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PAT: You want to go back to that?
GLENN: Yeah. Go ahead. Let's take it from the beginning. You
VOICE: I hate white people, all of them. Every last iota of a cracker, I hate him. We didn't come out here to play this game. There's too much serious business going on in the black community to go out here sliding through South Street with white dirty cracker whore [ BLEEP ] on our arms and we call ourselves black men with African garb on. What the hell is wrong with you, black man? You had a (inaudible) with a white girl on your damn arm. You want freedom? You are going to have to kill some crackers. You are going to have to kill some of their babies.
PAT: Good point, yeah. I mean —
GLENN: It is a good point.
PAT: Seldom made.
GLENN: He is — well, he's regal. He's regal.
PAT: He's a king.
GLENN: Yeah, he is.
PAT: King Shamir.
GLENN: So anyway, King Shamir fresh off his Pap Shamir tour, talks about killing cracker babies. I personally would rather go to Cracker Barrel than kill cracker berries — babies, but I am again not a pap nor a king. Now, is it chairman or general?
PAT: He's known as both. I think he's a general chairman. Or —
STU: He's generally a chairman.
PAT: Generally chairman. General.
GLENN: He's a chairman and general of what? In general he's what?
PAT: Of the Black Panther, you know, army.
GLENN: Oh, so the black — he may be a general in the Black Liberation Army?
PAT: He may be. He may be.
GLENN: And a chairman of?
PAT: The party.
GLENN: The party? Oh. Like Chairman Mao?
PAT: Kind of like that.
GLENN: Okay. So general, General Chairman Shamir who we don't know for sure if he's related to Pap or King Shamir followed up in an interview that the cracker babies — well, let's have him say it. This is new audio now.
PAT: Yeah, this is an interview with chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz.
GLENN: Same as general?
PAT: Same as general.
GLENN: All right.
PAT: Shabazz of the new Black Panther Party.
GLENN: Does he know General Chou?
PAT: We'll have to ask him.
GLENN: All right. Go ahead.
PAT: I don't know. He was asked if he agreed with the comments of King Shamir and killing cracker babies.
MALIK SHABAZZ: I'll say this. The new Black Panther Party does not believe in going out on the streets and berating black people. We don't believe on getting out and attacking people in the streets. We don't believe —
GLENN: Hang on just a second. I didn't think that that was in question.
GLENN: Who asked him that question?
STU: That's the part that he finds reprehensible because he was yelling at a black guy for dating a white woman. That was the offensive part of the kill the cracker babies comment.
PAT: This is priceless.
MALIK SHABAZZ: In telegraphing what we may or may not do. I don't believe in —
GLENN: Hold it. Stop just a second. Did you hear what he just said?
PAT: Oh, yes. He will say it again.
GLENN: Play it again, please.
PAT: The whole thing?
GLENN: The whole thing
MALIK SHABAZZ: I'll say this. The new Black Panther Party does not believe in going out on the streets and berating black people. We don't believe in getting up and attacking our people in the streets. We don't believe in telegraphing what we may or may not do.
PAT: You like that?
GLENN: Yeah, I do.
PAT: We don't believe in telegraphing what we — you know, if we want to kill cracker babies, we certainly don't want to telegraph it. I mean, that's just silliness.
STU: Yeah, changing message.
GLENN: We have been making fun of this the whole time and, well, it may — it may, on this broadcast, appear as though we are making fun of pap, colonel, chairman, and King Shamir, I want you to know that it's about to turn deadly serious in a minute. But until that time, let's continue to allow it to appear as though we're making fun of these losers.
MALIK SHABAZZ: I believe as an attorney and as a wise general, I don't believe in telegraphing anything and I don't believe —
GLENN: Stop. Hold on just —
PAT: As a wise general.
GLENN: As a wise general. Okay? Just wanted to —
STU: And attorney.
GLENN: Oh, and an attorney.
STU: Yeah, as a wise attorney and general. I don't know if he's an Attorney General but he's an attorney and a general.
PAT: He's a chairman Attorney General?
STU: That's pretty awesome.
PAT: Or is he generally a chairman attorney?
GLENN: We're not really sure.
PAT: I don't know.
GLENN: Go ahead.
MALIK SHABAZZ: I don't believe in overhyped rhetoric. I don't believe in overhyped rhetoric that is not calculated to lead to serious action. And so I would say that —
GLENN: Hold on just a second. What he's saying there is, what he's saying there is mean what you say and say what you mean.
PAT: Yeah, if you are going to say you are going to kill cracker babies, you better go do it.
STU: And don't telegraph it to the cracker babies. That's completely —
PAT: I mean, cracker babies, you know, while he may not think they are that smart, they are pretty crafty. And you don't want them to know in advance.
GLENN: Well, they are the oppressor.
PAT: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
GLENN: The cracker babies are so oppressive.
PAT: We'll get to that soon.
GLENN: All right.
MALIK SHABAZZ: He has to speak better if he's going to speak for this organization ever again in the future, he has to speak with a better, more calculated representation, and I believe that he has it in him to do it.
VOICE: Well, obviously you don't believe in killing white babies?
PAT: I like that. Obviously you don't believe in killing cracker babies, white babies?
STU: I love — that's great. And I love also the fact that he's leaving it open that he could speak for the organization in the future. If this guy's going to speak for us in the future, he's going to have to change his approach slightly.
PAT: Well, he's got it in him. Really, we see all the potential. We've seen the potential that King Shamir has.
GLENN: Well, you don't just —
PAT: As a speaker.
GLENN: You don't just throw a king out. He's a king.
PAT: That's right.
GLENN: All right.
PAT: So the question is obvious, and the interviewer's trying to help him. Obviously you don't believe in killing white babies.
MALIK SHABAZZ: Not in that context, no, sir.
GLENN: Okay. Stop for a second. I'm going to take a break and I want to come back. I want to give you time to rest and think exactly what context do you kill white babies? Exactly what context do you say, you got to kill a few babies if you want to be free. What context does that — I'll give you time. This is a little homework.