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GLENN: We're down at the XM studios here in Washington D.C. as we are getting ready for 8/28. Yesterday you might have heard we got the permit for 8/28.
STU: No, no, all the liberals were saying we weren't going to get the permit. You forgot about that because they had outed you. You didn't even have a permit. The whole thing was a hoax.
PAT: A hoax.
GLENN: No, but didn't you hear when we corrected them right off the bat and said, no, no, you never get the permit until the week before.
STU: I never saw that printed anywhere. I didn't see that. I was reading the newspaper every day to see it. I only heard that you didn't have the permit and that you were lying.
GLENN: Here in Washington the news is not about 8/28. The news in Washington is about the counterrallies which apparently I am, according to Al Sharpton, I'm a counterrally but he says he hopes to have 3,000 people there for their, I guess main rally, and our counterrally might be 100 or 200 or 300,000 people.
PAT: Well, and he does this all the time. It's a tradition for him, year after year after year after year.
GLENN: Really? I didn't know that.
PAT: Traditional. Yes, he only announced that he was having a rally five months ago? When we announced almost a year ago.
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PAT: But, but this is just a traditional thing for him.
GLENN: I didn't know that.
PAT: Year after year. This dates back to the, I think the late 1800s.
PAT: '74, thank you. Thank you, I didn't know the exact date.
GLENN: I didn't know we had exact evidence that he
PAT: No, no, that he really?
GLENN: That he doesn't do this every year.
PAT: No, no.
GLENN: For instance, wasn't it 2008 that he was at the
STU: Democratic National Convention in Denver.
PAT: On the 28th?
GLENN: On the 28th.
PAT: On the 27th and then he flew back for the traditional 8/28 speech.
GLENN: No, he wasn't there.
STU: No, uh huh.
PAT: Weird. Wait.
STU: We'll find out it was just a really long march all the way from Denver to Washington.
GLENN: Wow. On a plane in first class.
GLENN: (Laughing). So the word here is all about Al Sharpton and the counterdemonstration that he is doing. And I have to tell ya, you just lock arms and you don't pay attention to anybody else or anything else that is going on. You don't pay attention to any of it. Because it's not about them, and they have absolutely every right to protest or march or do whatever they want to do, and that's fine. You know, we'd sure love to have them listen. And, you know, instead of judging there's not even a we're not even judging a man by the content of his character. We're beyond even judging a book by its cover. They have no idea what's going to be said or done on stage and they're protesting it already.
PAT: Well, they know it's going to be hateful and they know it's going to be politically charged.
PAT: And they know you're involved, and that's all they need.
GLENN: That's all they need to know.
PAT: That's all they need.
GLENN: That's all they need to know.
STU: Isn't this one of those things with the media where Van Jones and ACORN where if you are reading a newspaper every day, you hear about a counterrally without ever hearing a story of the rally. Like, you don't even understand what it's a counter to because they didn't report the actual rally initially. They are just reporting the response to the rally that they never reported on.
GLENN: Here is my guess. The just like the coverage of the mosque now is only starting to cover the counter? Have you noticed that? Now if you watch the you'll only see these huge crowds in New York, huge crowds for the rallies, but they're spending most of the time talking to the people on the other side and the
PAT: The numbers for the mosque.
GLENN: That were for the mosque, and the numbers there are just almost nonexistent. My prediction is that this will be covered incorrectly, they will take one line from somebody or one thing or they will find one person on the stage that shouldn't have been there and or there will be somebody in the crowd, whatever, they will focus on one thing.
GLENN: And then all of the coverage will be about the counterrallies.
PAT: Well, that's why we keep saying, you've said it a thousand times, please leave your signs at home. Don't bring any signs. Because that's what they will focus on. If anybody says anything incendiary, that will be the story.
GLENN: Well, they will already, if anybody brings signs now, they will already focus on that and they will say, Glenn Beck said not to bring signs and yet people did it anyway.
PAT: They brandished placards. What was that story we had a couple of months ago? They were brandishing placards.
PAT: Like it was a weapon or something.
STU: And this is what they are doing with the mosques, too, is they find the best spoken defender of the mosque that's standing out there and then they find the one idiot who's going, no Muslims in New York State! And they put them on you know, they are the voice of the movement in opposition.
