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GLENN: I want to start with some audio from the Boy Scout jamboree. This is the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts. The President did not show up. He's the first President to not do so, it's my understanding. Is that right?
PAT: I think so.
GLENN: 100 year anniversary. It's a big deal, but he had to go be on The View. So, you understand his priorities. The President also, for awhile there, I believe he was not signing the Eagle Scout congratulatory letters. The White House says that was just a backlog and, you know, some sort of an error and he is doing that now, but when they played a videotape of him, this was the reaction of the Boy Scouts.
GLENN: I don't think they liked him. Now, here is my surprising commentary. Shame on the Boy Scouts, shame on the individual Boy Scouts there. If my son would have been a part of that, I would have asked him when he got home, did you do that? If he would have said "yes," I would have said, Shame on you. You're wearing your uniform. The Boy Scouts are about leading people. It was childish and I know you are still a child, but there were Eagle Scouts there. Would you see a member of our military do that?
PAT: No, but they're military.
GLENN: Excuse me.
GLENN: Is this your show or is this my show?
PAT: They're military
GLENN: This is my show. Hush up for a second.
PAT: Oh. So you're going to filibuster?
GLENN: Yes. You were the one
Glenn: You were the one that got on the radio on Friday.
GLENN: And said that Keith Olberman was responsible for those shootings in Connecticut.
PAT: Right before I said he wasn't.
GLENN: It doesn't matter what you said. It's how Media Matters
PAT: Might have portrayed it in and what Keith Olberman may have been thinking.
GLENN: Portrayed it and so it's a good thing I get all my news from Media Matters. So, shut the pie hole! Now, here’s the thing. Pat and I have had a heated discussion on this off the air. We disagree and I'll let him make his counterpoint on another show another day, but here's the thing. Look. I have no problem if they want to express themselves this way, you know, they can do it. I think they tarnished the reputation of the Boy Scouts. Turning your back on it? Fine. Sitting there quietly and not applauding would have sent a powerful message, but booing is, you know you can do at a hockey game. I think it's beneath the Boy Scouts. He is the commander in chief and as much as I don't like this man and I don't like his policies and I really don't have a soft spot in my heart for him it's inappropriate, just inappropriate. Wouldn't be proud of my son if he did that. I would never treat the President like that. If the President came to an event where I was at and I've been there I did not boo the President. I didn't clap, but I stood politely. That's the way you handle it
STU: Because of the office.
GLENN: It's the office. It's the President of the United States. It's the office of the President of the United States.
PAT: I guess
GLENN: It's much bigger than a man.
STU: And you just hate the office of the President, Pat? Is that your counterpoint?
PAT: You're talking about the office that he pees all over day? Is that the office you're talking about?
STU: Pat Gray accuses Obama of urinating on the office.
GLENN: I had a conversation with friends this weekend. We were talking about the resolute desk and I said, if I see another picture of that man with his feet on the resolute desk, my head's going to explode. That is probably the most important piece of historic furniture outside of, Independence Hall that I can think of. Take your damn feet off the resolute desk, please. So, I understand. I understand how you feel, but explain how that is good for
PAT: Are they American citizens? Why can't they express themselves this way? I don't get it.
GLENN: They can. I'm not being him, but there's just too much information about Boy Scouts booing out there and they should control that message. I'm not saying that they can't do that. I think if it were my son, I would be disappointed in him
STU: You're not making a national policy. You're making a decision as a parent.
GLENN: As a parent. I'm not saying that the Boy Scouts shouldn't do that. I'm just saying that the scout leaders should have said, guys, guys, inappropriate. Now, if you couldn't do that on the field, I hope that some of them, at least, did that off the field. It's not right.
PAT: I don't know about that.
Glenn: Well, that's a figure of speech
STU: That is the counterpoint
STU: They're not military. It certainly wouldn't be appropriate for the U.S. military, because he's the commander in chief, he's ultimately their leader. These are Boy Scouts. Who cares? S I mean, what's the problem. I'm sure they hear all the time from their parents about this guy.
PAT: There's nothing, dishonorable, I don't think, about expressing yourself in a political way.
PAT: Or booing just because he's not there. It could be that.
GLENN: There's another option, too.
PAT: He disrespected them. They're disrespecting him. How about that?
GLENN: You don't you're not seriously making the point he started it? You're not seriously making that point?
PAT: It's a good point.
GLENN: Get Jackie on the phone. You're going to get hammered again.
PAT: Okay. If they're screaming obscenities, I'm with you. That would be wrong.
GLENN: What did he say?
PAT: Somebody said, I hope you're watching this. I think meaning President Obama.
STU: It was a way to express their displeasure. What do you want them to do? Seriously,
GLENN: Is that the only way?
PAT: I think it's a way. It obviously got them some coverage on national radio, did it not.
GLENN: Yes, it did.
PAT: It might even get them on TV.
GLENN: I've got to tell you, when I first saw it, I go, Gosh, that feels good. But just because it feels good, do you do it?
PAT: Not necessarily. No, --
GLENN: But if somebody else started it and it feels good
GLENN: then you do it?
PAT: No. And if it's not illegal, if it's not immoral. I don't know that it's immoral to boo the President.
GLENN: Is not immoral.
