GLENN: John Kerry may be right.

PAT: Uh huh.

GLENN: That Americans are just big, fat dumb dumb dummies and that's the only

reason why we oppose all of these things is because we're just too stupid to get

it.

PAT: Well, at least one American, maybe.

GLENN: You think so?

PAT: Yeah. I think one American doesn't get why this Cass Sunstein quote is any

sort of story.

GLENN: I don't know who that American is.

PAT: You don't know who that American is?

GLENN: No, I don't.

PAT: It's interesting how dumb this American is. He doesn't even know this

American is him.

GLENN: Now, see, I

PAT: That's pretty dumb.

GLENN: I think this is very unfair of you.

PAT: Dumb.

GLENN: Play the audio here of Cass Sunstein.

PAT: Here is Cass Sunstein on the conservative view of the Constitution.

SUNSTEIN: Let me explain the division among the conservative legal thinkers.

Some conservative legal things like Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas is that

the Constitution means what it originally meant. That means that we should

understand the document by going through a sort of time machine and capturing

the public understanding of the public that ratified the document a century or

more than a century ago. So, that is a very distinctive approach which would

involve quite radical changes in our existing Constitutional understanding and

Justice Thomas is entirely clear on that.

GLENN: Okay. Why is this a problem?

PAT: Is that a problem so far?

STU: This is what you've been saying about progressivism for, what, 8 million

years it seems like. That is it crystalized.

PAT: Well, I don't know that this is a problem for us. We've been saying it the

whole time. Here's him saying it out of his own mouth.

GLENN: I told you this is what they say. This is what they believe. Cass

Sunstein just happens to be one of the real

PAT: He's honest.

GLENN: If you don't believe me, listen to Cass.

SUNSTEIN: Let me explain the division among conservative legal thinkers. Some

conservative legal thinkers like justice Scalia and Justice Thomas think that

the Constitution means what it originally meant.

PAT: Crazy.

GLENN: Can you imagine?

PAT: I mean, let that soak it for a second. Some conservative legal thinkers

actually believe that the Constitution means what it originally meant.

GLENN: (Laughter.)

PAT: What?!

STU: Can you imagine saying that in public?

PAT: I can't.

STU: Knowing you're being recorded and uttering that sentence?

PAT: I can't. Right out in the open. There it is, we don't believe in the

original intent of the U.S. Constitution.

STU: And we've evolved past it. As you've been saying, Glenn, progressivism that

is exactly what we've been saying about progressivism for how long? How long

have you said that exact thing that they just believe we are going to evolve

past it and you've quoted all these people from back in the day but, of course,

they deny that is what they're doing until now.

GLENN: This is why the Constitution no longer matters.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: Because it doesn't matter what this is why they make fun of this is why

they make fun of the founding fathers. This is why they make fun of the you

know, the people like all of us that want to go and

PAT: Believe in the original intent.

GLENN: Right. Want to learn more about Washington, etc., etc. They are

irrelevant now. They're irrelevant. It is it's as relevant as, you know,

studying about George III to them. It makes no difference. What difference does

that make? It is not our history. It is why conservatives have such deep love

for the founding of this country, such deep love for the story of the American

Revolution and why progressives don't care at all. I mean, they don't it doesn't

matter to them. It's just another story in history.

PAT: I just have to amend my original statement. It's not because a big dummy.

It's just because you've been, I guess, saying this for so long that now that it

actually we have audio of it coming out of his own mouth and there it is, you

know, there's the proof positive, you move way beyond that and you I know.

GLENN: If this audience, if this audience doesn't get it at this point.

PAT: But you know what I like about it is this is something you can share with

your friends.

STU: This is clear, concise

PAT: I've been telling you this for a year. Here it is, and then play this for

them. We need to get a it's already on

The Blaze.

GLENN: This is Cass Sunstein, the regulatory czar. So, there is nothing

unconstitutional to him.

STU: Right. And he's also one of the smartest guys they have, too. This is just

some idiot blurting stuff out.

GLENN: This is the architect. This is the architect. This is the most dangerous

man in America

STU: And he explains, too, why there's no these arguments about healthcare not

being Constitutional don't relate to them.

GLENN: They don't care.

PAT: They don't care.

STU: It doesn't make any difference to them.