by Laura Ingraham
INGRAHAM: Hey, Glenn. How are you?
GLENN: How are you?
INGRAHAM: I'm fantastic. You're going to be at the Performing Arts Center? That gives new meaning to the, you know, words performing arts. That's awesome.
GLENN: You know, the Kennedy Center, I have a feeling this is going to drive
GLENN: a lot of people are just going to go they're going to lose it.
INGRAHAM: My question is that big bust, you know, the iconic bust, classic massive head of John F. Kennedy, will that just crack in two?
GLENN: I'm not really sure. You know, John F. Kennedy was more of a
GLENN: Yeah. He was much more of an American conservative than, I'll bet, 80% of the people in Congress now.
INGRAHAM: Can I say something about what I love that you're doing on your show every day? And this is going to sound like a shameless suck up moment of the day, but it happens to be true. The Road to Serfdom, I am so glad that you have brought this to the floor. People who hadn't read it in college or hadn't been introduced to Hayek and what he predicted would happen with this enslavement mentality we're developing, sadly, in our country, if we don't get on the right path to free market reforms and opening up, you know, this land of possibility to everyone, it is so essential that people go back and read that and you've brought that out again and I just think this is fabulous.
GLENN: May I just
INGRAHAM: Hats off to you.
GLENN: May I just say I'm going to turn it back around on you and say this is going to sound like suck up, but this is absolutely true. Do you know why I read that book?
GLENN: You shamed me into it. You didn't you probably don't even remember. You and I were having a conversation a long time I don't even know when and you said to me, The Road to Serfdom. And I looked at you and went, Huh? And you said, You haven't read Road to Serfdom? And I said, Yeah, and hadn't. I told you no and you said, Oh, you have to read Road to Serfdom. I went out. I bought it and I, mean, I don't know the last time you looked at it. It looks like the most eye bleed, boring book of your life.
INGRAHAM: It's so good, though.
GLENN: And I read it because of you.
INGRAHAM: Oh, great. Well, that's fantastic. I had forgotten I said that to you, but that's awesome, fantastic.
GLENN: Well, there you go. You forget so many great things. All right. So, you have the you have the book out, the Obama Diaries. How is it doing?
INGRAHAM: It's great. I'm following your lead, Glenn, from Threshold Publishers which I know you have your own imprint in and they've done a great job and
GLENN: They're great.
INGRAHAM: We debuted at No. 1 and we duked it out for No. 2 and two two for the 68 in two weeks, even though we sold more than the book that was ahead of us, but, you know
GLENN: No. That doesn't happen.
GLENN: That doesn't that never happens.
INGRAHAM: Exactly, but, no. It's been fantastic and, you know, people say, Oh, this is satire and how can you satirize the Obamas? And I said, Well, look. These diary entries that you know, I didn't ask them for. Them just came to me, but these diary entries are turning out to be her present and true than I ever dreamed they would be, you know, about the travels and the Spanish extravagance and the infighting and intrigue about Hillary, will she be the veep or not. I mean, it's all kind of it's in their musings and, you know, I just lay it out there.
GLENN: When I wrote The Overton Window, I had a hard time. We had to go back and change stuff because we're, like, Oh, crap. They did that.
INGRAHAM: You can't predict it.
GLENN: I know. It's unbelievable.
INGRAHAM: Hey, can I say something else? And, again, this is I haven't talked to you in a long time and I've been we at our show here and so many of the folks I've met are huge fans of yours and supporters of yours and are thrilled about the 8 28 rally. Lots of folks are, like, Laura, are you going to be there? I'm, like, I haven't gotten invited. So
GLENN: Laura, I'm not having anybody political on stage except for Sarah Palin and that's just to introduce and talk as a mother on troops, but I would love to have you there.
INGRAHAM: Oh, yeah.
GLENN: We have a VIP section. We would love to have you there.
INGRAHAM: Well, I think I think I think I'm in town. I might have my one day one week vacation then, but I'm not positive. I would love to be there if I can be there.
INGRAHAM: But I support what you're doing. But my brother Brooks who lives in Seoul, South Korea, watches your show in Seoul and he's always e mailing me, get talk to Glenn. I love what he did, because he's a big, you know, student of history and everything, but he says you have a big following in Korea. So, it's a worldwide phenomenon.
GLENN: That's where the big following is.
GLENN: Laura, what do you think? Do you think that I said this the other day, that these people the Obamas either know something that we don't know they're just not going to why worry about elections, they are just completely tone deaf and stupid which I don't think is the case, or they really aren't planning on running for a second term because they don't I mean, they're there's no way to sell any of the stuff that they're doing and this trip overseas and everything else, they're just completely out of step with the American people. Do you think they care?