GLENN: Yeah, they are the voice of the people. So it is, it is interesting to watch. Have you noticed that they are starting to merge together? Do you happen to have the Howard Curtis CNN thing?
GLENN: They are starting to merge together. This 8/28, which has nothing to do with the mosque thing, nothing to do with it.
GLENN: Have you noticed they are merging?
STU: No, I haven't. Really?
GLENN: Oh, yeah. CNN is starting to merge the two together, I guess because I'm such a hateful person that even if I'm not talking about the mosque, they know I want to talk about the mosque.
GLENN: And so now they are starting to merge together, and one of the ways they are merging together is, "Well, if the mosque is in poor taste, isn't 8/28 in poor taste? Shouldn't Glenn Beck give up 8/28 because..." well, first of all, I want you to know I haven't killed 3,000 people. I and my friends, nobody in my church, nobody in my faith and I stood up against the killing of 3,000 people. So I don't know where that connection is.
PAT: They seem to forget that slight detail.
PAT: That extremists did, in fact, kill 3,000 people.
GLENN: Now, if you want to say the tea party, which they do, the tea party is akin to what's his name, the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh.
PAT: Timothy McVeigh.
GLENN: I don't think so.
GLENN: I'm clearly on the record for the last 15 years or how long ago did that happen? Ten years?
GLENN: Clearly on the record being against that, too.
STU: Not to mention, too. You know, maybe I'm wrong on this. But when I think of 9/11, Ground Zero, you think of a somber site of remembrance. The "I Have a Dream" speech is triumphant moment.
STU: It's not a it's a moment of the Civil Rights Movement, moving further the American dream, it's a great thing.
GLENN: Do you remember why we picked 8/28?
PAT: Yeah. Because first of all, 9/12 was a Sunday.
GLENN: Sunday, and I'm not going to have people try to gather on the Sabbath. I'm not going to ask them. How can you ask for the Lord's blessings if you are breaking the Sabbath.
PAT: And then the day before that's obviously 9/11, which you didn't want to mess with.
GLENN: Right, which I don't think we want to have. Can you imagine what people would have said? And they would have been right.
PAT: Exploiting 9/11...
GLENN: So we go back and we just look for an open date where the mall is open and we are open. Now, if this is a traditional event with Al Sharpton, how come there wasn't a hold on the Lincoln Memorial?
STU: So weird.
PAT: That's a good point
GLENN: Yeah. They do it every year, of course. So it was the only open date as close and you know what we argued at the time was that is move in weekend for colleges. And everybody said, Glenn, you are never going to be able to get people there because the colleges, everybody's taking their kids to school. And I said, well, I mean, there's no other open date. There was no other open date. So we took that date, we announced it from stage in Florida. By the time I got onto the bus, I was told that the New York Times had blogged and said that's 8/28. My response was, do we not own a Chase's Calendar? I said, they're going to kill us on this. Now CNN is reporting that, "Well, that's how little Martin Luther King's dream means to Glenn Beck."
GLENN: Because he didn't know. Is excuse me? I'm lucky to know my children's birth date.
STU: Yeah. Well, and let's not forget that, you know, 9/11 is a date, an event that's known by the date.
GLENN: Why do you know Pearl Harbor's date?
STU: Because of that one
GLENN: Because of the one speech, December 7th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy.
GLENN: That's why you know it.
GLENN: I know July 4th.
PAT: You don't remember when MLK said, I have a dream on this 8/28? That one day?
GLENN: That one day. No, I don't.
STU: Right. That event is known by "I have a dream." It's the "I Have a Dream" speech.
GLENN: I didn't know the date.
STU: I didn't know the date, either. The date is not important. What he said is important. That's the important thing.
GLENN: It's really amazing to me, it is really, truly amazing how people are taking his dream now, Al Sharpton is taking his dream and moving his dream from white people and black people and people of all color getting along, judging somebody by the content of their character, which we are a million miles away from. White, black, all of us, we're a million miles away from. Are we better than we were in 1963? You're damn right we are. We're a lot better than we were. Are we perfect? No. Will we ever? No. Look at the history of the world. It's not the history of our country. Look at the history of our world. One of the things that is keeping us separate is an incorrect reading of history. You don't know the truth about who the bad guys were and who the good.
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