Dr. Richard L. Rubinstein, Yale fellow, "Distinguished Professor of the Year", and Harvard Phd.
GLENN: We want to take you back to the Yale professor. This is the — what do they call it, the distinguished professor of the year
GLENN: Cub Scout of the month, or I don't know what he was, but a distinguished professor at Yale. He was delivering a lecture and then pulled off to the side and asked, hey, can we have a conversation about that one again?
PAT: He said some interesting things about Obama. Would you mind expanding on that a little bit?
GLENN: Now, I'm sure this man is going to be discredited by the end of the day.
PAT: He is clearly senile.
GLENN: He is so old. How old does he look? He looks like 60.
PAT: I don't know. He's probably 173, 174, early 170s.
GLENN: Yeah, he is a very young looking 174. Distinguished professor at Yale. Here's what he said about Barack Obama.
RUBENSTEIN: Is really a revolutionary. That doesn't mean he's looking to stir up violent trouble but I believe he is trying to transform both the American political system and economic system and America's relationship to the world. I also believe that he has decided that America must make its peace with Iran. I believe that he is a man who is highly intelligent, knows what he's doing and in spite of the fact that he has attracted liberal Jewish supporters, some with great wealth. His intention is to correct the historical mistake of the creation of the state of Israel.
GLENN: That's kind of a big deal.
RUBENSTEIN: Given Obama's background, the fact that his family was, on his father's side was Muslim, that his sister is a Muslim, that his half brother is a Muslim, there is no doubt that he heard a great deal about Islam and Israel from them before he took office and though he was not candid about it at first, he has by his decisions and his symbolic actions made it clear where his sympathies are.
GLENN: Okay, stop for a second. That's an awful lot to digest here. From a distinguished professor at Yale who will soon be discredited as a crackpot, he has made his intentions clear, which I think are clear! I think any human, any thinking human being can see, agree or disagree, can see where this man stands. They know. He does not stand with Israel. He does not stand with our traditional allies. He is on a different side. Now, that side could be right, could be wrong. That's for you to decide. But it's not the traditional, "Hey, this is our traditional enemy and this is our traditional friend. It's not. The guy can't find any reason to sit down and meet with the president of BP, the CEO of BP. They have nothing to talk about. Quote: Guys like that are just going to tell you what you want to hear. But he'll meet with Ahmadinejad with no conditions. I mean, how's it working out, really, seriously, how's it working out with North Korea? North Korea torpedoes a ship and sinks it. We do nothing. We do nothing. Israel tries to stop a ship from approaching a secure area. Egypt says don't approach. Egypt says you can land at one of our ports, but you are not to go into the Gaza Strip. Land at one of our ports and we will search you. No. So it's not just Israel. It's Egypt as well. That's not reported. And what happens? For the first time the United States comes against Israel. I'm not claiming that Israel is right on everything, although I do believe they are the, they are the victims in this situation, although I'm not one looking for victims. I mean, Israel's a big — you know, they are big boy and big girl. They can take care of themselves. But let's at least stand on the side of our friends, the ones we have more in common with. But now here's somebody in an academic level that is saying he's making himself clear. But he goes even further. Listen.
RUBENSTEIN: — doubt that he would not be unhappy to see the destruction of the State of Israel, as long as he can say that my hands have not shed this blood, which is a phrase from the Bible.
RUBENSTEIN: In addition to that, he has a hostility towards Western Europe, especially to England as characterized by the symbolic action of returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the English, one of his first acts.
RUBENSTEIN: And he has made some interesting symbolic moves with, for example, bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia since King Abdullah is the keeper of the two holiest shrines of Islam, Mecca and Medina, one wonders why he did this.
GLENN: Well, but you have to also bow to Pam Iorio, the mayor of Tampa.
PAT: Yeah, that's just weird.
GLENN: He's got a bowing issue. He just has a bowing issue. He has an issue with flies that land on his face and he has a bowing issue. I don't know, I don't know what either one of them mean.
PAT: It's interesting — you know, he talks about the relationship with England which I think has really been compromised by this president. And he uses the same example that you've brought up many times and that's, we packed up the bust of Churchill that was given to us after 9/11 and sent it right back to them even though they said, no, that was a gift.
GLENN: Is there any — I mean, let's be honest here. Stu, open up the control room mics. Let's brainstorm here for a second. Tell me an honest reason why you would do that to a friend.
