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GLENN: I want to go right to Joe Biden. Joe Biden says that moderates need not apply to the GOP.
CALLER: But the truth is that it's real tough for the Republican Party and really they kind of hung out a shingle, you know, no moderates need apply. It's and it's sort of spawns a, I don't know, a tone in politics that is not helpful.
PAT: Okay. What he was saying there, I guess is our level low? Apparently moderates need not apply to the Republican Party.
STU: Yeah. Because as you see in this over the past, say, 18 months has been devastating for the Republicans.
PAT: Yeah, yeah.
STU: You know, from where they were in 2008
GLENN: Hold on just a second. Hang on just a second. There's a new poll out that shows that Democrats have, I don't even know, a hate rating of, like, 70% and the Republicans have a hate rating of, like, 81%.
STU: Well, the Republicans have the largest lead in the generic ballot they've ever had in all recorded history.
GLENN: No, I understand that. I understand that. What it is is a very, it's a very subtle difference.
STU: Right. They are not in love with Republicans.
STU: Because they haven't proven they can do anything.
STU: But the bottom line is the idea that you are fighting on principle always strengthens your party. It makes you not a non, sort of undefined animal and that's important.
GLENN: It again goes back to what they caller said a little while ago. He was watching the debate between O'Donnell and Coons and they were having the debate last night and he said, this isn't about ideology. It is. It is about the Constitution and whether or not the American experiment as dreamed up by our founders is going to continue or not. It is about ideology. I believe the worst thing that we can do is to continue to spend. Your ideology teaches continue to spend more to get us out of this. The days of that being able to be true are over, long ago. They were over under George W. Bush.
STU: And that's why they want to talk about mice brains. That's why they want to talk about Christine O'Donnell in 1996 on MTV because they don't want to have that debate.
GLENN: They don't they say this isn't about ideology, but it is. It is Constitution versus Karl Marx.
PAT: This is from the party. This is from the guy whose party is in complete disarray from the American people. They are so separate from the American people, and they understand that. And so all of this is just a diversion. But they've seen the polls just like we have, that 56% of the American people think they are the ones who are extreme and only, like, 30% or something think the Republicans are extreme. We've seen poll after poll.
STU: Yeah. And I love the idea that he's sitting here feeling bad because the Republicans keep putting up these terrible candidates. If you look at this in reality, it took the Republicans basically twelve years to screw it up enough for everyone to not trust them. From 1994 to 2006. It's taking the Democrats four years. They were literally, after 2008, everyone was writing off the Republicans as a regional party. Do we not remember this?
PAT: Done for 50 years.
STU: Done for 50 years. We are the next election two years later and almost everyone is saying a massive move to the right, and is it going to be enough to be a huge move in the Senate to take it over is the question mark. I mean, that's really the line we're talking about: Will it be enough for the Senate, will it be enough for the House. We'll have a huge move in the House and it will be overwhelming there and yet Biden's very, very concerned for the future of the Republican Party. So idiotic.
PAT: They have to do this is another great sign. Instead of getting mad about this, we should be happy for this because
GLENN: You know what?
STU: Something to celebrate, absolutely.
GLENN: A, I could care less about anything that anybody says about the GOP. I couldn't care less. I couldn't. Could you? Could you care less?
PAT: Only in that that's the party where the conservatives come from.
STU: Yeah. I mean
PAT: That's the only reason I care about the Republican Party. If there are conservatives who share my values
PAT: I know. Well, that's the problem with the Republican Party. But when there's a conservative in the race, they're always Republican.
PAT: Or, you know, libertarian. But they've got no juice. So
STU: But I mean, the Republican Party
GLENN: I think they are about to.
STU: The Republican Party is what the people inside of it define it as. And the bottom line is if you start having a lot more Jim DeMints, the Republican Party isn't going to be a bad thing to us. It's going to be something that's great.
STU: Because you have some people standing there who are
GLENN: Yes and no.
GLENN: The Republican Party here, look. You know, Pat just brought up libertarians. I don't want the traditional Republican Party. I guess Ronald Reagan was the closest to what I would want from that. And that is a reduction in power. I don't want I mean, I'm a religious guy, but I don't want a group you know what really happened to the Christian Coalition? The Christian Coalition became about politics, and it really started to center in on Washington. That, that's the worst thing that could happen. The worst thing that could happen. We don't want big government to do anything for special interests. We want the special interests, you know, if you will, to dismantle government so they can go on and do their own thing themselves in their own community and in their own circle of influence. Not to have the government. And if the Republicans become a which it could very easily become. I mean, this is why you have to be very careful of progressivism. Because if it is misunderstood and it is so easily misunderstood and somebody rises to the top into the Republican Party and the good news is I don't see any of them. I don't see anybody out there that gets it that is a progressive on the right. I mean, do you think? What is it, Trent Lott, Lindsey Graham, John McCain? None of them are going to do it because none of them have the juice with the American people. There's nobody out there that has the juice with the American people that is a progressive on the left, that could really grab power. But if you could find a progressive I'm sorry, on the right that could grab power and was a Republican, extraordinarily dangerous.
STU: Oh, yeah.
GLENN: And that's why I don't like I just, I'm sick of the parties.
STU: I am sick of them, too. All I care about the ideas, I could care less about the R versus the D. If they you know, if the Democrats started putting people like Jim DeMint in office, I would be voting Democrat.
GLENN: What's the difference between an idea and ideology?
STU: I think they try to make ideology out as this, it's essentially a religion. It's something that you can't question. You're immovable, you never can consider anything outside of it, you're fighting for it blindly, blah, blah blah.
PAT: They're connected. Their ideas spring from your ideology.
GLENN: Right. It's what you believe in. I mean, we can come up with a million ideas if you are a free market person and you're a small government person, I can come up with idea after idea after idea. But I can come up with a whole bunch of ideas and if I'm in a system built by Marxists and giant government, none of my ideas matter.
GLENN: That's why when the president says, you know, he's lying when he says, I'll sit down and talk to anybody. No, you won't. I mean, unless it's, you know, Ahmadinejad. You won't sit down and talk with me, you won't sit down and talk with Fox News, you won't sit down with the leaders of the tea party and really listen. No. You might sit down and talk to them, not with them. You'll talk to them, but they won't make any progress because you are an ideologue. And so any idea that anyone else comes at you with is immediately rejected.
GLENN: Well, I got news for ya. I'm an ideologue, too, except my ideology is limited government that doesn't suppress anyone.
STU: Yeah, your ideology is limited government because you trust people.