GLENN: Remember Barack Obama is about hope and not fear. We're past the politics of fear, or are we? The Arizona law, I have one of my chief researchers looking at this now. We have a report from Washington about the lawsuit that has been filed. In the lawsuit that has been filed by the federal government in Arizona, it is my understanding currently, and I will get verification on this, I have enough verification where I feel comfortable with it but I haven't personally verified it, that in the lawsuit for Arizona — well, before I tell you, Pat, why are they filing this lawsuit? What is the big problem with this Arizona law?
PAT: Oh, it's discriminatory.
PAT: You know, they are going to be pulling people over for driving while Hispanic. I mean, it's just an ugly — you go out for ice cream and wind up in the slammer.
GLENN: It's discrimination.
PAT: Sure it is.
PAT: Sure it is.
GLENN: Do you know what's not in this lawsuit?
GLENN: No. The government doesn't make the case in this lawsuit that it's discriminatory.
PAT: What? I thought that was the government's case.
GLENN: I thought that is — exactly right. No, no, no.
PAT: That it's discriminatory?
GLENN: No, no, that's not the case.
GLENN: No. They don't make that. They are not making that case.
PAT: What's their problem then?
GLENN: Isn't that ‑‑ pardon me?
PAT: What's their problem?
GLENN: Well, you can't have ‑‑
PAT: They're trying to do the job we're not doing?
GLENN: No, you can't have the cities or states go up against the federal government and have a competing law. You can't do that. That is for the federal government to decide, not for Arizona to decide. But it's not discriminatory. They don't make that case in the lawsuit. You see, that's only for the public consumption. That is to — could you — do you remember the, who was it, Gerald from — Gerald what's his name from SEIU that said, you know, all you have to do is you say this to African‑Americans and they know. They're on it. You can just whip them up into a frenzy. Do you have that by any chance?
PAT: I don't know.
GLENN: We played it last night. It's SEIU. They're basically saying we've got to whip people up against white people, and we can get the African‑Americans just by saying discrimination. So that's what's happening now. That's for the public consumption. But that's not, that's not actually the case. They are not trying to make that case at all.
So Gibbs was asked this question, and this question is extraordinarily important because if you're not making the case of discrimination, you're saying now that, well, it's just that, you know, this is the federal government's job, and you can't have that. This is a powerful question. Listen yesterday, press conference with Robert Gibbs.
REPORTER: Now there are dozens of so‑called sanctuary cities that have their own policies that might potentially conflict with federal law supplements like Governor Brewer to say that if Arizona's in violation of federal law, then so are these localities. So my question is why did the president then ask DOJ to look at Arizona and not everywhere?
GIBBS: Let me — I don't know the answer to that but I will try to seek some answer on — some answer on that.
GLENN: Some —
PAT: Let me...
GLENN: Some... I'm going to — I'm going to get a — you know, I think it's appropriate when you don't have an answer to anything and you — I mean, you just... uh... Michelle Obama might be able to help out.
MICHELLE OBAMA: And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices, we are going to have to change our conversation, we're going to have to change our traditions, our history. We're going to have to move into a different place.
GLENN: We should just move to a different place because we're going to have to change everything. Just change the conversation. Can we change the conversation a bit? Let's just talk about discrimination. Can't we change the conversation just a little bit? Let's change our history a little bit. We stole that land. Let's just change our history. Let's just change the conversation.
So what about the sanctuary cities? How come the federal government didn't go after the sanctuary cities?