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GLENN: Andrew Breitbart is here. We were talking off the air about a couple of things. There are just so many things that just don't make sense, but the world is moving so fast that we don't have time to cover all of them, and one of the things that has bothered from the beginning, one of the first moves the president did was on the census, and he started screwing with the census from day one.
BREITBART: We have in studio with us the person who's responsible for delinking the census from ACORN and that's James O'Keefe who took down ACORN. I think he's an American hero. He would have been on the cover of Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair.
BREITBART: He would have had a reality show in which his — James O'Keefe is inspired not to just do James O'Keefe undercover videos. It's to inspire other young people, old people, too, why not, to go undercover and to report the things that the mainstream media won't report and he has done it. While he was in peril in Louisiana for basically doing what Borad does, wearing an outfit or going there in order to get the story. That's what he pleaded guilty to that misdemeanor for doing what he blatantly and admittedly does.
BREITBART: Trying to point out that Mary Landrieu was not answering her phones and lying about it. Anyway, while he was in his legal peril, he took a job at the census with another friend, a guy by the name of Shawn who's joined us here, and I just want to hand it over to them to talk about what they did, and I think it's hysterically funny in a very, very sad way because this is our country, this is our government, and there is no oversight within our government over how our money is spent and the mainstream media laughs and mocks us for pointing this out.
GLENN: What happened, James?
JAMES: I got a job with the census bureau while I was on pretrial release in New Jersey and I found that the census supervisors were systematically encouraging me to falsify information on my timesheets and typically what happens is you are given four to five days of training. Over the course of these four to five days we left at 3:00, 3:30 p.m. They told us with he needed an hour to travel to and from work, they gave us 70 minute lunch breaks. So as much as 20 to 30% of my time I didn't even work. And the same thing happened to before my colleagues. He also got a job at the census bureau. His name is Shawn. And they were just paying us for work we didn't do.
GLENN: One was in — James was in New Jersey and Shawn was down in Louisiana. So those are many states away and they found the exact same thing. We're talking about 600 —
GLENN: Shawn on the phone?
BREITBART: 600,000 temporary jobs.
GLENN: Hey, Shawn, how are you?
CALLER: How's it going, Glenn, glad to be on your show.
GLENN: Thank you. What happened in Louisiana?
CALLER: Pretty much the same thing as with James. I found out that there was a corrosive really element to the government when it comes to the taxpayers' money, that they are just willing to be frivolous with it, you know, being given — being paid for hours that I did not work and being given mileage that I did not drive and told not to worry about it. And just how systemic the problem is. And this is the taxpayer money that they are continually messing with in a time where people are being asked to tighten their belts, here they are, you know, wasting our money and we are sick and tired of it.
GLENN: How much money — because it was 600,000 jobs. We can just take these two experiences. Have you done this yet, Andrew?
BREITBART: I —
GLENN: How much money are we talking about?
JAMES: I did do that. If one hour is wasted at let's say $18.25 an hour which is sort of a standard rate give or take, you are talking about $10,950,000 a day. That's just one hour wasted. And they account for automatically in the policy half an hour to get to Bork. And all census employees live within five minutes of the census because it's regional. It's per town. So why would they give an hour to travel to and from work when you live five minutes away? And that's $10 million a day. That's a lot of money.
GLENN: Go ahead, Andrew.
BREITBART: Well, the interesting thing about this and I think it's a different story line than ACORN and everybody is saying, what do you expect, to take ACORN, the census down with these two videos? No, this is the beginning of the investigation into the census. This video is going to open people's eyes up and people are sending in thousands of e mails to us saying this is what we're experiencing with the census. I'm sure you are getting the same e mails. We have two cases of people who came to me proactively even before James did this who have shown me some evidence that census workers, one at a McDonald's and another at a Dunkin' Donuts, were just off in a corner, the enumerators were, actually filling out arbitrarily census forms. And so there is so —
GLENN: And why not? We've hired, we've hired criminals in some cases to do this.
BREITBART: Well, Shawn can talk to you about what one of the supervisors said regarding the type of people that they are hiring and —
GLENN: Shawn, what do they say?
CALLER: Well, I did talk to, during the fingerprinting portion of the training, one of the supervisors. I brought what I thought seen might have been a discrepancy to him and he said, you know what, don't worry about it, it's not a big deal. There's so many people going through the system that, you know, unless you have a felony or major felony or unless you come back as Jack the Ripper, you'll be fine. And I find that ironic being that there are actual rapists out there that are, you know, taking advantage of people under the guise of census workers and people being detected as predators, you know, when they go to the door of the people that are being — that are trusting the government to allow these people to come and do the work that is mandated by the Constitution. I just find that really, really appalling.
GLENN: Did you see, Andrew — maybe you can comment on this story — that there was — and I didn't have a chance to really even read the whole thing. There was an argument that census workers could enter your empty apartment if you weren't there, with your landlord? Did you see that story?
GLENN: Yeah. I mean, the things that are — you saw it, Pat?
GLENN: Do you remember? What was the story?
PAT: Yeah, it was just that. If you're not there at your apartment, the census workers can get your landlord to let them in. And it doesn't matter whether you are there or not. They are coming in.
GLENN: Just let you into the house.
GLENN: James —
PAT: Just look around, search your house.
GLENN: Did you hear anything like that while you were there? Was there anything else besides the money? Were there things that you sought, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not right?
JAMES: Yeah. I mean, I wanted to be very careful. The census did take privacy in terms of sharing information on the forms with other people very seriously. I resigned prior to doing any data collection because I did not want to not even go close to breaking any laws doing this investigation but mostly what I found was just waste, frivolousness, you know, whatever, signing timesheets at 9:00 in the morning. But I didn't get to that point, no.
GLENN: Andrew, where do you go next?
BREITBART: Well, James has another major investigation that he's done that goes — it's a much bigger story than the census story. What we're trying to do is to inspire the nation to become investigative journalists. If George Stephanopoulos —
GLENN: We're on the same page, Andrew.
BREITBART: If George Stephanopoulos sandbagged us yesterday, they were — they set up, ABC News flew us in to launch the census stories, and George Stephanopoulos said, hey, I want to interview these guys. And the entire thing became about James O'Keefe racist, James O'Keefe racist, James O'Keefe criminal, James O'Keefe criminal and all these things have been debunked, the racism stuff debunked. He just went straight from the Media Matters/Huffington Post narrative. He's probably getting paid by the SEIU.
GLENN: You know better than I do. Give me Stephanopoulos' connections to the White House. Give me his —
BREITBART: More than that, here's — if you want to talk about how stinking the press is, this is a guy who when Gary Aldrich was put on this week, the number one New York Times best seller for Unlimited Access in 1994, who is the one that strong armed ABC, "If you put this guy on, we will remove access to the White House." George Stephanopoulos. That's not the only thing. This guy used his influence to intimidate people when he was in the political process. How does ABC reward him? By giving him the anchor seat.
GLENN: I mean, to me it's not surprising. This is the way it works and people like Andrew Breitbart and James O'Keefe can't get a fair shake. The news is splitting, and Andrew is on the right path here. You as an American citizen, you must be the one that does your own homework and watch for these things and get them to get these stories and these tips to people like me and Andrew Breitbart because we will expose it while we have the opportunity. Andrew, James, best of luck. Thanks.
JAMES: Thank you.