, is what I'm talking about fascism.
CALLER: Can I offer you some advice? You see the economy, you see the price of gold going up through the roof, you see that on TV right now?
CALLER: As the global economy crashes, if you really want to, like, keep people working -- because it's funny that you even would mention the old Soviet Union.
GLENN: Give me the job tip.
CALLER: We actually agree on one thing.
GLENN: Give me the job tip.
CALLER: You see, real wealth is in the ground and in the mind and what you can do with what you have in your brain, Glenn, and what you have in the ground. That's real wealth.
GLENN: Thank you very much. That is advice that I'm going to live by every single day. Thanks so much, Jeff.
GLENN: I can't imagine why that guy lost his job. Can you imagine working with that guy? By the way, everybody, please, please do yourself a favor. Watch the national news because I feel there's a big story coming in. Jeff's going to be involved in it.