PAT: Clashes with the decor.
PAT: Clashes with the decor.
GLENN: No, you move it into another room.
PAT: Did you see what he replaced it with? He replaced it with a, I think a magazine cover of him
GLENN: No, seriously.
PAT: On the New Yorker. No, he did.
GLENN: No, he did not.
PAT: Yes, he did.
GLENN: No, he did not.
PAT: Yeah, according to, I think it was on the Fox website that he replaced where that used to be or in the general vicinity.
PAT: He replaced it with a magazine cover that featured, some Obama facts or something like that.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
PAT: Yeah, you didn't see that one, huh?
STU: Probably matched the blues and Reds.
GLENN: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. The positions of things in the White House, in the Oval Office are historic. Can somebody please find out what the picture is, if you are sitting at the president's desk, it would be to your left, not sharp left but right to the left of the door. Somebody find out what president is hanging there, if there even is a president hanging there. Can somebody get a picture of the current Oval Office configuration and what's hanging on the walls? Everything holds special meaning. For instance, that picture at that place is the traditional spot where the president hangs a portrait of the person that most inspires him. The president that most inspires him. I'll bet you it's Abraham Lincoln.
PAT: For this president, for Obama?
GLENN: For this president. Because Abraham Lincoln was transformative. It should be Woodrow Wilson or FDR.
GLENN: But I'll bet you for political purposes it is Abraham Lincoln. It was Abraham Lincoln under Bush.
PAT: Be interesting if it was Saul Alinsky, big old painting of Saul Alinksy.
GLENN: It has to be a president.
PAT: That would be great oh.
GLENN: It has to be a president.
PAT: It does have to be a president.
GLENN: Do you have the shot from the president? You know the couches and the chairs?
GLENN: Sitting in front of the president's desk, right? If I was sitting in the president's chair.
GLENN: It would be to the, just to the left of the door.
STU: Left of the door, okay. On the left — on the right? Both of them are just out of the view here.
PAT: Too bad.
STU: I'm going to see if I can find it.
GLENN: But you just, you don't take a bust out. You know, you don't — I mean, I don't know if —
PAT: I seriously can't think of a reason you would do that to a friendly nation unless, you know, they attacked us. Then you might send the bust back.
PAT: You send it back then.
GLENN: You just move it to another room. You move it to another position.
PAT: Yeah, if you didn't like it, you keep it around somewhere. You don't insult them.
GLENN: You give it to the national art gallery.
PAT: Smithsonian, yeah.
GLENN: It was a gift from the people. You don't do that. I mean, have you ever received a gift from somebody? We have — oh, I hate these things. You know those Lladró things?
GLENN: You like those, don't you?
PAT: Well, my wife does.
GLENN: I hate those.
PAT: I'm kind of neutral on them. I don't really care.
GLENN: Neutral? They should all be destroyed. I hate them. I hate them.
PAT: That's an extremist position on Lladró.
GLENN: I know it is, yeah. Soccer and Lladrós.
GLENN: So these figurines, we have one of them we got when we were married, and I hate this damn — I hate it. But we keep it because the person —
PAT: Did we give it to you?
GLENN: I just realized —
PAT: Did I give it to you?
GLENN: No, you didn't. I just realized I'm revealing too much because they may be listening. Okay, it's just out in the open. I hate it. We keep it and when you come over, we put it out. It goes back into a box in our China cabinet and it's taking up space and we hate it!
PAT: But you don't send it back.
GLENN: We don't send it back. And if I wasn't so stupid and such a big mouth, you wouldn't know it! We keep it because we love you. We keep it because we love you. And we want you to know that we love you. Now, I personally think it shows how much we love you because we hate the damn gift. But we keep it and we bring it out when you come over. You require extra work for us! Because we love you. Now, you don't — I wouldn't ever say, "Come here, take this back." No, we gave it to you as a gift. "Yeah, we don't need it anymore."
PAT: "We don't want it, we don't like you."
GLENN: What is that? It is Abe Lincoln?
PAT: Good call on that.
GLENN: Who do you think
PAT: Abe. It's got to be. You are right, transformative.
GLENN: Woodrow Wilson. You know what? If I were ever president of the United States, that's who I'd put up there, Woodrow Wilson, just to remind me, I hate that guy!
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