INGRAHAM: Well, I really believe that they consider themselves as kind of floating above the country, that they never truly seem to embrace the American ideal. They were historic, they were iconic from the very beginning, and so when he spoke of America overseas, when he when he did the Apologorama and talked we're not a nature of torturers, America is exceptional like the Greeks consider themselves exceptional, it was never a sense of being of America, right? It was a sense of, yeah, we're there but we're more global citizens or even global celebrities and I think they really believe that that aura will somehow rescue them again, that the Republicans won't rise to the occasion, they don't have anyone with the same wattage as they have and that they'll basically be able to transcend whatever the right does.
GLENN: Do you see anybody that is do you think Chris Christie would run?
INGRAHAM: I like him.
GLENN: I do, too.
INGRAHAM: I like him a lot and I think the idea of someone who is not working out every five seconds and you know, might be a little bit corpulent but has really good common sense ideas, that might actually be the anti Obama play and could be really fascinating. So, I love Christie. I mean, I like a lot of the people out there.
GLENN: Who do you think is going to run? Do you think Sarah Palin's going to run?
INGRAHAM: I you know, I'm guessing what Sarah's going to do. I think not, but
GLENN: I think so, too.
INGRAHAM: I don't think so. I think she's a king and queen maker and I think that's an incredibly positive role and she's an entrepreneur and, look, she has more experience than Barack Obama ever had and obviously wouldn't be doing some of the bone headed things he's doing. So, they would have been, you know, a now she would be leaps and bounds above what he's done and, you know, that's not saying much, but she would have done great.
GLENN: Can Mitt Romney win with his with his flirting with socialism in I mean, is he a progressive or is he
GLENN: a good guy?
INGRAHAM: No, he's not. I mean, I think that Romney I mean, look, Glenn, he got caught in this Iraq trap, I think, in the last election. He was talking a lot about Iraq and War on Terror and people were just tired of that. They wanted they wanted the CEO and chief in Romney and I told him at the time. I was a big supporter of his. I really like him a lot, but I didn't follow through on growing the prosperity class message which I think he is now onto. He needs to mess up his hair a little bit, do a little do a little less Ward Cleaver and a little more Fonzie.
GLENN: It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
INGRAHAM: Maybe not, maybe not, but I like him.
GLENN: It's not going to happen.
GLENN: Newt Gingrich, can he win?
INGRAHAM: I think the problem, maybe, with Newt is he has incredible ideas and I like Newt very much. I mean, look, I love him. If he would be President tomorrow, I would be a happy person. I think what he might be perceived, though, Glenn is a little too 1994 and that people want, you know, 2012. They don't want 1994. As much as they love Gingrich and I can be totally wrong, but that's
GLENN: Do you see anybody out there that you say, Nobody really knows about this person, but this person you have to watch?
INGRAHAM: Well, no. I don't really see anyone sort of emerging from the states that we don't that we don't know of and
GLENN: All right. Do you
INGRAHAM: Rick Perry is someone I think a lot of people are talking about, as well, and you know, Glenn Beck and people like that.
GLENN: Yeah, right. The Tea Party, Trent Lott says it's over. We don't need a bunch of Tea Party goers and Jim DeMint is coming up here to the capital. They still don't seem the party Republicans still don't seem to get it. Which one lasts longer? The Tea Party movement or the Republicans as they have shown themselves to be over the last
INGRAHAM: That's an excellent, excellent way of putting it. Well, look. In the Obama Diaries, they write about they write about the Tea Parties. They demonize the Tea Party, you know, the tea baggers, we're going to connect them with acts of violence, you know, with vandalism across the country, we're going to make them look like really mean, intolerant, terrible people and it's kind of played out that way. Right? I mean, they're always dismissed and demeaned, but what I found and I just came off a 21 city book tour. What I found out is that it's really kind of an American movement. I think the Tea Party monicker has kind of outlived its use. I think this is just an America movement, I mean, and you and others are really, you know, responsible for igniting this new civic engagement that's very positive. It's a forward looking
GLENN: It is.
INGRAHAM: positive and hopeful approach. I have the chapter called The Happy Warriors and I think that and, you know, Glenn, someone said you someone told me you've been known to cry at times, but I don't buy that.
GLENN: It's a rumor.
INGRAHAM: I don't buy that at all.
GLENN: That's TGI.
INGRAHAM: You're a tough guy?
INGRAHAM? No. But being a happy warrior, you also have a lot of fun in what you do because you believe in what you're doing. That's that Reagan taught us. We need to do that and the American movement, Tea Party, whatever you want to call it, I think that is a very hopeful moment for the country and, I know, we really are the community organizers, are we not?
GLENN: The name of I wish we weren't. The name of the book, No. 1 New York Times bestseller, is Obama the Obama Diaries. The author, of course, is Laura Ingraham. Laura, as always, good talking to you.
INGRAHAM: Glenn, congrats on all the success. I hope to see you on the 28th.
GLENN: I hope you're there.
INGRAHAM: All right. Thanks. Bye bye.