PAT: So, it is impolite? Maybe. There's an issue for Ms. Manners. I mean, I'm okay with it. If my son were there, if Shawn were there and he booed or Daniel and they probably would, based on everything they hear around the dinner table every night, I would be fine with it.
GLENN: Would Jackie?
PAT: Yeah. I think so. get her on the
GLENN: Get her on the phone.
PAT: Keith is calling right now.
GLENN: I don't think she would be.
PAT: She wouldn't be fine with our sons booing President Obama? Is that your position?
GLENN: In their uniform, in their uniform.
PAT: Well, again, if they're Marines, that's a different thing but it's a Boy Scout uniform, Boy Scouts.
GLENN: I'm sorry. What do the Boy Scouts stand for?
PAT: Let's see. Honorable, brave, clean, reverent.
GLENN: Is that reverent?
STU: Reverent is probably the
GLENN: I will get you that that's brave. In today's world, that is brave.
GLENN: So, I'll give you the brave.
STU: We learned from Joe Biden, the clean one does apply potentially here, from his commentary before the election.
GLENN: I'm just I'm just wondering if that is the Boy Scout if that's what you think of when you think of Boy Scouts. Not me.
STU: Reverent I think that is definitely violated when you're booing the President.
GLENN: I don't think it's honorable.
STU: You know, I think
PAT: I don't think it's dishonorable.
GLENN: If you're at a football game, yeah. You were at the 100th anniversary jamboree of the Boy Scouts of America that is supposed teach our boys to be better than, you know than the average run of the mill, to be more in control, to be honorable, decent, honest, prepared, reverent.
STU: You would love your son to step up and be above the fray there. You would love it. That would be a nice
GLENN: That's what that is about.
STU: You don't lock your kid in the basement for six months if he boos, clearly, but, ideally it would be nice to have them, like, I don't want to be a part of that.
PAT: Ideally, I'm totally fine with either of my sons booing the President.
GLENN: Okay. Let me ask you this. At the Restoring Honor Rally.
PAT: Uh huh.
GLENN: Restoring Honor Rally, you know what they have planned.
PAT: Uh huh.
GLENN: If the President were to record a two minute video, would you say that it was appropriate if people just shouted it down and booed it out?
GLENN: Why? We're not wearing uniforms.
PAT: Have you ever been to a Scout jamboree? It's not a solemn assembly.
GLENN: I'm not saying they're all wearing their hoods because -- You know they all have hoods.
PAT: Who does?
GLENN: The Boy Scouts. Yeah, they have hoods. Anyway, go ahead.
STU: But that's a good point.
PAT: 8 28's going to be a different kind of event.
STU: It's just overtly nonpolitical.
PAT: And we've said that from the outset.
GLENN: Pat Gray announces Boy Scouts are political.
PAT: Chose The View over you.
GLENN: He deserves it.
PAT: He does. And I'm fine with them doing it.
GLENN: All right.
STU: Would you encourage it?
PAT: Would I encourage it?
GLENN: Would you say that your reaction to it is encouraging that kind of behavior for somebody in the oval office?
PAT: No. Because I just said I wouldn't encourage it.
GLENN: Now, let me ask you this.
PAT: All right.
GLENN: Would if I showed up at I don't know an organization Girl Scouts. We'll say the Girl Scouts hate my guts and I had to go do an episode of JP Patches or, you know, whatever and I was on some clown show.
GLENN: You know, and I had to go do an episode and it was the 100th anniversary and I somehow or the other were the leader of the Girl Scouts free world and I didn't show up, you would go ahead and boo me too, if I were President?
GLENN: Ronald Reagan?
Glenn: If he chose not to, just boo the President?
PAT: Yeah. It would be okay.
GLENN: Uh huh.
PAT: I don't think so. I would be okay with it.
GLENN: If they went to college, if the President went to college and he was just trying to speak
PAT: The President did go to college and he did speak.
GLENN: No. I'm saying if a President went to a college
GLENN: If Ronald Reagan went to a college and they just booed him
PAT: It probably did happen.
GLENN: So, you endorse that?
STU: He's just Switzerland on all of these things.
GLENN: I'm trying to figure out why you don't endorse that but you do endorse this.
PAT: Because there's no reason to boo the guy that shows up at your event and you've invited him there and he shows up and he gives as a speech as you're expecting him to do. That's not the case here.
GLENN: Okay. So , if Ronald Reagan
PAT: They invited him to be there. He chose not to be there. They expressed themselves.
GLENN: If Ronald Reagan was invited to a university and he decided to go on vacation with his wife, with 700 friends, and he went in a different place than she did and he took other friends, she took more friends and they both used really large jets.
PAT: Yeah. I'm not sure what you're getting at. I can't even imagine.
GLENN: I know. It's a weird scenario. It would never happen. And it was Ronald Reagan's birthday and he was separated from his wife on that birthday, he was on the other side of the world, Nancy was in
GLENN: Yes. And she was doing all kinds I don't know why I'm concentrating on that so much, but somehow or the other I think it's important to the story. And Ronald Reagan decides not to go to this college, he's just going to cut a video, do you think it's appropriate that he get booed
PAT: Yeah. I think it's okay that they boo him. I would be okay with that.
GLENN: Even if they were wearing their lacrosse uniforms?
PAT: No. Then no, because lacrosse is different. That's like the U.S. military.
[NOTE: Transcript may have been edited to enhance readability - audio archive includes full segment as it was originally aired]