GLENN: You know what? This was amazing. Listen to this. This is Senator Jon Kyl from Arizona. He's talking about a meeting that he had with President Obama about the border. Listen to this.
KYL: I met with the president in the Oval Office, just the two of us. I kicked the rest of the people out. I asked them if they would leave. Sorry. (Laughter). And here's what the president said. The problem is, he said, if we secure the border, then you‑all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform. In other words, they are pulling it ‑‑
PAT: There it is.
KYL: They don't want to secure the border unless and until it is combined with comprehensive immigration reform.
PAT: People were truly stunned. I don't think that surprised me at all.
GLENN: I don't think I've ever heard a real gasp like that before. That's like a movie gasp.
PAT: Tthe people swallowed their tongues I think at that meeting.
STU: I was listening for the gasp. I didn't know what —
GLENN: Hang on just a second. You know what that is? That's the scene from Frosty the Snowman. Do you remember when he comes alive and all the kids are like, ah, Frosty?
STU: I'm looking up Frosty the Snowman on Amazon.
PAT: Check Frosty and see where we are on Amazon right now.
GLENN: It's not the time of the year. I'm not recommending anything
STU: No, no, you did. You already did it.
PAT: You already did it.
STU: Can't get out of it now.
PAT: Too late. The Beck Bump or the Stu Stampede.
STU: Stampede, I love it.
GLENN: I wholly endorse your buying of...
PAT: All right. So where is Frosty right now? Frosty the Snowman.
STU: I'm looking it up.
GLENN: No, I don't really care where Frosty the Snowman — it was a quick reference.
STU: It didn't seem like it. It is number 4,870.
PAT: Okay. If that doesn't move, the Beck Bump is over and Media Matters runs that as their lead story: Beck Bump ends; Frosty doesn't move.
GLENN: They will write a whole story about how I just believe that Frosty, because he's white, is the story of America.
PAT: Uh‑huh, uh‑huh.
GLENN: All right. —
PAT: Anyway, the Jon Kyl thing, is anybody surprised?
GLENN: I'm not.
PAT: I'm not shocked at all he said that.
STU: What is it again? What exactly happened? Because I was listening for the gasp and I wasn't actually paying attention to what he was saying.
GLENN: Play it again.
KYL: I met with the president in the Oval Office, just the two of us. I kicked the rest of the people out.
GLENN: Okay, he's met with the president.
KYL: I asked them if they would leave.
GLENN: Just the two of them.
KYL: Here's what the president said. The problem is, he said, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform.
PAT: Okay. Did you get that? So they are not going to secure the border because then you may not vote for comprehensive immigration reform because the border's already secure. Well, wait a minute. Close the border and then we'll worry about dealing with all the rest of the madness and that's what America has always wanted. But you know what? I mean, they gasp. George Bush was doing the exact same thing. This is exactly the Bush policy, too, the Bush doctrine on this. It's the same thing.
GLENN: Excuse me? Excuse me?
PAT: Bush, Clinton, H. W., probably back to Reagan.
GLENN: Keep going?
PAT: All right. Let's try Carter, let's go to Ford and Nixon.
GLENN: You can go all the way back. You can also go across.
GLENN: You can go to John McCain. How about Senator Kyl? Where has he been — where has he stood on this?
PAT: Yeah, I —
GLENN: You don't know, do you?
PAT: I mean, he's been strong —
GLENN: Frosty the Snowman would know.
PAT: He's been strong at times but he's — I remember having some problems four years ago with Kyl but I don't remember what they are now. He may have supported the comprehensive immigration reform. We should look into that.
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