Cass Sunstein says the conservative view of the Constitution requires a
GLENN: John Kerry may be right.
PAT: Uh huh.
GLENN: That Americans are just big, fat dumb dumb dummies and that's the only
reason why we oppose all of these things is because we're just too stupid to get
PAT: Well, at least one American, maybe.
GLENN: You think so?
PAT: Yeah. I think one American doesn't get why this Cass Sunstein quote is any
sort of story.
GLENN: I don't know who that American is.
PAT: You don't know who that American is?
GLENN: No, I don't.
PAT: It's interesting how dumb this American is. He doesn't even know this
American is him.
GLENN: Now, see, I
PAT: That's pretty dumb.
GLENN: I think this is very unfair of you.
GLENN: Play the audio here of Cass Sunstein.
PAT: Here is Cass Sunstein on the conservative view of the Constitution.
SUNSTEIN: Let me explain the division among the conservative legal thinkers.
Some conservative legal things like Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas is that
the Constitution means what it originally meant. That means that we should
understand the document by going through a sort of time machine and capturing
the public understanding of the public that ratified the document a century or
more than a century ago. So, that is a very distinctive approach which would
involve quite radical changes in our existing Constitutional understanding and
Justice Thomas is entirely clear on that.
GLENN: Okay. Why is this a problem?
PAT: Is that a problem so far?
STU: This is what you've been saying about progressivism for, what, 8 million
years it seems like. That is it crystalized.
PAT: Well, I don't know that this is a problem for us. We've been saying it the
whole time. Here's him saying it out of his own mouth.
GLENN: I told you this is what they say. This is what they believe. Cass
Sunstein just happens to be one of the real
PAT: He's honest.
GLENN: If you don't believe me, listen to Cass.
SUNSTEIN: Let me explain the division among conservative legal thinkers. Some
conservative legal thinkers like justice Scalia and Justice Thomas think that
the Constitution means what it originally meant.
GLENN: Can you imagine?
PAT: I mean, let that soak it for a second. Some conservative legal thinkers
actually believe that the Constitution means what it originally meant.
STU: Can you imagine saying that in public?
PAT: I can't.
STU: Knowing you're being recorded and uttering that sentence?
PAT: I can't. Right out in the open. There it is, we don't believe in the
original intent of the U.S. Constitution.
STU: And we've evolved past it. As you've been saying, Glenn, progressivism that
is exactly what we've been saying about progressivism for how long? How long
have you said that exact thing that they just believe we are going to evolve
past it and you've quoted all these people from back in the day but, of course,
they deny that is what they're doing until now.
GLENN: This is why the Constitution no longer matters.
GLENN: Because it doesn't matter what this is why they make fun of this is why
they make fun of the founding fathers. This is why they make fun of the you
know, the people like all of us that want to go and
PAT: Believe in the original intent.
GLENN: Right. Want to learn more about Washington, etc., etc. They are
irrelevant now. They're irrelevant. It is it's as relevant as, you know,
studying about George III to them. It makes no difference. What difference does
that make? It is not our history. It is why conservatives have such deep love
for the founding of this country, such deep love for the story of the American
Revolution and why progressives don't care at all. I mean, they don't it doesn't
matter to them. It's just another story in history.
PAT: I just have to amend my original statement. It's not because a big dummy.
It's just because you've been, I guess, saying this for so long that now that it
actually we have audio of it coming out of his own mouth and there it is, you
know, there's the proof positive, you move way beyond that and you I know.
GLENN: If this audience, if this audience doesn't get it at this point.
PAT: But you know what I like about it is this is something you can share with
STU: This is clear, concise
PAT: I've been telling you this for a year. Here it is, and then play this for
them. We need to get a it's already on
GLENN: This is Cass Sunstein, the regulatory czar. So, there is nothing
unconstitutional to him.
STU: Right. And he's also one of the smartest guys they have, too. This is just
some idiot blurting stuff out.
GLENN: This is the architect. This is the architect. This is the most dangerous
man in America
STU: And he explains, too, why there's no these arguments about healthcare not
being Constitutional don't relate to them.
GLENN: They don't care.
PAT: They don't care.
STU: It doesn't make any difference to them.